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Postby Cedoria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:59 pm

National Socialist Korea wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
OOC: You're country is yours to do with as you see fit, but you are NOT free to steamroll everybody with god-modded and ridiculously over-powered forces within a few hours, with no opportunity for your opponents to respond. This is the point of cooperative RP, playing in relation to other people, you actually can't just do whatever you like, whatever you may believe.

Well, you can, but other people have a right to ignore you, as we are doing now IC.

OOC: While people know that, it's also useful to know that before 2011, nations RP with their account populations instead of RP populations. That's a knowledge you ought to respect; because while Mel might have been bad-mouthing very badly and openly, I had a feeling that you were disrespecting him first. Both of you, please, at least calm down and pay regards to each other's opinions.


OOC: Read my posts please, I never disrespected him, I simply asked him to edit his posts to stop the god-modding, as did others. I don't have any problem with him RP'ing on this thread if he wants to, nor I'm sure does anyone else.
His response was to bad-mouth repeatedly, be extremely rude to EVERYONE here and start trying to bully everybody around. Excuse me for not taking him very well when he does that.

I have no problem RP'ing with him, nor do I have an issue with listening to him, but if all he's going to do is insult and bad-mouth everyone and not speak with basic courtesy and common human decency, then I'm sorry, but I will not listen to that.
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Meldaria wrote:OOC: Bull fucking shit you've been polite. You're rude as hell. Who the fuck said it was cooperative RP? Is that your RP style? Certainly, that's not mine. I do with my forces whatever I wish to do and that's my choice. You don't have to do cooperative RP in order to not be godmodding. Not posting what others want you to post is not godmodding. You've severely misunderstood the nature of this forum. I won't leave. I don't have to change anything I write for you. You can ask all you want. It's not going to happen. That's not how RP works on Nationstates. Sorry, but you're dead wrong. It doesn't matter who came first. I'm not "bossing people around". My nation is threatening them with invasion if they don't comply with it's demands. I have every right to do that in an RP and I don't have to change it for you or anyone else. I control my nation. You control your's. You can respond however you like, however you will not control the actions of my country as that is not how one RPs on Nationstates. If you want to do a cooperative RP with someone go ahead. However, no one is in any way obligated to cooperative on the level of allowing you to critique and advise you on how your country should negotiate or operate. It doesn't matter who was here first. You can NOT void someone's actions, because you don't like the way their nation conducts it's diplomacy/military. That is NOT how it works. You are completely WRONG.



OOC: I think it's quite clear from basic RP guides that NS roleplay IS cooperative RP. It is about telling a story, and there are other people. If other people are around, you do need to cooperate with them to write a proper story. I do not have to respond to god-modding in-game, nor do you, you can RP anything you like, and I can ignore it if I like, as can you. That's why it's cooperative, otherwise nobody would ever be able to write anything properly because there are too many arguments. Like what's happening now.

I have NEVER sworn at you, I have NEVER said anything to you that could be considered anything less than firmly polite, considering the nature of the insults you've been flinging at me and others in just about every post, I have been incredibly polite and restrained.
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Postby Meldaria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:04 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Cedoria noob, if you don't like someone's post or the fact that they're invading you and have a larger and more powerful military than your own than sure you can ask them to edit their posts, but they DO NOT have to do what you want them to do. Their country is their's to do with as they please. You can't force someone to edit their post, because you don't like the fact that your allies have lost and you're now outnumbered. You can't void someone's post for not editing it to your satisfaction. Served noob.


OOC: You're country is yours to do with as you see fit, but you are NOT free to steamroll everybody with god-modded and ridiculously over-powered forces within a few hours, with no opportunity for your opponents to respond. This is the point of cooperative RP, playing in relation to other people, you actually can't just do whatever you like, whatever you may believe.

Well, you can, but other people have a right to ignore you, as we are doing now IC.

OOC: Listen up noob. I'm going to tell you this one last time. I'm going to try explaining this to you one last time. Reply to my actual statement. Don't simply disregard everything and repeat the same points that even been refuted completely already. It is NOT steamrolling everybody with godmodded and overpowered forces within a few hours. IT WAS NOT A FEW HOURS. IT WAS MEANT TO GO OVER A COURSE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YOU CAN RP WHAT YOUR FORCES DID TO PREPARE DURING THOSE WEEKS AS WELL. I DID GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. Only the ARABS responded. They are the ONLY ones I RPed COOPERATIVELY with them defeating their forces. I never said I defeated your forces Cedaria or anyone else's/ You may very well still be present in Maitea. The Arabs no longer are, and the Meldarian occupying forces have arrived. Simply because someone posts their actions over a course of a couple of weeks does not mean you can not respond with your own actions during tht period in preparation for the invasion. The Arabs are defeated. YOU ARE STILL THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO RETALIATE WHENEVER YOU LIKE. I DID NOT GODMODE. I DID NOT SAY I DEFEATED YOUR FORCES. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO VOID ANYTHING. I UNDERSTAND THAT! I AM WAITING FOR YOUR GOD DAMN RESPONSE TO THE INVASION AND DEFEAT OF THE ARABS YOU MAY POST WHATEVER EVENTS TRANSPIRED WHILE MY TROOPS WERE MOBILIZING/DEPLOYING AS WELL. YOU CANNOT SIMPLY IGNORE OTHER PLAYERS FOR NO REASON. I DID NOT GODMODE. THE ONLY PEOPLE I RPED DEFEATED DIIIIIIIIIDDD RESPAWN. You're wrong. You're WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOURE SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:12 pm

Meldaria wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
OOC: You're country is yours to do with as you see fit, but you are NOT free to steamroll everybody with god-modded and ridiculously over-powered forces within a few hours, with no opportunity for your opponents to respond. This is the point of cooperative RP, playing in relation to other people, you actually can't just do whatever you like, whatever you may believe.

Well, you can, but other people have a right to ignore you, as we are doing now IC.

OOC: Listen up noob. I'm going to tell you this one last time. I'm going to try explaining this to you one last time. Reply to my actual statement. Don't simply disregard everything and repeat the same points that even been refuted completely already. It is NOT steamrolling everybody with godmodded and overpowered forces within a few hours. IT WAS NOT A FEW HOURS. IT WAS MEANT TO GO OVER A COURSE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YOU CAN RP WHAT YOUR FORCES DID TO PREPARE DURING THOSE WEEKS AS WELL. I DID GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. Only the ARABS responded. They are the ONLY ones I RPed COOPERATIVELY with them defeating their forces. I never said I defeated your forces Cedaria or anyone else's/ You may very well still be present in Maitea. The Arabs no longer are, and the Meldarian occupying forces have arrived. Simply because someone posts their actions over a course of a couple of weeks does not mean you can not respond with your own actions during tht period in preparation for the invasion. The Arabs are defeated. YOU ARE STILL THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO RETALIATE WHENEVER YOU LIKE. I DID NOT GODMODE. I DID NOT SAY I DEFEATED YOUR FORCES. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO VOID ANYTHING. I UNDERSTAND THAT! I AM WAITING FOR YOUR GOD DAMN RESPONSE TO THE INVASION AND DEFEAT OF THE ARABS YOU MAY POST WHATEVER EVENTS TRANSPIRED WHILE MY TROOPS WERE MOBILIZING/DEPLOYING AS WELL. YOU CANNOT SIMPLY IGNORE OTHER PLAYERS FOR NO REASON. I DID NOT GODMODE. THE ONLY PEOPLE I RPED DEFEATED DIIIIIIIIIDDD RESPAWN. You're wrong. You're WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOURE SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OOC: Several things here.
1: Maitea is landlocked, your troops would have to come by air, or be deployed in a neighbouring nation first, then march over.
2: You have explicitly stated in your IC posts that Cedorian forces in Maitea have been defeated and Maitea is now occupied by Meldaria, done without my response, and OP's is god modding
3: Your forces could not possibly deploy so many forces at once in that time, complete MT number-wanking
4: You have three different nations involved, which is considered multi-ing, and is frowned upon, if not actually banned. I would ask you to remove them too.
4: You have been consistently rude and disrespectful to everyone here on this thread. Flinging insults at me, and others, when we have tried to speak with you. Had you perhaps been polite and helpful in the beginning rather than flinging disgusting language at me and would probably have been able to resolve this issue, and I would have been more inclined to listen to you and respond politely. Your response to my alleged 'rudeness' was completely disproportionate, I apologise if I can across as rude, nothing I said was intended to be anything more than polite and respectful.
I was writing late at night, probably I sounded a bit abrasive as a result. However, it is perfectly reasonable to ask you to edit those god-modded posts.
If these above things can be fixed, I'd be happy to RP with you.
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Postby Bohemia Minor » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:28 pm

Meldaria wrote:OOC: Cedoria noob, if you don't like someone's post or the fact that they're invading you and have a larger and more powerful military than your own than sure you can ask them to edit their posts, but they DO NOT have to do what you want them to do. Their country is their's to do with as they please. You can't force someone to edit their post, because you don't like the fact that your allies have lost and you're now outnumbered. You can't void someone's post for not editing it to your satisfaction. Served noob.

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How bout this: 90000000000000 trillion nukes trash the earth, haha noobs. Now that isn't fun, but then again I'm not supposed to be here. Just saying.
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Postby Meldaria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:35 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Listen up noob. I'm going to tell you this one last time. I'm going to try explaining this to you one last time. Reply to my actual statement. Don't simply disregard everything and repeat the same points that even been refuted completely already. It is NOT steamrolling everybody with godmodded and overpowered forces within a few hours. IT WAS NOT A FEW HOURS. IT WAS MEANT TO GO OVER A COURSE OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YOU CAN RP WHAT YOUR FORCES DID TO PREPARE DURING THOSE WEEKS AS WELL. I DID GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. Only the ARABS responded. They are the ONLY ones I RPed COOPERATIVELY with them defeating their forces. I never said I defeated your forces Cedaria or anyone else's/ You may very well still be present in Maitea. The Arabs no longer are, and the Meldarian occupying forces have arrived. Simply because someone posts their actions over a course of a couple of weeks does not mean you can not respond with your own actions during tht period in preparation for the invasion. The Arabs are defeated. YOU ARE STILL THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO RETALIATE WHENEVER YOU LIKE. I DID NOT GODMODE. I DID NOT SAY I DEFEATED YOUR FORCES. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO VOID ANYTHING. I UNDERSTAND THAT! I AM WAITING FOR YOUR GOD DAMN RESPONSE TO THE INVASION AND DEFEAT OF THE ARABS YOU MAY POST WHATEVER EVENTS TRANSPIRED WHILE MY TROOPS WERE MOBILIZING/DEPLOYING AS WELL. YOU CANNOT SIMPLY IGNORE OTHER PLAYERS FOR NO REASON. I DID NOT GODMODE. THE ONLY PEOPLE I RPED DEFEATED DIIIIIIIIIDDD RESPAWN. You're wrong. You're WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOURE SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OOC: Several things here.
1: Maitea is landlocked, your troops would have to come by air, or be deployed in a neighbouring nation first, then march over.
2: You have explicitly stated in your IC posts that Cedorian forces in Maitea have been defeated and Maitea is now occupied by Meldaria, done without my response, and OP's is god modding
3: Your forces could not possibly deploy so many forces at once in that time, complete MT number-wanking
4: You have three different nations involved, which is considered multi-ing, and is frowned upon, if not actually banned. I would ask you to remove them too.
4: You have been consistently rude and disrespectful to everyone here on this thread. Flinging insults at me, and others, when we have tried to speak with you. Had you perhaps been polite and helpful in the beginning rather than flinging disgusting language at me and would probably have been able to resolve this issue, and I would have been more inclined to listen to you and respond politely. Your response to my alleged 'rudeness' was completely disproportionate, I apologise if I can across as rude, nothing I said was intended to be anything more than polite and respectful.
I was writing late at night, probably I sounded a bit abrasive as a result. However, it is perfectly reasonable to ask you to edit those god-modded posts.
If these above things can be fixed, I'd be happy to RP with you.


Respectful Disagreements:

1. So let's say they came through a neighboring nation first. With no actual nation that neighbors them involved that makes little difference. We can assume they passed through that territory. They came by sea. Air and infantry were deployed from there.

2. I never said I defeated you. I said I defeated the Arabs and got the Brillnish to withdraw forces. This leaves only you left I believe. I did not mean to imply I had defeated your forces. I'm well aware of what godmodding is and would never do it. When I say Maitea is occupied I do not mean the entire territory. If I explicitly stated that I had freed all of Maitea from any foreign militaries than this is misconception generated by a mistake I may have made in not realizing your forces were occupying it. Let's say this. Instead of going back and editing things and backtracking the RP let's just say this. Meldaria is occupying Maitea, but not the entire thing. It is split between Cedorian and Meldarian Forces. Can you just respond to that scenario where your allies are gone. Cedaria still occupies part of Maitea, and Meldarian Forces are advancing on you. I never meant to convey that I had godmodded and destroyed your forces without letting you respond. That would be very stupid. I have taken the land occupied by Brillnish and Arab Forces. We are closing in on your territories.

3. Not MT number wanking. Take into consideration. My country has 7,000,000,000 people. I easily have the manpower to deploy tens of thousands of soldiers at one time and send multiple waves of fleets to reinforce them and bring in hundreds of thousands of soldiers over the course of several months. Preparing 5,000,000 is an overkill strategy used so that we can constantly reinforce the war effort and bring in as many troops as we need to ensure victory. Tens of thousands of soldiers are in Maitea now. They will number in the hundreds of thousands in a couple months. Can you RP on the premise?

4. Those nations are friends of mine part of the Fascist Imperialist Union. They do not get on often. If you don't wish them to play then fine. I can accept that.

5. Okay I'm sorry if I insulted you. I felt insulted myself. I never godmodded or intentionally godmodded. I wasn't aware Cedarian Forces were present. If they are we can take off from the point at which Arab forces were defeated and Brillnish forces were withdrawn. The conflict is now between Meldaria and Cedaria, and any other forces which I was unaware of that may be present.
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Postby Bohemia Minor » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:46 pm

Meldaria wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
OOC: Several things here.
1: Maitea is landlocked, your troops would have to come by air, or be deployed in a neighbouring nation first, then march over.
2: You have explicitly stated in your IC posts that Cedorian forces in Maitea have been defeated and Maitea is now occupied by Meldaria, done without my response, and OP's is god modding
3: Your forces could not possibly deploy so many forces at once in that time, complete MT number-wanking
4: You have three different nations involved, which is considered multi-ing, and is frowned upon, if not actually banned. I would ask you to remove them too.
4: You have been consistently rude and disrespectful to everyone here on this thread. Flinging insults at me, and others, when we have tried to speak with you. Had you perhaps been polite and helpful in the beginning rather than flinging disgusting language at me and would probably have been able to resolve this issue, and I would have been more inclined to listen to you and respond politely. Your response to my alleged 'rudeness' was completely disproportionate, I apologise if I can across as rude, nothing I said was intended to be anything more than polite and respectful.
I was writing late at night, probably I sounded a bit abrasive as a result. However, it is perfectly reasonable to ask you to edit those god-modded posts.
If these above things can be fixed, I'd be happy to RP with you.


Respectful Disagreements:

1. So let's say they came through a neighboring nation first. With no actual nation that neighbors them involved that makes little difference. We can assume they passed through that territory. They came by sea. Air and infantry were deployed from there.

2. I never said I defeated you. I said I defeated the Arabs and got the Brillnish to withdraw forces. This leaves only you left I believe. I did not mean to imply I had defeated your forces. I'm well aware of what godmodding is and would never do it. When I say Maitea is occupied I do not mean the entire territory. If I explicitly stated that I had freed all of Maitea from any foreign militaries than this is misconception generated by a mistake I may have made in not realizing your forces were occupying it. Let's say this. Instead of going back and editing things and backtracking the RP let's just say this. Meldaria is occupying Maitea, but not the entire thing. It is split between Cedorian and Meldarian Forces. Can you just respond to that scenario where your allies are gone. Cedaria still occupies part of Maitea, and Meldarian Forces are advancing on you. I never meant to convey that I had godmodded and destroyed your forces without letting you respond. That would be very stupid. I have taken the land occupied by Brillnish and Arab Forces. We are closing in on your territories.

3. Not MT number wanking. Take into consideration. My country has 7,000,000,000 people. I easily have the manpower to deploy tens of thousands of soldiers at one time and send multiple waves of fleets to reinforce them and bring in hundreds of thousands of soldiers over the course of several months. Preparing 5,000,000 is an overkill strategy used so that we can constantly reinforce the war effort and bring in as many troops as we need to ensure victory. Tens of thousands of soldiers are in Maitea now. They will number in the hundreds of thousands in a couple months. Can you RP on the premise?

4. Those nations are friends of mine part of the Fascist Imperialist Union. They do not get on often. If you don't wish them to play then fine. I can accept that.

5. Okay I'm sorry if I insulted you. I felt insulted myself. I never godmodded or intentionally godmodded. I wasn't aware Cedarian Forces were present. If they are we can take off from the point at which Arab forces were defeated and Brillnish forces were withdrawn. The conflict is now between Meldaria and Cedaria, and any other forces which I was unaware of that may be present.

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Having the entire worlds population atm is not number wanking?
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Postby Meldaria » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:54 pm

Bohemia Minor wrote:
Meldaria wrote:
Respectful Disagreements:

1. So let's say they came through a neighboring nation first. With no actual nation that neighbors them involved that makes little difference. We can assume they passed through that territory. They came by sea. Air and infantry were deployed from there.

2. I never said I defeated you. I said I defeated the Arabs and got the Brillnish to withdraw forces. This leaves only you left I believe. I did not mean to imply I had defeated your forces. I'm well aware of what godmodding is and would never do it. When I say Maitea is occupied I do not mean the entire territory. If I explicitly stated that I had freed all of Maitea from any foreign militaries than this is misconception generated by a mistake I may have made in not realizing your forces were occupying it. Let's say this. Instead of going back and editing things and backtracking the RP let's just say this. Meldaria is occupying Maitea, but not the entire thing. It is split between Cedorian and Meldarian Forces. Can you just respond to that scenario where your allies are gone. Cedaria still occupies part of Maitea, and Meldarian Forces are advancing on you. I never meant to convey that I had godmodded and destroyed your forces without letting you respond. That would be very stupid. I have taken the land occupied by Brillnish and Arab Forces. We are closing in on your territories.

3. Not MT number wanking. Take into consideration. My country has 7,000,000,000 people. I easily have the manpower to deploy tens of thousands of soldiers at one time and send multiple waves of fleets to reinforce them and bring in hundreds of thousands of soldiers over the course of several months. Preparing 5,000,000 is an overkill strategy used so that we can constantly reinforce the war effort and bring in as many troops as we need to ensure victory. Tens of thousands of soldiers are in Maitea now. They will number in the hundreds of thousands in a couple months. Can you RP on the premise?

4. Those nations are friends of mine part of the Fascist Imperialist Union. They do not get on often. If you don't wish them to play then fine. I can accept that.

5. Okay I'm sorry if I insulted you. I felt insulted myself. I never godmodded or intentionally godmodded. I wasn't aware Cedarian Forces were present. If they are we can take off from the point at which Arab forces were defeated and Brillnish forces were withdrawn. The conflict is now between Meldaria and Cedaria, and any other forces which I was unaware of that may be present.

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Having the entire worlds population atm is not number wanking?

This is not the real world. This is a completely alternate world. None of these nations are real places. They exist in the world of Nationstates. This is not the entire world's population in Nationstates.
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Postby Bohemia Minor » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:56 pm

Oh right I forgot this isn't a completely artificially constructed role play.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:02 am

Meldaria wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
OOC: Several things here.
1: Maitea is landlocked, your troops would have to come by air, or be deployed in a neighbouring nation first, then march over.
2: You have explicitly stated in your IC posts that Cedorian forces in Maitea have been defeated and Maitea is now occupied by Meldaria, done without my response, and OP's is god modding
3: Your forces could not possibly deploy so many forces at once in that time, complete MT number-wanking
4: You have three different nations involved, which is considered multi-ing, and is frowned upon, if not actually banned. I would ask you to remove them too.
4: You have been consistently rude and disrespectful to everyone here on this thread. Flinging insults at me, and others, when we have tried to speak with you. Had you perhaps been polite and helpful in the beginning rather than flinging disgusting language at me and would probably have been able to resolve this issue, and I would have been more inclined to listen to you and respond politely. Your response to my alleged 'rudeness' was completely disproportionate, I apologise if I can across as rude, nothing I said was intended to be anything more than polite and respectful.
I was writing late at night, probably I sounded a bit abrasive as a result. However, it is perfectly reasonable to ask you to edit those god-modded posts.
If these above things can be fixed, I'd be happy to RP with you.


Respectful Disagreements:

1. So let's say they came through a neighboring nation first. With no actual nation that neighbors them involved that makes little difference. We can assume they passed through that territory. They came by sea. Air and infantry were deployed from there.

2. I never said I defeated you. I said I defeated the Arabs and got the Brillnish to withdraw forces. This leaves only you left I believe. I did not mean to imply I had defeated your forces. I'm well aware of what godmodding is and would never do it. When I say Maitea is occupied I do not mean the entire territory. If I explicitly stated that I had freed all of Maitea from any foreign militaries than this is misconception generated by a mistake I may have made in not realizing your forces were occupying it. Let's say this. Instead of going back and editing things and backtracking the RP let's just say this. Meldaria is occupying Maitea, but not the entire thing. It is split between Cedorian and Meldarian Forces. Can you just respond to that scenario where your allies are gone. Cedaria still occupies part of Maitea, and Meldarian Forces are advancing on you. I never meant to convey that I had godmodded and destroyed your forces without letting you respond. That would be very stupid. I have taken the land occupied by Brillnish and Arab Forces. We are closing in on your territories.

3. Not MT number wanking. Take into consideration. My country has 7,000,000,000 people. I easily have the manpower to deploy tens of thousands of soldiers at one time and send multiple waves of fleets to reinforce them and bring in hundreds of thousands of soldiers over the course of several months. Preparing 5,000,000 is an overkill strategy used so that we can constantly reinforce the war effort and bring in as many troops as we need to ensure victory. Tens of thousands of soldiers are in Maitea now. They will number in the hundreds of thousands in a couple months. Can you RP on the premise?

4. Those nations are friends of mine part of the Fascist Imperialist Union. They do not get on often. If you don't wish them to play then fine. I can accept that.

5. Okay I'm sorry if I insulted you. I felt insulted myself. I never godmodded or intentionally godmodded. I wasn't aware Cedarian Forces were present. If they are we can take off from the point at which Arab forces were defeated and Brillnish forces were withdrawn. The conflict is now between Meldaria and Cedaria, and any other forces which I was unaware of that may be present.


OOX: It is explicitly stated in a previous post that Maitea is landlocked, so please edit out the sea fleets and references to Maitea's coastline.
You have not occupied Maitean territory yet, Arab, Brillnian and Cedorian forces are all occupying Maitea, along with the Maitean Communist Liberation Army. So far, you have only Rp'ed engaging with Arab forces, despite the fact that they are currently with Cedorian and Brillnian forces. You haven't beaten Brillnian forces yet. Arab and Brillnian forces only control territory that the Cedorians also control, the MCLA rules the rest, along with the Maitean Government.

If you fix these bits up, then fine. I could RP with those compromise numbers you have referenced. However, at the moment we are waiting for OP to return, once he posts, then feel free to post your actions, but we should wait for him first.
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Postby Meldaria » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:05 am

OOC: I'm not editing anything that's just pointless. My sea fleets are still nearby. Just say they landed at a neighboring nation and deployed from there. They are fast encroaching the Maitean Border. Take it from there.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:11 am

Meldaria wrote:OOC: I'm not editing anything that's just pointless. My sea fleets are still nearby. Just say they landed at a neighboring nation and deployed from there. They are fast encroaching the Maitean Border. Take it from there.

OOC: How is editing god-modded posts pointless? Which neighbouring nation did they land in? Which Maitean border are they approaching from?
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Postby National Socialist Korea » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:14 am

Cedoria wrote:
Meldaria wrote:OOC: I'm not editing anything that's just pointless. My sea fleets are still nearby. Just say they landed at a neighboring nation and deployed from there. They are fast encroaching the Maitean Border. Take it from there.

OOC: How is editing god-modded posts pointless? Which neighbouring nation did they land in? Which Maitean border are they approaching from?

OOC: Now you're being unreasonable.

That's not god-modding. There's only the requirement of saying "landing in a neighboring nation" to start attacking another one. I suggest you fast agree with that (other than forcing him to say specifically where did he land), otherwise you're only contributing to this RP's quick downfall and its getting filled to the brim with our pointless OOC arguments.

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Postby Cedoria » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:17 am

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Cedoria wrote:OOC: How is editing god-modded posts pointless? Which neighbouring nation did they land in? Which Maitean border are they approaching from?

OOC: Now you're being unreasonable.

That's not god-modding. There's only the requirement of saying "landing in a neighboring nation" to start attacking another one. I suggest you fast agree with that (other than forcing him to say specifically where did he land), otherwise you're only contributing to this RP's quick downfall and its getting filled to the brim with our pointless OOC arguments.

OOC: I didn't disagree with him, just wanted more details. I'm happy with those numbers and if he lands in a neighbouring nation. However, I suggest we wait for OP before we post.
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Meldarian Territories wrote:You guys can't just void people, because they're bringing in massive numbers of soldiers. People who have had a nation for 5 years, and have 7 billion people can mobilize tens of thousands of soldiers in a pretty short amount of time as well as deploy hundreds of thousands in a few months. They have the strength to do so, because they have the manpower.
Meldaria wrote:You can't void someone just because you don't like the fact that they're disrupting your stupid fucking peace treaty. That's RP. If you don't like it then get the fuck out.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Bull fucking shit you've been polite. You're rude as hell. Who the fuck said it was cooperative RP? Is that your RP style? Certainly, that's not mine. I do with my forces whatever I wish to do and that's my choice. You don't have to do cooperative RP in order to not be godmodding. Not posting what others want you to post is not godmodding. You've severely misunderstood the nature of this forum. I won't leave. I don't have to change anything I write for you. You can ask all you want. It's not going to happen. That's not how RP works on Nationstates. Sorry, but you're dead wrong. It doesn't matter who came first. I'm not "bossing people around". My nation is threatening them with invasion if they don't comply with it's demands. I have every right to do that in an RP and I don't have to change it for you or anyone else. I control my nation. You control your's. You can respond however you like, however you will not control the actions of my country as that is not how one RPs on Nationstates. If you want to do a cooperative RP with someone go ahead. However, no one is in any way obligated to cooperative on the level of allowing you to critique and advise you on how your country should negotiate or operate. It doesn't matter who was here first. You can NOT void someone's actions, because you don't like the way their nation conducts it's diplomacy/military. That is NOT how it works. You are completely WRONG.
Meldaria wrote:YOU CANNOT SIMPLY IGNORE OTHER PLAYERS FOR NO REASON. I DID NOT GODMODE. THE ONLY PEOPLE I RPED DEFEATED DIIIIIIIIIDDD RESPAWN. You're wrong. You're WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOURE SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, yes, they can refuse to play with you, and yes, all forum roleplay is cooperative by default, since no other player is obligated to play with you if they don't want to. In fact, if Maitea, as the thread OP, decided to kick you out of the thread entirely, you are obligated to immediately stop posting, and moderators can step in to enforce that if asked. If Maitea requested your posts be removed from their thread entirely for any reason, or even no reason beyond not liking your posts, we would oblige. While it can be considered poor form to retcon or fire Ignore Cannons when a war is not going someone's way, no player is obligated to play with another player if they don't want to.

Nation age is no indicator of roleplaying skill, capability, or that they deserve the least shred of deference from younger accounts. There have been users on this site who have played for upwards of a decade and remained lousy RPers the entirety of it. There have been users who on day 1 managed to organize and participate in really well-executed RPs. There are plenty of users who may have started off rough, but found their niche and circle of like-minded players that have fun RPing together. Your 5-year-old nation is still a newbie compared to those of us from the wild heyday of 2003. You are not a roleplaying god who gets to barge into other players' threads and run roughshod over them, using your population or age as some sort of bludgeon for why they have to tolerate your attitude. They don't. You are not a roleplaying Mentor, who has special recognition for being helpful and someone with the patience and willingness to help advise less-experienced players. You are just a player, like every single other of the 110,000+ players on this site.

Meldaria wrote: You stupid fucking noob.
Meldaria wrote:Cry me a fucking river noob.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: HEY FUCKING NOOB LEARN HOW THE FUCK TO FUCKING READ.

1. I. DID. NOT. RP. DESTROYING. YOUR. FORCES. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK MOTHERFUCKING SKULL 500 POST FUCKING NOOB. GET THE FUCKING PICTURE.

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3. THE FACT THAT I DID NOT SPECIFY CASUALTIES DOES NOT MEAN I DID NOT HAVE ANY. I AM NOT FUCKING GODMODDING STUPID ASS FUCKING NOOB SHUT YOUR STUPID FUCKING MOUTH. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

4. DO NOT, motherfucking tell me to read the fucking stickies. You should instead shut the fuck up and stop saying idiotic bullshit that is simply not true. I have been on Nationstates for five motherfucking years and have almost 3000 fucking posts. I know hot to RP. I know what godmodding is. The fact that you are illiterate and can't understand the nature of my fucking posts does not mean I am godmodding. It just means you're a fucking moron stupid shit fucking retard.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: FUCKTARD, it is not godmodding to invade anyone who goes against you. It is fucking RP. You stupid fucking noobs don't what what in the fuck you're talking about. I can take over whatever the fuck I want it's my country I'll RP it how I see fit. Now shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Listen up shithead. Your nation is less than a year old. Mine is 5 years old. I have 5 times as many posts as you. You don't KNOW SHIT. SHUT THE FUCK UP WORTHLESS FUCKING RETARDED STUPID SACK OF SHIT. You can suck my fucking dick you illiterate sack of fucking shit. Go fuck yourself. You can't void someone because you don't want to be invaded. So shut the fuck up you cocksucking fucking idiot.
Meldaria";p="22269846"]You don't even speak fucking English. MY NATION HAS SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE SO YES I HAVE A BIG MILITARY GET THE FUCK OVER IT, FUCKING MORON.[/quote][quote="Meldaria wrote:OOC: Listen noob I don't have to edit my posts for god damn anyone. I can RP however I want. If you don't want to RP then leave the thread. I'm not editing my posts. I control my country. I will invade who I wish. As this is my country to do with as I please.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Noobs who think they know more than one of the most experienced Roleplayers in the game infuriate me. Not many nations from the era of NationStates I was founded in still exist. I was once a noob yes. But you ignore everything I tell you. You say it's not possible to have millions of soldiers there already. You can't properly read English. I NEVER FUCKING SAID I had millions of soldiers in Maitea already. I said I am PREPARING, MOTHERFUCKING PREPARING, FUCKING PREPARING them. I said 10s of thousands had arrived and hundreds of thousands will arrive soon. You refuse to respond to this point being made and instead repeat the same bullshit statement "You cant have millions. You cant have millions." Just stop fucking saying that shit you're a FUCKING TROLL.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Cedoria noob, if you don't like someone's post or the fact that they're invading you and have a larger and more powerful military than your own than sure you can ask them to edit their posts, but they DO NOT have to do what you want them to do. Their country is their's to do with as they please. You can't force someone to edit their post, because you don't like the fact that your allies have lost and you're now outnumbered. You can't void someone's post for not editing it to your satisfaction. Served noob.
Meldaria wrote:OOC: Listen up noob.
For lack of a more articulate reaction: Holy fuckballs, that is such a clusterfuck of massive, blatant, repeated and persistent bunch of exceptionally nasty flaming and outright harassment that it would get somebody with a clean record a day off to calm down.

And you have anything but a clean record. Since 2010, you've had several official warnings, a slew of various unofficial/knock-it-offs, and somehow only a single forumban likely owed to length of time between warnings. And that's without even getting into the sea of red text I see on your nation for gameside violations. And looking back on those prior warnings, you have a history of flying off the handle on people you disagree with, particularly those who have a different idea of roleplaying compared to yours, indicating that this... outburst... is hardly a unique one-off error of judgment. It becomes part of a pattern of problem behavior, a pattern of behavior that has not improved in five years despite prior warnings, bans, and so on. Meaning that those prior enforcement behaviors have failed to impress on you that this site has rules that you are obligated to follow if you wish to participate here. Which means we need to step up the response in hopes that a more severe punishment will succeed where warnings and bans have failed.

*** Meldaria, DEAT for flaming. *** I'll be adding a notation about this to your puppets Albana Island and Meldarian Territories, so that my colleagues will know you have an extensive history if you carry on with such behavior with those puppets.

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Postby Meldarian Territories » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:44 am

OOC: And when was my last warning almighty morbidly obese shithead 40 year old woman? You fucking delete my fucking nation because I've been warned for flaming before, but haven't been warned in like 3 years? You're a fucking idiot. Go kill yourself bitch,
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:24 am

Meldarian Territories wrote:OOC: And when was my last warning almighty morbidly obese shithead 40 year old woman? You fucking delete my fucking nation because I've been warned for flaming before, but haven't been warned in like 3 years? You're a fucking idiot. Go kill yourself bitch,


OOC: Enough please, you've been deleted, take your bad language and flaming somewhere else.

In any case, thanks to Reploid for dealing with this.
I'm not sure whether or not Maitea is coming back, but if he is, I think we should continue this thread from where it was before we were interrupted, we were at the signing of the peace treaty.
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Postby The Bosakian Sultanate » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:20 pm

Ooc: So, Arab what's-its-name declared war on me.... can he at least clean up his troops before invading me? I don't want my land getting dirty. I fought very hard for those lands!
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Postby Alorixia » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:31 am

OOC:Huh..so this is what happens when I dissapear..didn't even get an official post in other than that they were on the way and then I had several problems with my phone xD.
Anyway, funny how he thinks swearing at a mod is gonna help anything. It's utterly hilarious in fact.
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Postby Maitea » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:49 pm

After long periods of thinking and planning, Esser has decided to please the general public by making agreements with the Cedorian government to transform it into a communist nation, as the rebels have caused many citizens to believe in it, and keeping the current, corrupt government would simply cause more fighting and start more civil wars.
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Postby Arab Jamahiriyahs » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:09 am

The Bosakian Sultanate wrote:Ooc: So, Arab what's-its-name declared war on me.... can he at least clean up his troops before invading me? I don't want my land getting dirty. I fought very hard for those lands!

Already withdrawn. Undergoing civil war.
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:34 pm

Maitea wrote:After long periods of thinking and planning, Esser has decided to please the general public by making agreements with the Cedorian government to transform it into a communist nation, as the rebels have caused many citizens to believe in it, and keeping the current, corrupt government would simply cause more fighting and start more civil wars.


The People's Republic of Cedoria is pleased by General Esser's decision to sign the peace treaty we have offered. Most troops of the People's Revolutionary Army have now withdrawn back to Cedoria, only those necessary to help supervise the new Maitean elections are remaining.

The MCLA has transformed into the Communist Party of Maitea, and is contesting the elections. Preliminary opinion polls show an overwhelming victory for the Communists is predicted, as Esser's association with both former President Weserburg and his apparent unwillingness to make socio-economic reforms taints him in the eyes of the Maitean people/
Chairman Vallance Vallen issued a public announcement, stating that if Maitea's elected government is Communist, he is willing to offer them a mutual economic partnership involving good prices on Cedorian-Maitean bilateral exports. He has also indicated his willingness to form a mutual defensive military alliance between the two states, where Cedoria and Maitea will pledge to come to each other's aid during times of emergency. He has also offered the Maiteans a small contingent from the People's Revolutionary Army to remain in Maitea to act as military advisors, helping to train and advise the Maitean Liberation Army following their victory in the civil war, and has also arranged for favourable prices on Cedorian arms exports.

Comrade Snowball has accepted all of these offers, indicating that it is likely Cedoria and Maitea will be allies as soon as the elections are over.

The war is over, now it only remains to be seen what kind of peace will emerge.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:47 am

With the overwhelming victory of the Communist Party of Maitea, the formal peace treaty is signed. Cedoria and Maitea are again at peace, and committed to the mutually shared goal of socialism and Communism. With allied governments in place, the people of Maitea no longer suffer, and Cedoria removes the threat from an enemy regime on it's border region, and also creates an ideologically friendly government, over which they will exercise considerable influence.

The End

OOC: Thanks to all those who participated, best RP I've been in for a long time. Good stuff everyone.
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