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Second Dhechian War (OCC)

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Nicaro
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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:42 am

Holy Empire of Moltavia wrote:Can this be clarified, have I done anything wrong or excessively godmodded? Nicaro seems to believe I have and I believe he has.

The points in question for Moltavia
1. My 9th fleet warping? Over three days and four posts I launched it
2. Multi spectral camouflage makes you invisible, Nicaro believes I can't see his rebels

The points for Nicaro
1. Launching 40,000 men through a para drop in modern times.
2. Moving over 5000 troops instantly
3. Teleporting chemical weapons
4. Launching 3000 missiles instantaneously

Can these be resolved


1. I had a huge umbrella, and over land I passed primarily threw allied AA. I even still took like 25% casualties /from dropping them alone/. I have lost so very many aircraft in like two-three hours.
2. Wut?
3. Already talked about this.
4. I have over 100 ships and well more then that in aircraft.

You sent your fleet, ICly, after the second part of Operation Michelangelo. I quoted you in TG, I believe it's his first post on page 6.

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Postby Holy Empire of Moltavia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:45 am

On the 18th they were committed, on the 19th they left on the 21st they arrived and on the 22nd we launched a strike against you. That is fair

That's a little rich 100 ships is a bit of a wank

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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:02 am

Holy Empire of Moltavia wrote:On the 18th they were committed, on the 19th they left on the 21st they arrived and on the 22nd we launched a strike against you. That is fair

That's a little rich 100 ships is a bit of a wank


As I've said repeatedly, did not think this conflict was over a 2 million person country (thankfully that's been increase)

And OOCly you did it the 18th.

If you use that logic my second fleet would have arrived, I would have had like two weeks to train militiamen and regular soldiers, to air drop supplies, to transfer more aircraft, to have an immense amount of variables change.

There is an IC time flow, and an OOC time flow.

EDIT:

Oh yea, and of those 100 ships I'm down to less then 60 and down two carriers in about 8 hours (the action was 3-4, really). So yea, I don't think it's a wank.
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Postby Holy Empire of Moltavia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:59 am

I know Tu-22Ms are fast but I didn't know they were fast enough to warp from the fatherland

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Postby Lord Sumguy » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:55 am

Alright, so since you all seem to be operating on a different IC timescale from me, when would you say that the Order's humanitarian civilian fleet should arrive on the dhechnian coast?

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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:36 am

Holy Empire of Moltavia wrote:I know Tu-22Ms are fast but I didn't know they were fast enough to warp from the fatherland


They just fly over, it's much faster but they have to go in spread out segments. It's been at least five hours for them to transit. Worst case, honestly, I have more then enough Tu-22M originally assigned to Dhechnia to carry out the mission.

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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:38 am

Lord Sumguy wrote:Alright, so since you all seem to be operating on a different IC timescale from me, when would you say that the Order's humanitarian civilian fleet should arrive on the dhechnian coast?


I don't mind time skipping a week, but I'd need to keep the IC time flow the same with Emmeria and Moltavia until those engagements were finished.

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Postby Emmerian Republic » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:18 am

Whose winning the battle of Tonzy
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Postby New Roma Republic » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:40 pm

Frankly, I have no idea what the hell is going. I have been busy irl recently, so I haven't been up to speed. I think the Gas attack happed. If it did, the just have all deployed troops be dead.
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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:17 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:Frankly, I have no idea what the hell is going. I have been busy irl recently, so I haven't been up to speed. I think the Gas attack happed. If it did, the just have all deployed troops be dead.


Okay, well even if you don't want to participate in the peace because of IRL do you want me to ICly return the corpses for intern or you don't care?

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Postby Nicaro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:20 pm

Emmerian Republic wrote:Whose winning the battle of Tonzy


It's odd.

Roma's army had melted away, the Valduan army is on the beaches I believe and I don't know if they surrendered, I'm ignoring the 9th fleet, because there's no way it deployed that fast.

Moltavia's stranded men, magically, are communicating when I'm focusing *all* of my jamming capabilities on that one thing. Which is just more bull shit, imo.

The only fleet I am facing is yours, which I have now finally spotted. I will be engaging you in my next turn against you, since you just tried to hit me. How big is your fleet btw?

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Postby Valdiu » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:08 pm

They withdrew a looooong time ago.
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Postby Holy Empire of Moltavia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:40 pm

Nicaro you have consistently demonstrated you have no understanding of modern warfare whatsoever. You can jam me all you want but it doesn't mean I can't communicate it just means there's a lot of interference. Second my 9th fleet deployed over a week, with definitive posts about its travel. You didn't ignore it when I sunk your carrier so why ignore it now? Stop being childish about it Nicaro, when I proved you wrong you blocked me from tging you, grow up.

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Postby New Chilokver » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:40 pm

Is this still open?

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Postby West Aurelia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:42 pm

New Chilokver wrote:Is this still open?


Yes.
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Postby Valdiu » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:48 pm

Yeah, Chilo, I could use some help - so far I'm getting my butt kicked. I need an additional 100,000 troops or so to Benyetz :p
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Postby New Chilokver » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:49 pm

Valdiu wrote:Yeah, Chilo, I could use some help - so far I'm getting my butt kicked. I need an additional 100,000 troops or so to Benyetz :p

Hmm, give me a brief summary of everything so far and I'll think about it. I'm not sure if I want to go back to roleplaying yet.

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Postby Holy Empire of Moltavia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:20 pm

Nicaro Pls you said yourself you only have 30,000 men and that a lot have been deployed to onyetz. Where are you getting these thousands to attack the forest

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Postby New Roma Republic » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:42 am

Nicaro wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:Frankly, I have no idea what the hell is going. I have been busy irl recently, so I haven't been up to speed. I think the Gas attack happed. If it did, the just have all deployed troops be dead.


Okay, well even if you don't want to participate in the peace because of IRL do you want me to ICly return the corpses for intern or you don't care?


Thank you. Here is what I want to happen IC'ly:
I withdraw due to national sediment against the war after the loss of 3 Legions to the gas.
The bodies returned to the fleet which is offshore.
Any surviving aircraft go home immediately.
And I would like a delegate at the peace talks (I think my RL stuff has died down again, for now, so I can RP at the peace talks)

And do you want me to RP any of this?
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:43 am

Nicaro wrote:
Emmerian Republic wrote:Whose winning the battle of Tonzy


It's odd.

Roma's army had melted away, the Valduan army is on the beaches I believe and I don't know if they surrendered, I'm ignoring the 9th fleet, because there's no way it deployed that fast.

Moltavia's stranded men, magically, are communicating when I'm focusing *all* of my jamming capabilities on that one thing. Which is just more bull shit, imo.

The only fleet I am facing is yours, which I have now finally spotted. I will be engaging you in my next turn against you, since you just tried to hit me. How big is your fleet btw?

Carrier strike group units are at least 15 ships and I deployed two and I should be able to win the naval battle because I engaged your fleet four days ago and you ignore that. You can't expe to make the naval battle last in real life
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Postby Valdiu » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:10 am

ICly, I think that only 2 or 3 days have passed. But yeah, a bunch of people have engaged you, so unless you surrender, your fleet is pretty much gone.
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:36 am

Valdiu wrote:ICly, I think that only 2 or 3 days have passed. But yeah, a bunch of people have engaged you, so unless you surrender, your fleet is pretty much gone.

There was only Nicaroan engaging and a further more, I don't have any troops on the ground, just air and naval power besides, Nicaro's fleet is deteriorating
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Postby Nicaro » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:45 am

Holy Empire of Moltavia wrote:Nicaro you have consistently demonstrated you have no understanding of modern warfare whatsoever. You can jam me all you want but it doesn't mean I can't communicate it just means there's a lot of interference. Second my 9th fleet deployed over a week, with definitive posts about its travel. You didn't ignore it when I sunk your carrier so why ignore it now? Stop being childish about it Nicaro, when I proved you wrong you blocked me from tging you, grow up.


1. The people that damaged my first carrier was NK, the second was Emmerian.

2. Your second fleet ICly launched right after Operation Michelangelo, but the third point is going to make this mute.

3. I'm going to fire meh ignur canun at youz, cuz ima child :D

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Postby Nicaro » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:47 am

Emmerian Republic wrote:
Nicaro wrote:
It's odd.

Roma's army had melted away, the Valduan army is on the beaches I believe and I don't know if they surrendered, I'm ignoring the 9th fleet, because there's no way it deployed that fast.

Moltavia's stranded men, magically, are communicating when I'm focusing *all* of my jamming capabilities on that one thing. Which is just more bull shit, imo.

The only fleet I am facing is yours, which I have now finally spotted. I will be engaging you in my next turn against you, since you just tried to hit me. How big is your fleet btw?

Carrier strike group units are at least 15 ships and I deployed two and I should be able to win the naval battle because I engaged your fleet four days ago and you ignore that. You can't expe to make the naval battle last in real life


No, I can't. If you could just link me to the post, I'll adjust my casualties and we can call that fair? Y/N?

@ Valduan: Since my Operation Michelangelo it's been ~8-17 hours.

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Postby Emmerian Republic » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:49 am

Nicaro wrote:
Holy Empire of Moltavia wrote:Nicaro you have consistently demonstrated you have no understanding of modern warfare whatsoever. You can jam me all you want but it doesn't mean I can't communicate it just means there's a lot of interference. Second my 9th fleet deployed over a week, with definitive posts about its travel. You didn't ignore it when I sunk your carrier so why ignore it now? Stop being childish about it Nicaro, when I proved you wrong you blocked me from tging you, grow up.


1. The people that damaged my first carrier was NK, the second was Emmerian.

2. Your second fleet ICly launched right after Operation Michelangelo, but the third point is going to make this mute.

3. I'm going to fire meh ignur canun at youz, cuz ima child :D

Then You have no experience and sure why not
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