Is War A Valid Option To Deal With Putin?

[T Roosevelt]

We all know Russian President Putin is growing out of hand. Something has to be done, since economic sanctions aren't effective since they were issued against Russia. Should war be brought forth? Or is there yet another option?

No country can endure if it's foundations aren't laid in it's honor. No nation was ever great that relies on its economy for its prosperity. The debt of America is large to the great men of its past, Lincoln, Grant, George Washington. A policy of isolation toward Putin would defeat its end. The interests of America grow larger and will enter contact with fools. To maintain naval and military supremacy, our power must be maintained militarily with no care for our border lines. America must grasp places of vantage to decide the fate of this world and maintain our international honor. The muskets that fired between 1765 and 1783 must fire again.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Unless you are the USA, EU or China, good luck fighting with Putin as he has the third largest military in the world and can easily destroy many countries. Furthermore, war causes many issues that Putin can blame on the invaders, which will only makes things harder. Instead, diplomacy and trade can result in a less messy and easier way of dealing with the issue. Nixon met with Mao Ze Dong, who was a threat to the US, but through trade and diplomacy, China eventually liberalized their economy and is far less of a military threat than in the Cold War (We kinda became their military threat).

*Mao Tse-Tung or Mao Zedong, your spelling is oddly phallic.

And his thinking is naive too. History repeats itself, Adolf Hitler thought he had the strongest army in the world, Napoleon too.

[Armanischa]

I think that the chances of an all out war occurring between the United States and Russia is so unlikely, it is almost laughable. Each country respects the other enough to stay away militarily.

[Lyttenburg]

Europe needs another 1848, Russia included.

A series of failed revolutions some of which (like the Hungarian uprising) were put down with Russia's help? Or are you talking about the Irish famine?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes obviously, war is the answer to EVERYTHING.

In fact, we should go bomb Moscow right now! That'll teach that dastardly Putin.

[Lyttenburg]

Yes obviously, war is the answer to EVERYTHING.

In fact, we should go bomb Moscow right now! That'll teach that dastardly Putin.

Sarcasm? Or a terminal stage of RHB?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes obviously, war is the answer to EVERYTHING.

In fact, we should go bomb Moscow right now! That'll teach that dastardly Putin.

Sarcasm? Or a terminal stage of RHB?

Extreme sarcasm.

Jumping to war as an answer for everything is just stupid.

[Gristol-Serkonos]

Because war is the solution to everything.

Yes, yes... it is necessary.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Of course war is a valid option to deal with Putin.

Whether it is a good option is a much more salient point.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Europe needs another 1848, Russia included.

A series of failed revolutions some of which (like the Hungarian uprising) were put down with Russia's help? Or are you talking about the Irish famine?

They didn't fail, that opened the way for the new democracies in Europe(something Russia didn't even heard because they were still in feudal status). Why is your attitude so arrogant anyway? I get it you know stuff, but you are NOT the only one here who reads. There is a polite way to reply to everyone here and you are failing at it. Just a friendly reminder.

[Caninope]

Yes, those tend to happy when people violate international law.

So then where are all the anti-US threads?

There have been a great many over the years.

[Caninope]

*Mao Tse-Tung or Mao Zedong, your spelling is oddly phallic.

And his thinking is naive too. History repeats itself, Adolf Hitler thought he had the strongest army in the world, Napoleon too.

Napoleon actually did have the strongest army in the world, particularly in his earlier campaigns.

[Lyttenburg]

They didn't fail,

No, they did. Quote curtesy via Wikidorkia:

The Revolutions of 1848, known in some countries as the Spring of Nations, Springtime of the Peoples[3] or the Year of Revolution, were a series of political upheavals throughout Europe in 1848. It remains the most widespread revolutionary wave in European history, but within a year, reactionary forces had regained control, and the revolutions collapsed.

Do you know the meaning of the word "collapsed"?

that opened the way for the new democracies in Europe

Pfft! No. That phrase may be true in regards of the Great French Revolution (in retrospect) but not for 1848 ones.

(something Russia didn't even heard because they were still in feudal status)

Russia removed its "feudal status" and conveyed a lot of reforms without suffering the consequences of 1848 revolution on its own territory. The few nationalistic uprisings flaring up in that time were quiclkt dealt with.

Why is your attitude so arrogant anyway? I get it you know stuff, but you are NOT the only one here who reads. There is a polite way to reply to everyone here and you are failing at it. Just a friendly reminder.

Don't like my "attitude" - report me to Mods. Othervise - stop lecturing me and deal with criticism.

[RepublicofthePeople]

If he doesn't start chilling out, war will be the only option.

[Germanic Nordland]

Why should "we" wage war on Putin? To secure the American domination? I for one would rather see Europe and Russia tighten our bonds, instead of being US-lapdogs. We don't need the US, and we never did. US only used us for their own gain, as they do with countries in Southern/latin america, Africa and Asia as well. We, as Europeans, should unite and stop letting USA commanding everyone around .They should stick to their own policies.

[Murkwood]

Yes, like we should have done in Georgia.

[Dukats]

Why should "we" wage war on Putin? To secure the American domination? I for one would rather see Europe and Russia tighten our bonds, instead of being US-lapdogs. We don't need the US, and we never did. US only used us for their own gain, as they do with countries in Southern/latin america, Africa and Asia as well. We, as Europeans, should unite and stop letting USA commanding everyone around .They should stick to their own policies.

Yeah!!!!

[Draakonite]

I think that assassination is a more valid (and cheaper) way to deal with Putin than a World War...

[Myrensis]

Why should "we" wage war on Putin? To secure the American domination? I for one would rather see Europe and Russia tighten our bonds, instead of being US-lapdogs. We don't need the US, and we never did. US only used us for their own gain, as they do with countries in Southern/latin america, Africa and Asia as well. We, as Europeans, should unite and stop letting USA commanding everyone around .They should stick to their own policies.

I'm sure Eastern Europe will be pleased to know they have to be written off as Russia's Perpetual Sphere of Influence in order to secure Europe's freedom from American 'domination'.

[The Union of Tentacles and Grapes]

I'm more of an assasinations type of guy.

[United Marxist Nations]

Yes, like we should have done in Georgia.

Georgia was the aggressor in that war, it invaded South Ossetia, and killed the joint-Georgian-Russian Peacekeepers.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

(something Russia didn't even heard because they were still in feudal status).

Bzzt.

Serfdom is not feudalism. Russia's political system was not feudal. Nicholas I, while possessed of many flaws, did not approve of serfdom and sought ways to get rid of it throughout his career. Russia possessed a state operated bureaucracy which was (theoretically) meritocratic, and all real advancement in power and rank came via moving up the civilian or military ranks, not from one's titles. Of course, having a rich family to help you out was a decisive advantage, but that didn't stop, say, Lenin's family from moving up the ranks quite quickly, as an example.

There's also quite a bit of evidence that many in Russia were interested in democracy and reform, but Nicholas wanted to go the opposite direction with his own autocratic policies.

[T Roosevelt]

Of course war is a valid option to deal with Putin.

Whether it is a good option is a much more salient point.

War is the best option to deal with Putin.

[Quatan]

America invades the Mid East. Nobody bats an eye. Russia invades Ukraine. The West goes crazy.

I don't support Putin by the way. He is a capitalistic, bigoted, and imperialistic money hungry politician.

[Draakonite]

Of course war is a valid option to deal with Putin.

Whether it is a good option is a much more salient point.

War is the best option to deal with Putin.

Best by what measure?

A war would cost much more than a bag of gold.