Is War A Valid Option To Deal With Putin?

[MERIZoC]

Uhh…no?

[Ethel mermania]

Not, yet, war will wait till a nato country is invaded.

[Sun Wukong]

It's always an option.

But it's an option in the same way that cutting your foot off, and getting "I heart Adolf" tattooed on your forehead is an option.

[Everlyn]

It's always an option.

But it's an option in the same way that cutting your foot off, and getting "I heart Adolf" tattooed on your forehead is an option.

This is my favorite response yet!

[Haktiva]

If someone's thinking of invading Russia, they're fucking braindead. That's never worked, Putin knows this, and he's damn good at what he does. Nukes? Perhaps, but we still have MAD for the most part.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Putin is the greatest Russian leader the country has got in 3 centuries.

He's a tremendous homophobic & fascistic twat, that's what he is.

[Haktiva]

Putin is the greatest Russian leader the country has got in 3 centuries.

He's a tremendous homophobic & fascistic twat, that's what he is.

he's damn effective and doesn't bow down to leftist dribble and sacrifice culture for "equality"

[Infected Mushroom]

We all know Russian President Putin is growing out of hand. Something has to be done, since economic sanctions aren't effective since they were issued against Russia. Should war be brought forth? Or is there yet another option?

Yes. We recognize Russia's sphere of influence in exchange for Russia recognizing ours.

We let the Ukrainians decide their own fate, even if we might think some of their leaders are gullible.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

He's a tremendous homophobic & fascistic twat, that's what he is.

he's damn effective and doesn't bow down to leftist dribble and sacrifice culture for "equality"

He's effective at oppressing and murdering people. Equality is always above culture, and I'd rather be dead than be a rightist fascistic fucktard like Putin is.

[Haktiva]

he's damn effective and doesn't bow down to leftist dribble and sacrifice culture for "equality"

He's effective at oppressing and murdering people. Equality is always above culture, and I'd rather be dead than be a rightist fascistic fucktard like Putin is.

or you could just not live in Russia if you don't like the rules. I've always liked this quote

[Benian Republic]

I'm all for Malaysia and Ukraine fighting Russia tougether that would be a fun fight to watch

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

He's effective at oppressing and murdering people. Equality is always above culture, and I'd rather be dead than be a rightist fascistic fucktard like Putin is.

or you could just not live in Russia if you don't like the rules. I've always liked this quote

It's not simple to move out of a country, you know that right?

You need to get citizenship, have the money to move you and your belongings.

[Infected Mushroom]

Despite all the talk and a few hawkers in the corners, the United States and its allies won't do a thing to Russia over the Ukraine.

Democracies will not vote to sacrifice millions of their own citizens to fight and die in some far away country against a decently armed opponent (Russia is not some Third World country ripe for bullying, regime change and economic colonialism) and risk nuclear holocaust.

They'll talk, but they won't do a thing.

Russia on the other hand, with a firm leader at the helm and a nationalistic citizenry, is well-positioned to benefit from this kind of brinksmanship behavior. Putin is playing his cards right, in exact and calculated response to the weakness of the Western allies.

It doesn't matter that the West has more weapons, more money, more technology. Putin knows where they are weak... their political system and the inability of their citizens to stomach a real war. He knows the Vote will keep the West's soldiers a paper tiger.

In the mean time, he's using realpolitiks and careful maneuvering to regain the lost territories of the former Soviet Union. I think in time he will succeed and be remembered as a great Russian leader.

I predict there won't be a war or a Western military intervention. The West only interferes in wars against enemies who can't really fight back except through guerilla tactics. We've seen this in Korea, the West backed out soon after China entered. When the USSR invaded Afghanistan, the USA, despite their rhetoric, did not directly fight the Soviets.

The USA's not going to push against Russia. Worst case scenario, it starts arming rebels (who will later down the road, oppose the USA once their political goals don't align, just like the Taliban in Afghanistan).

That's how I see it.

[Haktiva]

or you could just not live in Russia if you don't like the rules. I've always liked this quote

It's not simple to move out of a country, you know that right?

You need to get citizenship, have the money to move you and your belongings.

depends how desperate you are to escape. can always go illegally across the border and claim refugee status. and what good are having things with you when you're dead? or "oppressed"?

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

It's not simple to move out of a country, you know that right?

You need to get citizenship, have the money to move you and your belongings.

depends how desperate you are to escape. can always go illegally across the border and claim refugee status. and what good are having things with you when you're dead? or "oppressed"?

So what you are saying is that just because Putin and his cronies are extremely fucking homophobic, people have to leave their entire lives behind?

[Everlyn]

depends how desperate you are to escape. can always go illegally across the border and claim refugee status. and what good are having things with you when you're dead? or "oppressed"?

So what you are saying is that just because Putin and his cronies are extremely fucking homophobic, people have to leave their entire lives behind?

No. They are saying that Putin and his "people" if they can be called that, are idiots who don't know the rules of the world.

[Haktiva]

Despite all the talk and a few hawkers in the corners, the United States and its allies won't do a thing to Russia over the Ukraine.

Democracies will not vote to sacrifice millions of their own citizens to fight and die in some far away country against a decently armed opponent (Russia is not some Third World country ripe for bullying, regime change and economic colonialism) and risk nuclear holocaust.

They'll talk, but they won't do a thing.

Russia on the other hand, with a firm leader at the helm and a nationalistic citizenry, is well-positioned to benefit from this kind of brinksmanship behavior. Putin is playing his cards right, in exact and calculated response to the weakness of the Western allies.

It doesn't matter that the West has more weapons, more money, more technology. Putin knows where they are weak... their political system and the inability of their citizens to stomach a real war. He knows the Vote will keep the West's soldiers a paper tiger.

In the mean time, he's using realpolitiks and careful maneuvering to regain the lost territories of the former Soviet Union. I think in time he will succeed and be remembered as a great Russian leader.

I predict there won't be a war or a Western military intervention. The West only interferes in wars against enemies who can't really fight back except through guerilla tactics. We've seen this in Korea, the West backed out soon after China entered. When the USSR invaded Afghanistan, the USA, despite their rhetoric, did not directly fight the Soviets.

The USA's not going to push against Russia. Worst case scenario, it starts arming rebels (who will later down the road, oppose the USA once their political goals don't align, just like the Taliban in Afghanistan).

That's how I see it.

there's not much profit in a war where you actually stand to lose stuff. That's the thing about war, you have to make it unprofitable in order to avoid it. Sure war creates a lot of money for the military industrial complex, but that money never goes back to the people.

considering how precarious the dollar is right now, I have to wonder if they'll just go for it. the American people are largely war weary, so it would take some kind of false flag to get them willing to commit to more bloodshed.

[Haktiva]

depends how desperate you are to escape. can always go illegally across the border and claim refugee status. and what good are having things with you when you're dead? or "oppressed"?

So what you are saying is that just because Putin and his cronies are extremely fucking homophobic, people have to leave their entire lives behind?

if they so choose to. the state doesn't really give a fuck about its citizens, only about what they can produce for the state. I have to wonder if Putin is just being ant-gay pride parade(that's really the only thing Russia is lacking and for the better if you ask me) just to piss off the West. It would make sense.

[Haktiva]

So what you are saying is that just because Putin and his cronies are extremely fucking homophobic, people have to leave their entire lives behind?

No. They are saying that Putin and his "people" if they can be called that, are idiots who don't know the rules of the world.

rules of the world?

[The New Sea Territory]

War is never a valid option of dealing with anything.

[Everlyn]

No. They are saying that Putin and his "people" if they can be called that, are idiots who don't know the rules of the world.

rules of the world?

Rules of the World:

#1: Do not piss off your neighbors without just and appropriate cause.
#2: Respect American arrogance
#3: DO NOT EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, INFLICT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES WITHOUT FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR AND LEGITIMATE CAUSE!!!

[United Marxist Nations]

War is never a valid option of dealing with anything.

Yeah it is.

[Everlyn]

War is never a valid option of dealing with anything.

Yeah it is.

I agree. War is the upgraded game of politics. Both are needed to run the world.

[Haktiva]

rules of the world?

Rules of the World:

#1: Do not piss off your neighbors without just and appropriate cause.
#2: Respect American arrogance
#3: DO NOT EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, INFLICT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES WITHOUT FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR AND LEGITIMATE CAUSE!!!

Oh. Unless you're the US right? or backed by the US?

[The Sotoan Union]

#1: Do not piss off your neighbors without just and appropriate cause.

I agree. War is the upgraded game of politics. Both are needed to run the world.

What?