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by Unibot » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:03 am
Vocenae wrote:Unibot, you have won NS.
by Manticore Reborn » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:15 pm
by Unibotian WASC Mission » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:52 pm
Manticore Reborn wrote:The Kingdom of Manticore Reborn does not see the point of this legislation. Crimes committed within our territory will be dealt with by our courts and our law enforcement agencies. The only use we see of a committee of this type would be to determine, or perhaps negotiate between involved nations, under which jurisdiction a criminal whom has committed crimes in more then one nation state should be prosecuted.
The humble representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn yields the floor.
by Manticore Reborn » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:05 pm
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:The Multilateral Arbitration Act is not concerned with unilateral arbitration, your excellency.
by Unibot » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:16 pm
Manticore Reborn wrote:Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:The Multilateral Arbitration Act is not concerned with unilateral arbitration, your excellency.
Nor should it. My government doesn't see the point to this legislation and was simply offering a situation that the focus of this august body would be better spent on.
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by Unibotian WASC Mission » Mon May 03, 2010 8:46 pm
by Sanctaria » Tue May 04, 2010 4:33 pm
by Unibot » Tue May 11, 2010 3:38 pm
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by Ainocra » Wed May 12, 2010 5:39 am
Unibot wrote:OOC: I've tweaked the language a lil' again.
Any suggestions? Comments?
by Unibot » Thu May 13, 2010 3:23 pm
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by Glen-Rhodes » Thu May 13, 2010 3:52 pm
I would be worried about referencing to past resolutions. It's not technically in violation of rules, but it assumes too much in my opinion.Applauding the work of previous and currently adopted legislation to establish perimeters for international territory, and the elimination of servitude, terrorism and international piracy on a coordinated multilateral platform,
"Multilateral Courthouse for Arbitration" seems to imply that the court itself is multilateral, made up of different appointees from member states. I would consider a different name. You aren't limited to a three-letter acronym, so you can be more specific as to what the court actually is for. (Also, there's an ICA remnant in the text that's been missed.)2. Requires that all stateless detainees captured by a multilateral effort under the provisions of WA legislation must be transported safely to the Multilateral Courthouse for Arbitration (MCA);
This clause is awkwardly worded. Also, a tribunal is typically a specialized court outside of a mainstream judicial system. For instance, Glen-Rhodes has made tribunals specifically for trying human rights violations after war. Consider the following changes:4. Affirms the prerogative and duty of the MCA to conduct tribunals to adjudicate the innocence or lack of, of stateless detainees for whatever crimes (as stipulated further in WA legislation) they are accused of, with a fair trial, when the stateless detainee (or a group of detainees) has been captured in a multilateral effort;
This sounds like some kind of self-executing amendment clause. I would be worried about the legality here.(b) Shall reflect the legal and judicial systems that the World Assembly promotes for member nations in its future, and past regulations;
Would 'judicious discretion' imply a separate trial to determine if the nations involved acted irresponsibly in detaining the innocent individual?8. Declares that all defendants found innocent of all or some of their accused crimes must be appropriately reimbursed by the World Assembly, at the judicious discretion of the MCA;
by Unibot » Thu May 13, 2010 4:38 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:My objections to the funding of incarceration aside, I am actually sympathetic to the idea of the World Assembly creating a court to try 'stateless' criminals.
Applauding the work of previous and currently adopted legislation to establish perimeters for international territory, and the elimination of servitude, terrorism and international piracy on a coordinated multilateral platform,
I would be worried about referencing to past resolutions. It's not technically in violation of rules, but it assumes too much in my opinion.
"Multilateral Courthouse for Arbitration" seems to imply that the court itself is multilateral, made up of different appointees from member states. I would consider a different name. You aren't limited to a three-letter acronym, so you can be more specific as to what the court actually is for. (Also, there's an ICA remnant in the text that's been missed.)2. Requires that all stateless detainees captured by a multilateral effort under the provisions of WA legislation must be transported safely to the Multilateral Courthouse for Arbitration (MCA);
This clause is awkwardly worded. Also, a tribunal is typically a specialized court outside of a mainstream judicial system. For instance, Glen-Rhodes has made tribunals specifically for trying human rights violations after war. Consider the following changes:4. Affirms the prerogative and duty of the MCA to conduct tribunals to adjudicate the innocence or lack of, of stateless detainees for whatever crimes (as stipulated further in WA legislation) they are accused of, with a fair trial, when the stateless detainee (or a group of detainees) has been captured in a multilateral effort;4. Affirm the duty of the [MCA] to try accused stateless detainees captured by a multilateral effort, for crimes established by World Assembly resolutions;
This sounds like some kind of self-executing amendment clause. I would be worried about the legality here.(b) Shall reflect the legal and judicial systems that the World Assembly promotes for member nations in its future, and past regulations;
Would 'judicious discretion' imply a separate trial to determine if the nations involved acted irresponsibly in detaining the innocent individual?8. Declares that all defendants found innocent of all or some of their accused crimes must be appropriately reimbursed by the World Assembly, at the judicious discretion of the MCA;
As a small suggestion, some articles seem pretty bare-boned and could probably be condensed.
On a personal level, I don't find the use of ellipses appealing at all.
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by Unibot » Sat May 22, 2010 9:43 am
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by Unibot » Sun May 23, 2010 11:17 am
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by Quelesh » Mon May 24, 2010 8:46 pm
(b) "Multilateral Effort" as a group of multiple WA member nations working in conjunction with one another to capture an accused criminal or a group of accused criminals;
2. Requires that all stateless detainees captured by a multilateral effort under the provisions of WA legislation must be transported safely to the International Courthouse for Multilateral Prosecution (ICMP);
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4. Affirms the duty of the ICMP to try accused stateless detainees captured by a multilateral effort, for crimes established by World Assembly resolutions;
9. Outlaws the use of capital punishment against, or otherwise, murder of a stateless individual;
by Unibot » Mon May 24, 2010 9:06 pm
Quelesh wrote:Can the ICMP only try people for crimes established by WA resolutions (i.e. for violating a WA resolution)? Or can it try people for any act that is a crime in any of the nations that participated in their capture?
What if the nations involved in the capture agree amongst themselves that the individual should be tried in one or another of their nations? Or that a regional court or something similar should have jurisdiction?
This clause does not seem to be limited to sentences handed down by the ICMP. Is the intent here to prohibit all execution of stateless criminals, even execution by member states in unilateral prosecutions? That seems to be the effect here. (I would not necessarily object to this, as capital punishment as a whole is barbaric and has no place in the modern world, but it caught my eye.)
Also, if there are any nations in which murder as a whole is not illegal, this clause would require that nation to criminalize murder of stateless individuals, thus granting such individuals more rights than everyone else.
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by Quelesh » Mon May 24, 2010 9:15 pm
Unibot wrote:Quelesh wrote:Can the ICMP only try people for crimes established by WA resolutions (i.e. for violating a WA resolution)? Or can it try people for any act that is a crime in any of the nations that participated in their capture?
If these nations can agree upon enforcing a law, then these nations are acting upon an international law that is not affiliated with the World Assembly. So this other entity of international law, can find justice with its own court. It is not the right, nor the responsibility of the World Assembly to try people for crimes that are not what we recognize as international law.
Unibot wrote:Also, if there are any nations in which murder as a whole is not illegal, this clause would require that nation to criminalize murder of stateless individuals, thus granting such individuals more rights than everyone else.
Well then, these nations could prohibit stateless people from entering their nation, that could keep these 'privileged' people from enter their nations and keep everyone in these nations equal. Although it is sad that the right to not be murdered is actually a privilege in some places.
by Diatraba » Tue May 25, 2010 7:02 am
by Dredafen » Tue May 25, 2010 7:50 am
Diatraba wrote:Unibot, you always write the best ever resolutions...god I love you for that one reason!
by Unibot » Tue May 25, 2010 8:54 am
Diatraba wrote:Unibot, you always write the best ever resolutions...god I love you for that one reason!
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by Embolalia » Wed May 26, 2010 9:02 am
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by Manticore Reborn » Wed May 26, 2010 9:13 am
Embolalia wrote:not have ridiculous multi-language spoilers that you don't keep neatly together. (Just put the spoiler tag on the same line as the last /spoiler tag)
by Charlotte Ryberg » Wed May 26, 2010 11:10 am
by Eraplevok » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:46 pm
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