by History Alive » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:27 am
by Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:40 am
by Distruzio » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:50 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:I'll take up arms for King and Country, of course. Parliament has overstepped its bounds in taking up arms against the Sovereign.
Cavaliers, with me! To victory!
by The Archregimancy » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:51 am
by Murkwood » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:59 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Dalcaria » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:59 am
by The Sotoan Union » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:24 am
by CTALNH » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:31 am
by Dalcaria » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:37 am
by Republic of Hasgriu » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:39 am
RIP United Kingdom 1707-2016New Jordslag wrote:Dammit, just realized they have each other's names in their sigs. Yet in my two years of existence nobody quotes what I say... *crawls into corner and cries*
by Avaerilon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:42 am
by Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:42 am
by The Sotoan Union » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:42 am
by Arztoztka » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:44 am
by Camelza » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:47 am
Eaglleia wrote:Normally I'd say monarchy...but Cromwell and Parliament over Charles any day.
by Dalcaria » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:48 am
Eaglleia wrote:Normally I'd say monarchy...but Cromwell and Parliament over Charles any day.
by Eaglleia » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:49 am
by The Sotoan Union » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:49 am
by Chelta » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:50 am
Vuzghulia wrote:An uncivilized nation ... institutions do not meet civilized standards ... barely fit to be called a nation ... the people's beer smells like hobo-urine, their sports are silly and feminine ... your music is ridiculed ... nobody takes your politicians seriously ... it would be a public service if someone invaded and taught your people civilized ways.
Breheim wrote:Chelta is a den of deviants.
by The Sotoan Union » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:51 am
Dalcaria wrote:Eaglleia wrote:Normally I'd say monarchy...but Cromwell and Parliament over Charles any day.
From what I can tell, Cromwell wasn't much better than Charles. I'm of the mind to support the crown, but not necessarily the one who wears it. However, the topic is more "do you support A or B?" and they don't really give you the "actually, I'm going to make an option C" option, because that's the one I'd go with. Depose Charles, bring in a decent king, and ensure the powers of the monarch and the parliament are balanced in such a way that will be most beneficial to the people... And the Puritans can have Plymouth rock.
by Avaerilon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:52 am
The Sotoan Union wrote:Where does this anti-religion sentiment come from? Charles is the one who has made some unpopular religious choices. The Parliament just wants to keep the conventional church of England.
by Distruzio » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:54 am
The Sotoan Union wrote:Do any of you realize just how ineffective the current King is? Don't look at this as the King vs the Parliament. Look at this as the Parliament vs King Charles, and everything he stands for as an individual.
Ever since the Magna Carta, it has been established that England is not an absolute monarchy in any sense of the term. Our King is the leader of our country. But he is not our country. Our King shares his power with the Parliament, representing the people of this country. Our Parliament has long served as an advisory body to His Majesty. Our Parliament has raised tax revenues for the King in a far more effective manner than the King could alone. The Parliament can also submit bills to the King. This allows the will of the people to have influence over the King's decisions.
But King Charles would have us return to the dark ages. King Charles ruled for eleven years as a tyrant. He abused his power. When he sent English troops to France to die, he dissolved Parliament when they expressed their right to criticize them. During his eleven year tyranny he raised several illegal taxes, long banned by English law. He married a catholic, and when accused of trying to bring back Catholicism he had dissidents arrested. When he finally reformed Parliament, it was only because he needed money to invade Scotland. When the Parliament dared to negotiate with him, he disbanded them and invaded Scotland himself. Then he recalled Parliament, but only because he needed money again. Never mind the fact that the King started this war. Never mind the fact that he tried to have five members of the House of Commons arrested.
Our King is not only a tyrant, but an ineffective leader. Some of you have said that it is your duty to support the King. That the Parliament is extremist. Don't be fooled. King Charles is the radical who would defy centuries of English government. The Parliament simply asks that we return to the system established by the Magna Carta. The same system that has produced some of the greatest leaders in English history. We are not some band of barbarians lead by a mouth breathing chieftain. We are civilized and enlightened. We cast aside the idea of absolute monarchy ages ago. To preserve our religion, our way of life, and our civility, we must support Parliament. They are the conservatives here. King Charles is trying to change centuries of English government. The Parliament is not trying to destroy the monarchy. It is simply trying to oust a tyrant and an extremist.
by The Sotoan Union » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:55 am
Avaerilon wrote:The Sotoan Union wrote:Where does this anti-religion sentiment come from? Charles is the one who has made some unpopular religious choices. The Parliament just wants to keep the conventional church of England.
In fact, squire, Mr. Cromwell believed the celebration of Christmas to be immoral- with all the garish clothes and feasting and merriment so acidic to the soul in his puritanical eyes, and henceforth upon his victory did ban its celebration, the wretched swine!
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