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Who would you like for CYOE 5's OP?

Celritannia
10
9%
Paragania
5
4%
New Visegrad
5
4%
New Tsavon
37
32%
Korva
32
28%
Bratislavskaya
4
4%
NirvashTypeTheEND
9
8%
Kouralia
12
11%
 
Total votes : 114

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Gear 1
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Postby Gear 1 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:29 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?


The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.
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Doppio Giudici
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Postby Doppio Giudici » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:31 pm

Gear 1 wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?


The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.


The Pershing was considered a heavy tank during the war, but became a medium one after it.

It stands to reason that the maximum size of the gun practically is dependent on size.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:57 pm

Gear 1 wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Guys, I've got a question. I'm looking to mount a 90mm Cannon on either a medium or heavy tank (Mid-to-late WW2 Era), and I've got two prototypes right now, here. Any opinion on which is better?


The longer one makes me think of the T34/85 later models as compared to the T34/76 early models.

I think for practical and performance reasons, a medium tank of the era wouldn't mount a 90mm without a decent size muzzle brake, which I didn't see in either drawing. The Sherman Firefly/105mm had a fairly significant muzzle brake, if memory serves. And the Russians only mounted a 100mm gun as a fixed forward weapon in their SU100 Assault Gun to counter the Jagdpanzer.

Not discounting the merits of putting a 90mm gun on a tank of WWII era - it could do a lot of damage against tanks built to perform against 75 or 76mm projectiles. However, remember the Germans deployed 88mm guns not unlike a 90mm in only the heaviest tanks (Tiger I, etc.).

I'd suggest looking at a more modern 90mm like the Cockerill, or the ones that were mounted on the M48 tank to get ideas if you want something light enough to fit to a medium tank. Otherwise, you're probably building a heavy for it.

Right. I didn't quite know what type of tank I should've mounted the 90 on, but I think I'll put it on the heavy tank then, and I'll use a 48 or 54mm on the medium tank.
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"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

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Postby Graditora » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:19 pm

WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:32 pm

Graditora wrote:WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38


AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.
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Postby Gear 1 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:26 pm

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Security sweep at an Inter-Global Manufacturing yard... A parked MRS-01 and delivery crew await a security check by a team of GEAR 1 soldiers prior to moving out on their run to deliver a production unit...
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Postby Graditora » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:13 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Graditora wrote:WW2 Medium tank I hear? http://iiwiki.com/wiki/GR-38


AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.

AMX-50-100 is a heavy and is inferior to GR-38A3O because "success".
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Moriskov
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Postby Moriskov » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:21 pm

Graditora wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
AMX-50-100 is superior medium tank.

AMX-50-100 is a heavy and is inferior to GR-38A3O because "success".

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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Bratislavskaya » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:10 pm

That sir is a thing of beauty. By the looks it is also a bringer of death.
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San-Silvacian
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:44 pm

"Mikhail, what is of tank in front of us?"

"Is of bitch tank, gib many 120mm boolets to face."

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Erusuia
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:46 pm

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UG-92

Ma first attempt at a tank lineart, based on Jeff Highs T-80 chassis
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Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Doppio Giudici
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Postby Doppio Giudici » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:53 pm

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

UG-92

Ma first attempt at a tank lineart, based on Jeff Highs T-80 chassis


Is there supposed to be ERA on the side as well?

Are you going to use camo?

Other then that it looks awesome.
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Erusuia
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:57 pm

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Version with much better frontal turret armor :D

The stuff on the front of the turret is ERA with spaced armor under it but other then that the tank is ERA free, and I sadly lack the skillz to make camo lol.

The thing on the back of the turret is a basket for extra supplies/ slat armor
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Doppio Giudici
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Postby Doppio Giudici » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:00 pm

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Version with much better frontal turret armor :D

The stuff on the front of the turret is ERA with spaced armor under it but other then that the tank is ERA free, and I sadly lack the skillz to make camo lol.


On the JG forum there is a whole section of camo, I recommend blowing it up to 400% for tanks.
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:07 pm

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Now some small improvements

I think I'm going to leave it camo-less, I kind of like the drab dust colours
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:13 pm

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A light machine gun I've been stuck on for a while now. I think I like it.

Features pull-back feed with switchable feed tray modules, allowing for pan magazines, box magazines, left, or right handed belt feed. Ejection is always to the right.

And of course quick-swap barrels.
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Erusuia
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:21 pm

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Now with a lower profile turret
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:33 pm

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Now with a lower profile turret

I like this one better.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:49 pm

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Postby Torsiedelle » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:58 pm

Fear the Torsiedellie-variant T-80!

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And the new and improved Praetorian MBT, with changed up gun, ERA, and gun turret/fuel tank. I forget whether I actually posted it before or not...

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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:00 pm

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UG-92M, projecting glory over the steppe
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby Doppio Giudici » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:20 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:Fear the Torsiedellie-variant T-80!

(Image)

And the new and improved Praetorian MBT, with changed up gun, ERA, and gun turret/fuel tank. I forget whether I actually posted it before or not...

(Image)


Wow, your work has gotten a lot better. I might start taking tips from you as well.

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

UG-92M, projecting glory over the steppe


Looks really nice.
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Postby Moriskov » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:16 pm

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Glory to IKS masterrace, glory to the otechestvo!
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Post War America » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:45 am

Moriskov wrote:(Image)

Glory to IKS masterrace, glory to the otechestvo!



That is one fuckhuge gun for such a small tank...

all the better to rule all teh clay.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:51 am

Already posted on the warship thread, but whatever.

Cut/Paste!

So...I made my first ship.

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Don't ask me what it is. Your guess is as good as mine. I just opened Paint.NET and went crazy. Considering I just wanted to make something that resembled a ship, I'm proud of it.

I don't plan on this being an actual warship, but...maybe with some modifications, I could use it for military whaling (we use giant, mutated whales as shore defense. Don't ask).
NEW FRENCO EMPIRE

Transferring information from disorganized notes into presentable factbooks is way too time consuming for a procrastinator. Just ask if you have questions.
Plutocratic Evil Empire™ situated in a post-apocalyptic Decopunk North America. Extreme PMT, yet socially stuck in the interwar/immediate post-war era, with Jazz music and flapper culture alongside nanotechnology and Martian colonies. Tier I power of the Frencoverse.


Las Palmeras wrote:Roaring 20s but in the future and with mutants

Alyakia wrote:you are a modern poet
Top Hits of 2132! (Imperial Public Radio)
Coming at you from Fort Orwell! (Imperial Forces Network)



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