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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:48 pm

Death Metal wrote:
greed and death wrote:The ticking is the Republicans not raising the debt ceiling because they can.


It's AuSable. He's a habitual liar who has no facts to back up his claims.

The Republicans have received a clear message back down and fund the government get primaried even the majority leader is not safe.
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Postby Death Metal » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:52 pm

greed and death wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
It's AuSable. He's a habitual liar who has no facts to back up his claims.

The Republicans have received a clear message back down and fund the government get primaried even the majority leader is not safe.


Which is moronic, because they're the ones who set themselves up in the no-win situation in the first place. The debt ceiling is pretty much essentially useless, even for what it's sole purpose is, and that's a political weapon used to hold the entire country hostage.
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Postby WRIF Army » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:05 pm

Death Metal wrote:
greed and death wrote:The Republicans have received a clear message back down and fund the government get primaried even the majority leader is not safe.


Which is moronic, because they're the ones who set themselves up in the no-win situation in the first place. The debt ceiling is pretty much essentially useless, even for what it's sole purpose is, and that's a political weapon used to hold the entire country hostage.



What is holding the entire country AND posterity hostage ?

This...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Draica wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/eric-cantor-faces-tea-party-challenge-tuesday/2014/06/10/17da5d20-f092-11e3-bf76-447a5df6411f_story.html

The neo-con, pro-amnesity moderate Eric Cantor has been primaried and the Liberals have been proven wrong once more. Liberals and pundits on MSNBC and CNN have been saying the Tea Party is "irrelevant" and weak, well, obviously they aren't. The tactic of primarying these candidates has succeeded and will continue to succeed, as a Conservative I am proud tonight.

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby WRIF Army » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:09 pm

4years wrote:
WRIF Army wrote:Cantor's ouster is symptomatic of the future.


That we can agree on, if nothing else. Cantor's ouster tells of a future where the Republican Party been crushed by history, with the 'mainstream' Republicans dissolving into the Democrats and the Tea party nuts being relegated the status of a exceptionally small third party party. A future where the Democrat party has been exposed as the rightist party it really is and has slid even further to the right. A future where the 'left' wing of the Democrats has no reason to remain with the party. A future were the Social Democratic Labour Parry of America, or even the Revolutionary Communist Party, is the second major party. The Republican Party is doing its level best to achieve the historical task of the American left, i.e. to create a mass party of labor on the level of European social democracy or even further left.

We live in one of the most turbulent times in history, a time where revolution boils and bubbles to the surface, a time where the proletariat is feeling its way forward and testing is strength. The world revolution has begun, the masses have heard its iron tramp. It may take another ten, twenty, or thirty years but the revolution will be victorious, nothing can stop it now. In these conditions, the development of even a reformist party would be an explosive event. Capitalism would be challenged on every front and the party would increasingly shift to the left. The only real question is whether it will shift far enough left, whether trained a Marxist cadres will be sitting at the head of the party when the mass surge forward.

Trotsky once compared a revolutionary party to a piston box: the masses produce enormous energy (steam) which disperses in the absence of direction. The party gives direction to that, serves as reliable guidepost pointing the way to the future. Nevertheless it is the steam, not the piston or the box that, that moves things. The water is boiling, soon it will boil over throwing vast amounts of steam off into the air. The task of Marxists, of communists, is to build a piston box to channel the steam forward, to guide the masses as they travel the path of revolution.

The storm is coming, either we will ride it forward or we will be crushed and cast aside; the choice before us is stark and brutal, no choice at all really. Humanity is faced with a simple dilemma: socialism or extinction.


Socialism = coercion.

Without a gun, socialism fails.

With a gun, socialism fails... eventually...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:10 pm

WRIF Army wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Which is moronic, because they're the ones who set themselves up in the no-win situation in the first place. The debt ceiling is pretty much essentially useless, even for what it's sole purpose is, and that's a political weapon used to hold the entire country hostage.



What is holding the entire country AND posterity hostage ?

This...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:19 pm

WRIF Army wrote:
4years wrote:
That we can agree on, if nothing else. Cantor's ouster tells of a future where the Republican Party been crushed by history, with the 'mainstream' Republicans dissolving into the Democrats and the Tea party nuts being relegated the status of a exceptionally small third party party. A future where the Democrat party has been exposed as the rightist party it really is and has slid even further to the right. A future where the 'left' wing of the Democrats has no reason to remain with the party. A future were the Social Democratic Labour Parry of America, or even the Revolutionary Communist Party, is the second major party. The Republican Party is doing its level best to achieve the historical task of the American left, i.e. to create a mass party of labor on the level of European social democracy or even further left.

We live in one of the most turbulent times in history, a time where revolution boils and bubbles to the surface, a time where the proletariat is feeling its way forward and testing is strength. The world revolution has begun, the masses have heard its iron tramp. It may take another ten, twenty, or thirty years but the revolution will be victorious, nothing can stop it now. In these conditions, the development of even a reformist party would be an explosive event. Capitalism would be challenged on every front and the party would increasingly shift to the left. The only real question is whether it will shift far enough left, whether trained a Marxist cadres will be sitting at the head of the party when the mass surge forward.

Trotsky once compared a revolutionary party to a piston box: the masses produce enormous energy (steam) which disperses in the absence of direction. The party gives direction to that, serves as reliable guidepost pointing the way to the future. Nevertheless it is the steam, not the piston or the box that, that moves things. The water is boiling, soon it will boil over throwing vast amounts of steam off into the air. The task of Marxists, of communists, is to build a piston box to channel the steam forward, to guide the masses as they travel the path of revolution.

The storm is coming, either we will ride it forward or we will be crushed and cast aside; the choice before us is stark and brutal, no choice at all really. Humanity is faced with a simple dilemma: socialism or extinction.


Socialism = coercion.

Without a gun, socialism fails.

With a gun, socialism fails... eventually...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:09 am

WRIF Army wrote:
4years wrote:
That we can agree on, if nothing else. Cantor's ouster tells of a future where the Republican Party been crushed by history, with the 'mainstream' Republicans dissolving into the Democrats and the Tea party nuts being relegated the status of a exceptionally small third party party. A future where the Democrat party has been exposed as the rightist party it really is and has slid even further to the right. A future where the 'left' wing of the Democrats has no reason to remain with the party. A future were the Social Democratic Labour Parry of America, or even the Revolutionary Communist Party, is the second major party. The Republican Party is doing its level best to achieve the historical task of the American left, i.e. to create a mass party of labor on the level of European social democracy or even further left.

We live in one of the most turbulent times in history, a time where revolution boils and bubbles to the surface, a time where the proletariat is feeling its way forward and testing is strength. The world revolution has begun, the masses have heard its iron tramp. It may take another ten, twenty, or thirty years but the revolution will be victorious, nothing can stop it now. In these conditions, the development of even a reformist party would be an explosive event. Capitalism would be challenged on every front and the party would increasingly shift to the left. The only real question is whether it will shift far enough left, whether trained a Marxist cadres will be sitting at the head of the party when the mass surge forward.

Trotsky once compared a revolutionary party to a piston box: the masses produce enormous energy (steam) which disperses in the absence of direction. The party gives direction to that, serves as reliable guidepost pointing the way to the future. Nevertheless it is the steam, not the piston or the box that, that moves things. The water is boiling, soon it will boil over throwing vast amounts of steam off into the air. The task of Marxists, of communists, is to build a piston box to channel the steam forward, to guide the masses as they travel the path of revolution.

The storm is coming, either we will ride it forward or we will be crushed and cast aside; the choice before us is stark and brutal, no choice at all really. Humanity is faced with a simple dilemma: socialism or extinction.


Socialism = coercion.

Without a gun, socialism fails.

With a gun, socialism fails... eventually...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


With or without a gun, everything fails, eventually. Because everything is finite, and entropy doesn't care about us.

Also, linking that same link over and over doesn't mean anything. There are a lot more important things in this world than the 'debt clock'.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:34 am

WRIF Army wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Which is moronic, because they're the ones who set themselves up in the no-win situation in the first place. The debt ceiling is pretty much essentially useless, even for what it's sole purpose is, and that's a political weapon used to hold the entire country hostage.



What is holding the entire country AND posterity hostage ?

This...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


no its not. its a medium to long term problem that fighting over the debt limit only exacerbates.
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Postby Death Metal » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:10 am

Guys, it's AuSable. No matter how much you debunk his totalitarian propaganda, he'll ignore it and repeat his copypasta spam. He will continue to hijack the thread and parrot his non-arguments ad nauseam.

He's been banned and DEATed for doing this before. I'm pretty sure he's Delete on Sight, but under a proxy to keep the mods from catching on, but it's very obviously him.

There's only one way to deal with him.
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Postby Paledonn » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:37 pm

WRIF Army wrote:
Paledonn wrote:Obama is laughing right now with Biden. The democrats just got a big victory. The republicans should be ashamed. :palm:


Obama, Biden, Hillary and other progressives won't be laughing when this ticking time bomb http://www.usdebtclock.org/ bankrupts the federal government and with it turns the United States into an economic mess with lower growth and living standards.

As progressive government exposes itself as a farcical cesspool of corruption and inefficiency, the stronger the libertarian movement will become and eventually fill the void. Cantor's ouster is symptomatic of the future.

Hahahaha! That is one of the many reasons i'm a conservative.

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