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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:37 pm

I'm going to call this as being a bit overboard.

CAMBRIDGE, Md.- He's a man with many names, and the books he has written have raised the concerns of the Dorchester County Board of Education and the Dorchester County Sheriff's Office.

Early last week the school board was alerted that one of its eighth grade language arts teachers at Mace's Lane Middle School had several aliases. Police said that under those names, he wrote two fictional books about the largest school shooting in the country's history set in the future. Now, Patrick McLaw is placed on leave.

Dr. K.S. Voltaer is better known by some in Dorchester County as Patrick McLaw, or even Patrick Beale. Not only was he a teacher at Mace's Lane Middle School in Cambridge, but according to Dorchester Sheriff James Phillips, McLaw is also the author of two books: "The Insurrectionist" and its sequel, "Lillith's Heir."

Those books are what caught the attention of police and school board officials in Dorchester County. "The Insurrectionist" is about two school shootings set in the future, the largest in the country's history.

Phillips said McLaw was taken in for an emergency medical evaluation. The sheriff would not disclose where McLaw is now, but he did say that he is not on the Eastern Shore. The same day that McLaw was taken in for an evaluation, police swept Mace's Lane Middle School for bombs and guns, coming up empty.

Dorchester County Superintendent of Schools Dr. Henry Wagner said the Dorchester County Board of Education has taken its own action.

"We have advised our community that the gentleman has been placed on administrative leave, and has been prohibited from entering any Dorchester County public school property," Wagner said.

The 23-year-old language arts teacher had already taught at the school for a year.

With school starting Tuesday, some parents tell WBOC they are concerned about safety, but both Wagner and Phillips said there is nothing to worry about.

"There will be a Cambridge Police Department presence at Mace's Lane middle school for as long as we deem it necessary," Wagner said.

"I think that the various police agencies that we have, working in conjunction with the board have a handle on the situation and I think we're going to have a safe and happy opening day of school tomorrow," Phillips said in an interview Monday with WBOC..
Phillips said law enforcement across Delmarva have been sent McLaw's photo and information. The sheriff said McLaw is banned from county properties in Dorchester and Wicomico counties, as well as the Delmar School District.


TL;DR version: A middle school teacher in Maryland wrote two science fiction novels in the same universe in which a mass school shooting was a central plot point. Parents and the school board freaked out like whoa. Not only was he placed on administrative leave, but the teacher was taken into custody for psychiatric observation. His house was searched. No guns or explosives were found.

This is horrifying. I'm not sure what else to say. People use literature to explore all sorts of disturbing themes, and writers will often use material that they're familiar with in order to add verisimilitude to their stories. The idea that people are now being judged on their fictional works, not in terms of whether or not they may have committed a crime (which can be legitimate), but rather whether or not they may commit a crime in the future. If this is upheld as reasonable by the courts, then it will undoubtedly have a chilling effect on free speech and creativity.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:40 pm

I have to fear that freedom of speech no longer exists. The government's slowly becoming a police state.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:42 pm

I would be freaked out if I was his student. People often write stories about their dreams and fantasies. Maybe he hated his students and it was some kind of self-insert wish fulfillment story for him. Even if it wasn't it was in very bad taste.

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Postby Shofercia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:43 pm

What the actual fuck? He wrote the book under another name, specifying that it's fiction set in the future. Did any of his lessons harm the students? Was there any actual evidence of said harm?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:44 pm

So, does that mean that principals and superintendents should be incarcerated for implementing safety procedures based on school shootings?
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Postby Cyrisnia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:46 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:So, does that mean that principals and superintendents should be incarcerated for implementing safety procedures based on school shootings?

Anyone who talks/thinks about it should be expelled!
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:46 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:So, does that mean that principals and superintendents should be incarcerated for implementing safety procedures based on school shootings?

Pure genius, this.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:I would be freaked out if I was his student. People often write stories about their dreams and fantasies. Maybe he hated his students and it was some kind of self-insert wish fulfillment story for him. Even if it wasn't it was in very bad taste.


I remember hearing about a teacher who was so disturbed by the bullying that went on in his school that he used it as inspiration for his first novel, a story about a young woman who is so horribly scarred by her dysfunctional home and school life that when she's the victim of a cruel prank at a school function, her response is to kill off a good part of the student body. Alarming, right?

The book was Carrie. The author was Stephen King. As far as I know, none of his students died at his hands.

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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:47 pm

What a bunch of cunts.

That being said is complex, independent, and rational thought not work in their mind or are they a bunch of lazy deadbeats?
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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:47 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I have to fear that freedom of speech no longer exists. The government's slowly becoming a police state.


Right. Oh woe, a teacher wrote a fiction piece about a supposed future scenario; call out the SWAT team.

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:48 pm

:eyebrow: Writing a book about something doesn't mean you support everything that happens in it.
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Postby Pandeeria » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:48 pm

Well, this is bullshit.

Have we really gotten that reactive and paranoid of school shootings that we'll fucking fire and expel those that talk about it?
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:49 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:I would be freaked out if I was his student. People often write stories about their dreams and fantasies. Maybe he hated his students and it was some kind of self-insert wish fulfillment story for him. Even if it wasn't it was in very bad taste.

So me writing a story set in a world equivalent to Late Antiquity means I secretly want to launch cavalry raids against villages looting, murdering, etc to my heart's desire?

GRRM secretly wants to raise people from the dead and commit incest I guess.
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Postby Bojikami » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:49 pm

Typical overreaction by the American government.

No surprises here.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:50 pm

Geilinor wrote::eyebrow: Writing a book about something doesn't mean you support everything that happens in it.

No, J.K. Rowling is a white-supremacist fascist Satanist who practices dark magik.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:50 pm

Man, the paranoia Americans have about terrorist attacks is insane.

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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:50 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I have to fear that freedom of speech no longer exists. The government's slowly becoming a police state.


Right. Oh woe, a teacher wrote a fiction piece about a supposed future scenario; call out the SWAT team.

Modern overkill mindset.

Speaking of swatting, they busted into a gamers house during a live stream...and arrested him (and his girlfriend) for felony drug possession because they were assholes looking for meth instead they found marijuana.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:50 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:I would be freaked out if I was his student. People often write stories about their dreams and fantasies. Maybe he hated his students and it was some kind of self-insert wish fulfillment story for him. Even if it wasn't it was in very bad taste.

So me writing a story set in a world equivalent to Late Antiquity means I secretly want to launch cavalry raids against villages looting, murdering, etc to my heart's desire?


That explains all of your posts on NSG, Napki :P

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:51 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:I would be freaked out if I was his student. People often write stories about their dreams and fantasies. Maybe he hated his students and it was some kind of self-insert wish fulfillment story for him. Even if it wasn't it was in very bad taste.

So me writing a story set in a world equivalent to Late Antiquity means I secretly want to launch cavalry raids against villages looting, murdering, etc to my heart's desire?

GRRM secretly wants to raise people from the dead and commit incest I guess.

No, but if you were say, a police officer that wrote a story about a police officer that planted false evidence and tortured people for confessions it would look suspicious.

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Postby Godular » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:52 pm

Heh... I'm in serious trouble if I ever show Red Dawn to my students... KIDS WITH GUNS OMG GIT THE ROPE.

But I'd only deserve it if I played the more recent one.
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Empire of Narnia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So me writing a story set in a world equivalent to Late Antiquity means I secretly want to launch cavalry raids against villages looting, murdering, etc to my heart's desire?

GRRM secretly wants to raise people from the dead and commit incest I guess.

No, but if you were say, a police officer that wrote a story about a police officer that planted false evidence and tortured people for confessions it would look suspicious.


Not really. Unless it's a how to guide by OJ, or something on that level, I'd be fine with it.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Godular wrote:Heh... I'm in serious trouble if I ever show Red Dawn to my students... KIDS WITH GUNS OMG GIT THE ROPE.

But I'd only deserve it if I played the more recent one.

My history teacher last year showed us Cold War "duck and cover" PSA's. Oh my god.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So me writing a story set in a world equivalent to Late Antiquity means I secretly want to launch cavalry raids against villages looting, murdering, etc to my heart's desire?

GRRM secretly wants to raise people from the dead and commit incest I guess.

No, but if you were say, a police officer that wrote a story about a police officer that planted false evidence and tortured people for confessions it would look suspicious.

No, it wouldn't. The police officer might have written it as an example of what not do to.
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Postby Digital Planets » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Oh shit, 1984 is happening.
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Maybe if the work was a Kaczynski-esque book of rambling and plottings that painted school shooters in a positive light, I'd be worried. But it doesn't sound like that.

Some science fiction novel? Who cares, really quite an overreaction.
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