LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

Absolutely not. From what I said so far, do I look like I need it ?

Yes.

Then, Sir or M´am or Intersex person, you are mistaken.

[Grenartia]

How is it relevant to this discussion, and how is it any of your business? If you can give any reasonable answer to either one of your questions, I'll answer, but until then, I don't have to say a damn word.

You know, you could just answer me some posts ago without being so cagey, which, naturally, raises some suspicions. But, okay, if you don't wan't to answer in front of the forum just TG me. I give my word, that won't repost the answer to public.

How is it relevant to this discussion, and how is it any of your business? If you can give any reasonable answer to either one of your questions, I'll answer, but until then, I don't have to say a damn word. It has nothing to do with "fears of the public finding out", because there's nothing I have to say on the subject that I'm afraid of the rest of the forum knowing. However, it has EVERYTHING to do with relevancy. As in, your line of questioning is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[Distruzio]

What am I supposed to do when he asks where babys come from?

He's already confused at that point, so you must remove that confusion by teaching him.

You're correct. So I'll tell him, in order to spare his simple little mind, that mommies eat bad boys and mix mommy magic with the chewed up bits to poop out good boys. If sex is something that confuses children, and alternative sexual choices render that confusion painful to children, I'd best do my utmost to present the simplest and non-offensive explanations for my son. What should I do? Trust that my parenting skills have taken firm enough root in him that he accepts that some people might not choose what he chooses?

The audacity of that!

[Neutraligon]

Yes.

Then, Sir or M´am or Intersex person, you are mistaken.

Not really considering you needed to do so.

[Lyttenburg]

I know, right? Its like they're not even fucking trying.

How about answering my question? All my qestions are very simple and require just a little bit of knowledge and effort to answer.

Lyttenburg, come back when you're capable of making and/or willing to make serious, valid arguments that don't lead to threadjacking. I might not live long enough to see it, but I'll make sure to leave provisions in my will so that my descendents will be able to.

Your... descendants?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's the only logical conclusion to this.

Take him out of school and have him lead an Amish life. Poor soul must be tortured by school, worse than waterboarding if you ask me.

What am I supposed to do when he asks where babys come from?

Tell him he's dirty and shame him for asking questions. We must keep children from questions too, they clearly harm them.

[Dyakovo]

Ah, the even smaller minority of hermaphrodites. Why didn´t you just say hermaphrodites ? As a conservative I like older terms and expressions, like "the love that dares not speak it´s name".
Anyway, I don´t think it´s fair that the hetero majority should submit to diktats of political correctedness coming from such fringe groups.
Besides, basing civil rights claims on what you got between your legs makes it vile and improper.

Comte, I may disagree with your attitude to hashish that you've expressed in the book, but here I'm in a total agreement with you.

I'd have more respect for the "Political correctness", if it would really be about "respect and co-existance for all", without "exceptions", "acceptable targets" and "preferential treatment" for the groups with the biggest lobby in the "Western World"

The trouble is - it's just not safe to say such things in such places. Even my attemtps to completely correctly use term "homosexualists" was very ill-received.

There is no correct way to use "homosexualists" as it's a nonsense term. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an ideology.

[Distruzio]

What am I supposed to do when he asks where babys come from?

Tell him he's dirty and shame him for asking questions. We must keep children from questions too, they clearly harm them.

It's clearly the only choice.

[Grenartia]

I know, right? Its like they're not even fucking trying.

1. How about answering my question? All my qestions are very simple and require just a little bit of knowledge and effort to answer.

Lyttenburg, come back when you're capable of making and/or willing to make serious, valid arguments that don't lead to threadjacking. I might not live long enough to see it, but I'll make sure to leave provisions in my will so that my descendents will be able to.

2. Your... descendants?

1. The question was so ridiculous that to answer it would lend an air of undeserved legitimacy to whatever argument you were trying to make.

2. OH NOES! WOE IS ME! LYTTENBURG CAUGHT ME MAKING AN EASILY MADE SPELLING MISTAKE! MY REPUTATION IS RUINED!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I learned about it as a kid, and I turned out fine. Seems like this is a you problem, not a problem for children. If children were raised that some guys liked guys and some girls liked girls they wouldn't be confused. It's the fact that children are raises to demonize homosexuals that makes them confused by it.

I disagree. Children expect, and need, the complementarity of the sexes.

They uh... they really don't.

[Dyakovo]

I learned about it as a kid, and I turned out fine. Seems like this is a you problem, not a problem for children. If children were raised that some guys liked guys and some girls liked girls they wouldn't be confused. It's the fact that children are raises to demonize homosexuals that makes them confused by it.

I disagree. Children expect, and need, the complementarity of the sexes.

Absolute bullshit.

[Grenartia]

I disagree. Children expect, and need, the complementarity of the sexes.

Absolute bullshit.

In case you didn't already see it, CMC's a total Poe.

[Neutraligon]

Absolute bullshit.

In case you didn't already see it, CMC's a total Poe.

Gren, I don't want you to be docked for Poe-naming so be careful please.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I disagree. Children expect, and need, the complementarity of the sexes.

Absolute bullshit.

It's as if the human mind only deals with concrete data, and not with abstract concepts like love, empathy, justice, and the like.

[Grenartia]

In case you didn't already see it, CMC's a total Poe.

Gren, I don't want you to be docked for Poe-naming so be careful please.

Is Poe-naming even an actual actionable offense?

[Distruzio]

Absolute bullshit.

In case you didn't already see it, CMC's a total Poe.

What does this mean, Gren? That's the second time I've seen you say it. I've no idea what you're saying.

[Neutraligon]

Gren, I don't want you to be docked for Poe-naming so be careful please.

Is Poe-naming even an actual actionable offense?

My guess is if it is used in the same sense as troll-naming (ie to stop discussion) then yes it probably is.

[Grenartia]

In case you didn't already see it, CMC's a total Poe.

What does this mean, Gren? That's the second time I've seen you say it. I've no idea what you're saying.

Poe's Law

This is the 4th time I've said "Poe" in this thread today, so in case you missed where I demonstrated the proof, I can link to that post.

[Lyttenburg]

There is no correct way to use "homosexualists" as it's a nonsense term. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an ideology.

Mmm... how about - no, it is.

I really don't like to link to my own posts, but, oh well...

[Neutraligon]

There is no correct way to use "homosexualists" as it's a nonsense term. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an ideology.

Mmm... how about - no, it is.

I really don't like to link to my own posts, but, oh well...

What is the purpose of using that word over homosexuality, the more commonly accepted word to mean the exact same thing?

[Dyakovo]

There is no correct way to use "homosexualists" as it's a nonsense term. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an ideology.

Mmm... how about - no, it is.

I really don't like to link to my own posts, but, oh well...

Repeating your bullshit doesn't make it true.

[Grenartia]

Is Poe-naming even an actual actionable offense?

My guess is if it is used in the same sense as troll-naming (ie to stop discussion) then yes it probably is.

Actually, IIRC, Moderation's stance on troll-naming is pretty strict, and only applies when your only posts in a thread are screaming "TROLL", and not contributing to the topic in any meaningful way.

[Distruzio]

What does this mean, Gren? That's the second time I've seen you say it. I've no idea what you're saying.

Poe's Law

This is the 4th time I've said "Poe" in this thread today, so in case you missed where I demonstrated the proof, I can link to that post.

So you're assuming that the Count is a parody?

[Neutraligon]

My guess is if it is used in the same sense as troll-naming (ie to stop discussion) then yes it probably is.

Actually, IIRC, Moderation's stance on troll-naming is pretty strict, and only applies when your only posts in a thread are screaming "TROLL", and not contributing to the topic in any meaningful way.

Hm, I've seen it used both ways, hence my caution.

[Dyakovo]

Mmm... how about - no, it is.

I really don't like to link to my own posts, but, oh well...

What is the purpose of using that word over homosexuality, the more commonly accepted word to mean the exact same thing?

To try and make it look like homosexuality is an ideology.