Your Opinion of Political Correctness

[Juristonia]

Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

And certain people feel that way about certain language used.
Funny coincidence.

[Cannot think of a name]

And people have a duty to show basic kindness and respect to other people. Far too often we frame political correctness (and too many other things) in terms of rights, but what of duties?

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

[Altarica]

Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

There is a difference between complaining and getting offended.

That's what this whole debate is about IMO. Many people simply don't agree with an issue but don't know the difference between disagreement and offence so they say that they have been offended when they haven't.

This is my libertarian viewpoint coming out here, though. The rights of the collective should never outweigh the rights o the individual.

[Viritica]

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

And certain people feel that way about certain language used.
Funny coincidence.

I know. Kinda sucks.

[Viritica]

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

[Altarica]

Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

Perfect example of the euphemism roundabout.

[Liriena]

My opinion is that most people don't seem to really understand what political correctness is. They tend to conflate it with criticism of discriminatory speech, or even with any hint of promotion of social acceptance of minorities, particularly sexual minorities.

I for one wholeheartedly support making needlessly malicious and hurtful expressions socially and culturally unacceptable.

[Keyboard Warriors]

1. See, if I had to summarize either of those two definitions in five words or less, I'd always end up with something similar to "don't be a dick". Those dictionary excerpts are just long winded, sophisticated ways of saying you should be nice to people and respect their feelings.That's all political correctness is, that's all it will ever be about and pretending it's about anything else is just plain dishonest.


2. It's also politically correct to use the word black. Unless a black person says "look, I don't like that word, can you call me this instead?" and then if you decide to be nice and call them something different, you're also being politically correct. Although most people would call that being reasonable.

1. Yes but the technical definition of something doesn't always have to be five words or fewer. I'd never dispute that the intent of political correctness was to both be nice to people and respect their feelings but its wrong to pretend its just that. Political Correctness is a means to create a "nicer" society but it does it through restriction and censorship there becomes an "official" PC language.

2. It is just being reasonable so why have a term politically correct unless of course it means something more than simply "being reasonable".

Look, if you're asking why the term "political correctness" exists in the first place when it could easily be replaced with combinations of several different words, I don't know. But what I do know is what the term actually means and obsessing over why it's called something when it could be called something else is pointless.

[Sdaeriji]

Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

[Sdaeriji]

Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

There is a difference between complaining and getting offended.

Please elaborate on the difference.

[Caninope]

And people have a duty to show basic kindness and respect to other people. Far too often we frame political correctness (and too many other things) in terms of rights, but what of duties?

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

[Koopaville]

Absolutely damn stupid.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

I'm not one of those people who think "illegal immigrant" is offensive. However, "illegal(s)" has become a racially charged attack at Latinos during all this 1 year-long debate spanning multiple networks (NS is not the only network that actually is debating immigration on the net).

It's why in debates I tend to correct people to use "illegal immigrant" if they must use a term that is not "undocumented immigrant".

[Viritica]

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

[Viritica]

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

[Sdaeriji]

So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Sure you did.

[Altarica]

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

I'm not one of those people who think "illegal immigrant" is offensive. However, "illegals" has become a racially charged attack at Latinos during all this 1 year-long debate spanning multiple networks (NS is not the only network that actually is debating immigration on the net).

It's why in debates I tend to correct people to use "illegal immigrant" if they must use a term that is not "undocumented immigrant".

I think part of the problem is a lot of racists call for an end to political correctness so they are free to abuse people. This causes people to think that PC is the lesser of two evils but people shouldn't live in fear of offending someone, it's becoming a little excessive in recent years IMO.

[MERIZoC]

So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Then don't complain when someone calls you out on being an asshole.

[Viritica]

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

I'm not one of those people who think "illegal immigrant" is offensive. However, "illegal(s)" has become a racially charged attack at Latinos during all this 1 year-long debate spanning multiple networks (NS is not the only network that actually is debating immigration on the net).

It's why in debates I tend to correct people to use "illegal immigrant" if they must use a term that is not "undocumented immigrant".

I can live with that. But there are people who would go so far as I go want to eliminate the term "illegal immigrant".

[Caninope]

Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

Under your logic, why not? Why should you have to convenience yourself with not insulting everyone you meet?

[Farnhamia]

Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

So you do filter what you say, you just resent being reminded that you should.

[Viritica]

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Then don't complain when someone calls you out on being an asshole.

Well, I like to think I have the right to defend myself from criticism.

[Viritica]

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

So you do filter what you say, you just resent being reminded that you should.

When it stretches to ridiculous lengths.

[MERIZoC]

Then don't complain when someone calls you out on being an asshole.

Well, I like to think I have the right to defend myself from criticism.

Of course you do. And people have the right to call other people "assholes" when they're racist, sexist, or whatever.

[Ucropi]

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

Under your logic, why not? Why should you have to convenience yourself with not insulting everyone you meet?

How do you people not understand that there is a difference between being allowed to do something and actually doing it?

Tomorrow murder could stop being illegal. Am I going to murder people? No.