What do you mean "in this instance"? It should never be tolerable.
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by Viritica » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:16 pm
by Rabotnikisoyedinennyye » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:18 pm
Kannap wrote:Article wrote:A 13-year-old boy was the most famous kid in school for a few weeks.
A simple pencil twirling incident landed Ethan Chaplin in hot water with his school, which threatened to suspend him after a classmate claimed he was spinning the writing utensil like a gun.
But after media attention from PIX11 and around the world, school officials backed off.
Letters to Ethan’s father, Michael, show the school found his son did nothing wrong at all, there would be no disciplinary action and the Superintendent was even confident the issue would be behind all of them.
And that’s exactly what happened, until Ethan’s father received startling communication from New Jersey’s Department of Child Protection and Permanency and Department of Children and Families.
“I received a letter from them saying they had found an incident of abuse or neglect regarding Ethan because I refused to take him for psychological evaluation,” Michael said.
In an effort to play along and clear his name, Michael did take his son to be evaluated.
Ethan was seen by a social worker, had his blood drawn and urine taken.
In the end, no behavioral problem was ever found.
The state, it seems, is ignoring that set of testing, demanding even more and this time if Michael doesn’t comply, they are threatening to terminate his parental rights and free Ethan up for adoption.
“All I can do is keep fighting. keep telling the truth and presenting the evidence. That is all I can do and hopefully the state does the right thing,” Michael said.
He has even reached out to Governor Chris Christie’s office, who replied they would contact the Dept. of Children and Families to investigate.
“…I’m scared because they have a habit of running away with things unchecked and that’s exactly what’s going on. They’re operating unchecking,” Michael said.
PIX11 tried to get a comment from DCPP and NJ Department of Children and Families but hit a road block there.
We were told they agency can’t discuss the allegations or even acknowledge they have involvement with the family.
http://wgntv.com/2014/06/11/dad-nj-thre ... -incident/
So, what do you think? Is the United States education system becoming worse each and every year? Are simple rules being wrongfully enforced? Should this student have been put through this ordeal for simply twirling a pencil? Since it is something that students across the nation twirl pencils, i'll admit my guiltiness of the "crime."
I hardly believe this child should have been put through this trouble because of simply twirling a pencil in class. Also, I don't see how it ever becomes serious enough for the state to threaten to take the child away from the father for being allowed to twirl a pencil in class.
by Libertarian California » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:10 pm
by Saruhan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:15 pm
Neoconstantius wrote:I used to pretend my pencils were missiles, should I have been interrogated for harboring WMDs?
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:16 pm
Rabotnikisoyedinennyye wrote:Kannap wrote:
http://wgntv.com/2014/06/11/dad-nj-thre ... -incident/
So, what do you think? Is the United States education system becoming worse each and every year? Are simple rules being wrongfully enforced? Should this student have been put through this ordeal for simply twirling a pencil? Since it is something that students across the nation twirl pencils, i'll admit my guiltiness of the "crime."
I hardly believe this child should have been put through this trouble because of simply twirling a pencil in class. Also, I don't see how it ever becomes serious enough for the state to threaten to take the child away from the father for being allowed to twirl a pencil in class.
Welp, I hate New Jersey now.
by Saruhan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:17 pm
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:18 pm
Saruhan wrote:At least I now understand all the American jokes about New Jersey
by Saruhan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:20 pm
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.
by Verdo-Releignia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:20 pm
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:25 pm
Saruhan wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:This is actually the kind of thing Florida usually does. New Jersey just sucks.
Meh, it's all the same to me anyway. People give Americans shit for not knowing about small divisions in other nations but I could name maybe 15, 20 at most of the States. New Jersey is in New England right?
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:27 pm
by Blazedtown » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:28 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:42 pm
Sevvania wrote:Kannap wrote:Meanwhile, in North Carolina:
"Pencil twirling looks like a gun? Make pencil twirling a mandatory course to graduate high school!"
Because proposed education programs in regards to safe handling and dispelling misinformation is equally ridiculous to the notion that pencil-twirling is the first sign of a mentally disturbed gunman.
It's a good thing he didn't point it vertically towards the sky, because he could have kicked off World War III.
by Oaledonia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:48 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:That is true. New Jersey would consider it a missile.
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by Cata Larga » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:51 pm
Kannap wrote:Is the United States education system becoming worse each and every year?
Are simple rules being wrongfully enforced?
Should this student have been put through this ordeal for simply twirling a pencil?
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by Nierr » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:53 pm
Spoder wrote:I know exactly what happened:
Ethan is a good, normal kid.
Kid X who reported him is an asshole.
Kid X doesn't like Ethan because of past events, so to spite him reports Ethan for the stupidest shit.
Or:
Kid X is a hard-ass left winger, who doesn't understand what fun is and who thinks that if somebody makes a finger gun, they will become a psychotic shooter.
by Draica » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:55 pm
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:56 pm
Draica wrote:This is insane. What is wrong with you people? What is wrong with these anti-gun people? What is wrong with New Jersey? What the heck?
by Nierr » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:57 pm
Tyriece wrote:My state does it yet again. This will get us on the map for sure!
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:03 pm
by Milograd » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:06 pm
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:07 pm
Milograd wrote:Nierr wrote:You're already on the map. There are no maps that New Jersey isn't on.
Speaking as a resident of New Jersey, you are actually wrong.
The State has recently mandated the removal of all appearances of New Jersey from maps of New Jersey within New Jersey borders because, regretfully, New Jersey resembles a Type 95 rifle whenever the state is turned on its side. This action was taken out of concern for the mental health and comfort of New Jersey Public School students and is wholly intended to protect the learning environment that is nurtured within the Garden State's renowned schooling system.
by Cata Larga » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:08 pm
Milograd wrote:Nierr wrote:You're already on the map. There are no maps that New Jersey isn't on.
Speaking as a resident of New Jersey, you are actually wrong.
The State has recently mandated the removal of all appearances of New Jersey from maps of New Jersey within New Jersey borders because, regretfully, New Jersey resembles a Type 95 rifle whenever the state is turned on its side. This action was taken out of concern for the mental health and comfort of New Jersey Public School students and is wholly intended to protect the learning environment that is nurtured within the Garden State's renowned schooling system.
Capital: Puerte-de-Liberete | Largest City: Kapa-Trinieta | Population: 97,370,679
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