Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Type 6

[Anemos Major]

Considering my MBT is armed with a 140 mm gun. In case of constructing a tank like the AVRE what caliber of gun should I mount on it?

The caliber of gun on your MBT is rather irrelevant to the caliber used on your engineering vehicle. They're designed for completely different purposes.

I suppose it could be partly relevant if you're trying to retrofit the demolition gun into a minimally modified standard production turret.

Or maybe I'm just being nitpicky and annoying.

[Premislyd]

How much elan increase could one get from switching modern armor nomenclature back to cavalry nomenclature?

~22% of existing.

Seems worth it then

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Gallan_Army

all cavalry army

wow

stole my idea

[Krasny-Volny]

yes to both

Ok, time to go oppress liberate various third world countries/USA ripoffs and steal their M113's.

BMP-1 and BMP-3 turrets have also been fitted on M113s before:




And of course, one of the stranger hybrids I've seen: a BMP-2 built on an M113 chassis:

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/M113/M113A3_BMP-2.jpg

[Gallia-]

In what world is vis modding for training purposes strange?

~22% of existing.

Seems worth it then

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Gallan_Army

all cavalry army

wow

stole my idea

1) It's not it's infinitesimally small, actually.

2) Yeah I've been doing it for a while tbh.

[Premislyd]

It's not it's infinitesimally small, actually.

22% increase seems reasonable, imo

[Oaledonia]

Ok, time to go oppress liberate various third world countries/USA ripoffs and steal their M113's.

BMP-1 and BMP-3 turrets have also been fitted on M113s before:




And of course, one of the stranger hybrids I've seen: a BMP-2 built on an M113 chassis:

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/M113/M113A3_BMP-2.jpg

The top one is an AIFV /beingAnal

[The Great Sioux Confederacy]

We only operate a small number of light vehicles, because of our small size and budget. These are principally M151 Jeeps, supplemented by a number of CJ-5/6 civilian Jeeps. Armored vehicles are limited to a few dozen Eland-20s, -60s, and -90s.

[Gallia-]

M113 and AIFV are basically the same.

[The Fascist American Empire]

We prefer to use the T-34 tank in armoured combat, as well as the 88mm Artillery Gun for long distance targeting. Yes, I'm stuck in the 40's, I don't care.

[The Great Sioux Confederacy]

We prefer to use the T-34 tank in armoured combat, as well as the 88mm Artillery Gun for long distance targeting. Yes, I'm stuck in the 40's, I don't care.

Why no 100mm BS-3, considering you already use Soviet tanks.

[Alduinium]

So, how many upgraded T-72m's with 120mm L/44 and ERA does it take to kill an M1A2?

[Gvozdevsk]

How much troop capacity would putting a BMP-2 turret on an M113 or MT-LB take away? I was thinking they could be a low cost IFV for reserve mechanized formations and/or for use in the case of a mass mobilization.

[Alduinium]

How much troop capacity would putting a BMP-2 turret on an M113 or MT-LB take away? I was thinking they could be a low cost IFV for reserve mechanized formations and/or for use in the case of a mass mobilization.

I plan to use a heavily modernized MT-LB around large portions of my nation, mainly since the terrain in said portions can be best described as 'frozen hellholes'.

[Kouralia]

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Silly Krasny. That's not an M113.

[Krasny-Volny]

How much troop capacity would putting a BMP-2 turret on an M113 or MT-LB take away? I was thinking they could be a low cost IFV for reserve mechanized formations and/or for use in the case of a mass mobilization.

Probably not that much, though as a general rule vehicles deployed specifically for fire support or other non-carrier duties carry less passengers. M113's normal capacity is 11, right? Means you can carry at least 9 embarked infantry.

[Gvozdevsk]

I'm looking for a tracked IFV to equip my naval infantry. So far I'm looking at the BMP-3M and K21 as the main contenders. Anything else I should look at? Needs to be amphibious, have an autocannon and ATGMs.

[Sediczja]

Hurray for bland-ass notBRDM-2s!



The PZV (Pansari Zwiady Vozidlo, armoured reconnaissance vehicle) is a Sediczjan light armoured reconnaissance vehicle. Consisting of a thin-skinned hull capable of protecting against small-arms fire and artillery shrapnel and a turret identical to that of the PTR-P, the vehicle is employed in the reconnaissance role. The hull itself forms the basis of many variants, including a mortar carrier and an ATGM platform.

[Casterland]

my army has about 45,000 men, 3,900 tanks, and 6,000 ground vehicles.

[Gvozdevsk]

my army has about 45,000 men, 3,900 tanks, and 6,000 ground vehicles.

Tanks are ground vehicles so I hope you're including them in that total of 6000 ground vehicles. Also assuming 4 crew tanks and the remaining 2100 "ground vehicles" have two man crews, almost half of your army are vehicle crews. That's not how armies work.

Now if you actually count tanks and "ground vehicles" as a separate thing, assuming the same four man tank crews and two man "ground vehicle" crews, 27,600 of your total army personnel are vehicle crews. That's also not how armies work. If you want to know how armies actually work, check the military realism thread.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

The caliber of gun on your MBT is rather irrelevant to the caliber used on your engineering vehicle. They're designed for completely different purposes.

I suppose it could be partly relevant if you're trying to retrofit the demolition gun into a minimally modified standard production turret.

Or maybe I'm just being nitpicky and annoying.

The plan is to go with the standard production turret yes.

[Imperializt Russia]

How much troop capacity would putting a BMP-2 turret on an M113 or MT-LB take away? I was thinking they could be a low cost IFV for reserve mechanized formations and/or for use in the case of a mass mobilization.

Probably not that much, though as a general rule vehicles deployed specifically for fire support or other non-carrier duties carry less passengers. M113's normal capacity is 11, right? Means you can carry at least 9 embarked infantry.

It actually cuts quite a bit of interior room out. The troop layout of any of the BMP series and also the Bradley are testament to this.

[Krasny-Volny]

I'm looking for a tracked IFV to equip my naval infantry. So far I'm looking at the BMP-3M and K21 as the main contenders. Anything else I should look at? Needs to be amphibious, have an autocannon and ATGMs.

Why is it necessary to have an autocannon?

BMP-3M's main armament is semiautomatic.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'm looking for a tracked IFV to equip my naval infantry. So far I'm looking at the BMP-3M and K21 as the main contenders. Anything else I should look at? Needs to be amphibious, have an autocannon and ATGMs.

Why is it necessary to have an autocannon?

BMP-3M's main armament is semiautomatic.

The autocannon is probably used against a wider variety of targets and more frequently, which would technically make it the primary armament.

[Rich and Corporations]

A six pounder gun with a sliding block semi-auto breech, manual loading, would be good for a variety of targets combined with airburst capability.

[Imperializt Russia]

A six pounder gun with a sliding block semi-auto breech, manual loading, would be good for a variety of targets combined with airburst capability.

57mm guns are perfectly fine as autoloaded weapons.