by Greed and Death » Mon May 05, 2014 10:47 am
by Brilliant Equestria » Mon May 05, 2014 11:00 am
greed and death wrote:I think this is the right decision, maybe a tad more expansive then I would have liked. Law students rejoice you might not have to learn the endorsement test now.
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 11:14 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Kelinfort » Mon May 05, 2014 11:20 am
Brilliant Equestria wrote:What a surprise, another 5-4 SCOTUS decision split along purely ideological lines.greed and death wrote:I think this is the right decision, maybe a tad more expansive then I would have liked. Law students rejoice you might not have to learn the endorsement test now.
No, but you do have to learn the coercion test instead. That means they're allowed to make religion as public as they want as long as they aren't actually coercing you into practicing it. Hell, Thomas and Scalia ruled they can totally coerce you as long as they aren't legally forcing you to!
by Great Nepal » Mon May 05, 2014 11:21 am
by Neutraligon » Mon May 05, 2014 11:40 am
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 11:44 am
Great Nepal wrote:Yes I totally cant see how a prayer led by a clergy, in majority of cases Christian clergy, is endorsement of religion at all.
I wonder how many times they have called Atheist to open the assembly or how many times they called a Hindu pujari or Buddhist monk or Muslim imam...
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Death Metal » Mon May 05, 2014 11:48 am
by Great Nepal » Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am
Murkwood wrote:Great Nepal wrote:Yes I totally cant see how a prayer led by a clergy, in majority of cases Christian clergy, is endorsement of religion at all.
I wonder how many times they have called Atheist to open the assembly or how many times they called a Hindu pujari or Buddhist monk or Muslim imam...
People volunteered. If a Hindu or Muslim wanted to, they would let them.
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 11:51 am
Great Nepal wrote:Murkwood wrote:People volunteered. If a Hindu or Muslim wanted to, they would let them.
No, people were invited: "the body may invite anyone in the community to give a prayer, (if it has the money) could have a paid chaplain", I want to know when they invited Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or an Atheist...
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Greed and Death » Mon May 05, 2014 11:53 am
Neutraligon wrote:how is a town prayer session any different from a prayer session before the start of a game in high school?
by Great Nepal » Mon May 05, 2014 11:53 am
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 11:54 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Neutraligon » Mon May 05, 2014 11:56 am
greed and death wrote:Neutraligon wrote:how is a town prayer session any different from a prayer session before the start of a game in high school?
OR any different than the US Congressional Prayer, or State legislature prayer ?
My guess is the age of the people involved. Adults are assumed to be more mature and less subject to coercion than children.
by Neutraligon » Mon May 05, 2014 11:58 am
by European Socialist Republic » Mon May 05, 2014 11:58 am
by Great Nepal » Mon May 05, 2014 11:59 am
by Murkwood » Mon May 05, 2014 12:00 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Greed and Death » Mon May 05, 2014 12:01 pm
Neutraligon wrote:greed and death wrote:OR any different than the US Congressional Prayer, or State legislature prayer ?
My guess is the age of the people involved. Adults are assumed to be more mature and less subject to coercion than children.
I would assume that people at the state legislature or in the US congress are both adults...I think.
by European Socialist Republic » Mon May 05, 2014 12:02 pm
by Neutraligon » Mon May 05, 2014 12:04 pm
by Threlizdun » Mon May 05, 2014 12:07 pm
by Greed and Death » Mon May 05, 2014 12:08 pm
Threlizdun wrote:SCOTUS fails to enforce the separation of church and state again. How unsurprising.
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