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Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Blowersapion » Thu May 21, 2009 2:05 pm

I need to know some easy ways to Defeat nations in a roleplay game :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



:twisted :lol


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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby North Wiedna » Thu May 21, 2009 2:10 pm

Blowersapion wrote:I need to know some easy ways to Defeat nations in a roleplay game :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



:twisted :lol

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Grays Harbor » Thu May 21, 2009 2:16 pm

Blowersapion wrote:I need to know some easy ways to Defeat nations in a roleplay game :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



:twisted :lol


ummm........overwhelm them with superfluous smilies until they surrender?
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu May 21, 2009 2:18 pm

*smiles broadly at the originator of the post*
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Fatatatutti » Thu May 21, 2009 2:20 pm

Living well is the best revenge.

If your enemy nukes you, ignore him back to the stone age. Then throw a party to demonstrate that there was no damage.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Cukarica » Thu May 21, 2009 2:51 pm

The best way to win is to drop transvestite paratroopers behind enemy lines.

Nothing more scarier then hairy men in dresses fall from the sky.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Tina Fey » Thu May 21, 2009 2:56 pm

Nuke and ICBM spam?

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Santheres » Thu May 21, 2009 2:59 pm

Nuke and ICBM spam can be shot down or otherwise removed from play.

Fatatatutti's suggestion is probably the best real answer.
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Crookfur » Thu May 21, 2009 3:06 pm

The easiest way to guarantee a "win" is to write novel length posts and include every intimate detail of what your characters are going through. If you can pull that off you will win because people will simply give up. The possible down fall is if you write about any whiny teenagers or anything resembly an anime character you automatically loose.
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Pevisopolis » Thu May 21, 2009 3:19 pm

Crookfur wrote:The easiest way to guarantee a "win" is to write novel length posts and include every intimate detail of what your characters are going through. If you can pull that off you will win because people will simply give up. The possible down fall is if you write about any whiny teenagers or anything resembly an anime character you automatically loose.

lol, I'm working on that right now. Making a word document with the intense militarization of my nation in it :twisted: So far, it's about 1 1/2 pages, intending for it to be about 2 :shock:
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Santheres » Thu May 21, 2009 3:24 pm

Crookfur's suggestion also places high on the list.

Pevisopolis, two pages isn't really all that much if you're going for something detailed and deep. Granted, quantity of writing does not by any means equal quality writing, nor does technically proficient writing at all automatically equal good RPing -- and sometimes not even good fiction writing (both things that a good number of older RPers, and some newer ones, need to learn) -- but if your goal is something that is practically a story unto itself, then two pages is a bit short.
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Treznor » Thu May 21, 2009 3:26 pm

Santheres wrote:Crookfur's suggestion also places high on the list.

Pevisopolis, two pages isn't really all that much if you're going for something detailed and deep. Granted, quantity of writing does not by any means equal quality writing, nor does technically proficient writing at all automatically equal good RPing -- and sometimes not even good fiction writing (both things that a good number of older RPers, and some newer ones, need to learn) -- but if your goal is something that is practically a story unto itself, then two pages is a bit short.


Yeah, what he said.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Thu May 21, 2009 3:30 pm

Actually, the length of posts needs to also be balanced well with the quality of the post. Every post need not be a novel. Some people can and do make long posts, others do not - so long as the post is pertinent and carries the message intended, that really is good enough.

Part of the problem with overlong posts that aren't solid background, and do require interaction, is that you deny other players the opportunity to respond when they might. A good sense of 'timing' helps - knowing when to pause, and allow responses from your fellow storytellers.

And for those who really don't enjoy that sort of thing at all, aside from "I glass your nation to the stone age, post losses" ... I really don't know what to tell you.

We all either enhance, or limit our opportunities for rp with others depending on our styles of writing, and our choices in interaction. There's a space out there for pretty much anyone who makes decent attempts, I figure.

But to sum - no, there is no 'easy' way of 'winning' the game.

In fact, the only real 'win' is if you come away at the end of your online session feeling good about what you've done, and that your time here hasn't been a complete and utter waste.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby H2SO4 » Thu May 21, 2009 7:22 pm

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New. Received: 1 day ago Shall you defy me i will send another 400 troops and a Swordsman, a Super Soldier, and 15 ninjas

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I suppose one way to beat them would be to NOT discuss your strategies in a forum where your opponent can read everything. Also, pick someone who roleplays - i.e. not me.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Justorica » Thu May 21, 2009 7:31 pm

There is only one way. Buy some platypuses, platypus launchers, toasters, and beavers with rabies. While your soldiers distract the enemy by launching platypuses and them, you drop the rabid beavers and toasters on them from above.

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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Cats Keep » Thu May 21, 2009 7:42 pm

In all seriousness there are two posters here that have given some decent advice, the rest - crap, and I'm not afraid to call them on it.

The Dread Lady speaks most wisely, as does Crookfur.

I'm getting very tired of the n00bish postings of a lot of people here - the OP may have included far too many smilies, but damn it give him some honest and helpful answers or don't post.

There are some very good war rps / rpers out there. One very good thing to do is read some of the good rps, see how the posts flow, are paced,

And use proper English, grammar and spelling – the spell checker is your friend – smilies are not ( even in moderation they can ruin a serious post / enquiry.
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Grays Harbor » Thu May 21, 2009 7:59 pm

Cats Keep wrote:In all seriousness there are two posters here that have given some decent advice, the rest - crap, and I'm not afraid to call them on it.

The Dread Lady speaks most wisely, as does Crookfur.

I'm getting very tired of the n00bish postings of a lot of people here - the OP may have included far too many smilies, but damn it give him some honest and helpful answers or don't post.

There are some very good war rps / rpers out there. One very good thing to do is read some of the good rps, see how the posts flow, are paced,

And use proper English, grammar and spelling – the spell checker is your friend – smilies are not ( even in moderation they can ruin a serious post / enquiry.


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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Third Spanish States » Thu May 21, 2009 8:13 pm

Cats Keep wrote:give him some honest and helpful answers or don't post.


Well, if you want things "easy", and if such "easy" also includes not wanting to read and post more than four lines to "defeat a nation", then NS roleplay is definitively not going to be a good option for you, and you won't like it at all. I think you might prefer playing a RTS game with all cheats turned on. That's the easiest way to defeat a nation in a game.

NationStates however, is in essence a multiplayer game both in its gameplay mechanics and roleplay, and like in all forms of multiplayer games, there is little tolerance for cheating*.

*Posting absurd claims of "I WIN" that not even the cheapest action and war movies would have in their plot is what would be cheating in NS. It is also known here as godmodding(because it's essentially like using a "god mode" cheat in a traditional multiplayer game, which would get you banned from its server).
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 21, 2009 9:58 pm

Third Spanish States wrote:*Posting absurd claims of "I WIN" that not even the cheapest action and war movies would have in their plot is what would be cheating in NS. It is also known here as godmodding(because it's essentially like using a "god mode" cheat in a traditional multiplayer game, which would get you banned from its server).

Not to mention it's a real good way to be completely ignored by other players, essentially putting you in a different universe entirely from them. That's the big catch to NS roleplay- you can get away with anything you want.... if you can convince the other players that you can. Well-written posts, reasonable storylines/military information, and so on are far more likely to convince other people to play with you than "I send x soldiers, y tanks and planes, z spies, and n nukes!"

A common response to "I declare war on you and launch 9,999,999 nuclear missiles!" can go something like this paraphrase of some oldschool IGNORE:
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Essentially, you can't force anyone to play with you; you can only play against people who want to play against you... and an 'easy win' isn't very fun nor appealing to most people.

As others have advised, lurk around the forums, read some existing RPs, see how they progress. If you want to play war RPs, lurk around and check out existing war threads, get a feel for how different groups and different styles of play are used. Not everyone is into war RP; some folks are into character stories, economic/diplomatic dealings, and occasionally the classic adventure. There's a lot to do out there, and no real way to defeat anyone, let alone easily!
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Anmhonm (Ancient) » Thu May 21, 2009 10:06 pm

Hey, Reploid Productions, nice cannon! Maybe you can make something for a nation's deletion like the Death Star!
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 21, 2009 10:11 pm

Anmhonm wrote:Hey, Reploid Productions, nice cannon! Maybe you can make something for a nation's deletion like the Death Star!

That would be the I.G.N.O.R.E. Supercannon Mk-VI, nicknamed the "Saturn Gun" :lol:
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby The Emmerian Unions » Thu May 21, 2009 10:36 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:That would be the I.G.N.O.R.E. Supercannon Mk-VI, nicknamed the "Saturn Gun" :lol:
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 21, 2009 11:19 pm

The complete history of the I.G.N.O.R.E. Supercannon and probably part of why Doga became such a popular tool for NS players to design their stuff with! :lol:

But to stay vaguely on topic; people have fallen out of the habit of creatively ignoring people by coming up with 'ignore' weapons like my cannons, or the defunct Slaglandic Really Freakin' Huge Cannon of Justice, and other inventive acronymns for "ignore", but the point stands to the OP that if you annoy people, they will get irate and won't want to play with you.

... Which is really counterproductive to defeating anybody
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Re: Easy way to defeat nation

Postby Ardchoille » Thu May 21, 2009 11:31 pm

If weapons don't appeal, a subtle interpretative dance or even a really intricate mime can often convey a firm "ignore" message.
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