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Postby Orla » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:15 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.


And what about the Fascists that have been beaten up as a result of their addresses being posted on leftists boards?

That isn't right, either.
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Postby Buddha Punk Robot Monks » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:15 pm

Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:15 pm

Orla wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
And what about the Fascists that have been beaten up as a result of their addresses being posted on leftists boards?

That isn't right, either.


Glad we can agree on something then.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Gigaverse wrote:Torture them all. Burn their houses. Hold their families hostages. Give them fates worse than death.

> I'm evil. Don't judge me.


You're also trolling. *** Warned for trolling ***
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.

You mean little Hitlers?
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Postby Orla » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Orla wrote:That isn't right, either.


Glad we can agree on something then.

Bullying just isn't right. These racists are bullies, no different than Anonymous. I am not bringing politics into this.
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Postby Independent Canterbury » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Used to have a account. Good bunch of racially aware people.
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Postby Chestaan » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:17 pm

Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.


Hitler was a vegetarian to, although probably for different reasons.
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Postby Orla » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:17 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:Used to have a account. Good bunch of racially aware people.

I am not sure that's something to be proud of.
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Postby Buddha Punk Robot Monks » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:17 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.

You mean little Hitlers?

Yeah, except Hitler wasn't a very consistent vegetarian RL.
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Postby Dejanic » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:18 pm

Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.

There's a pretty big economic divide on Stormfront also, with some supporting Fascist Corporatist economics, some National Socialism, and some free market Capitalism. It can be interesting to see them debate.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:18 pm

Orla wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
Glad we can agree on something then.

Bullying just isn't right. These racists are bullies, no different than Anonymous. I am not bringing politics into this.


I agree, racists are bullies but anti-racists can also be bullies too. Everyone of both sides of the argument can be bullies.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:18 pm

Chestaan wrote:
Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.


Hitler was a vegetarian to, although probably for different reasons.

Hitler was a vegetarian because he thought it would make him look compassionate.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:18 pm

Keep this thread civil. Take the time to re-read what you post before you post it.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:Used to have a account. Good bunch of racially aware people.

Tell me you ain't serious? There's nothing good about racism or homophobia.

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Postby Vetalia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I agree with this, "hate speech" alone shouldn't be a crime. The thing is, Stormfront has gone beyond the realm of pure speech with its connections to real life murders. I view shutting down Stormfront as almost like shutting down a criminal organization.


If they're actively involved in aiding and abetting crimes I agree 100%, e.g. if Stormfront provides personal information about its posters to aid in tracking them down and harming them. I would also agree if their policies are so lax that they allow anyone to get that kind of information.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:Used to have a account. Good bunch of racially aware people.

Stormfront is about as far as you can get from a "good bunch" of people.

And "racially aware" seems to be a euphemism for racist.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Honestly, if you're going to waste your time posting there, you should at least try and make them change their views. Like, you know, explain why racism and homophobia are bad, instead of just feeding their hate for non-whites and non-heterosexuals through trolling.

I'd rather not post their in the first place. But regardless, most of these people are middle aged White Nationalist militants with a long family history of racism and fascism, there parents raised them this way, and they've raised their children in these ways. It's going to take more than a forum post to dissuade them.


That's sad.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Orla wrote:The people on Stormfront are usually racist white trash, they are intolerant, racist, sexist, and homophobic. It's best we just delete the site.


And you are calling them racist?

White trash is a derogatory term toward poor whites, not really whites in general. It makes fun of their class rather than their race.

You think Stormfront isn't racist?
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
And you are calling them racist?

White trash is a derogatory term toward poor whites, not really whites in general. It makes fun of their class rather than their race.

You think Stormfront isn't racist?


I didn't say that Stormfront wasn't racist. They obviously are.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I agree with this, "hate speech" alone shouldn't be a crime. The thing is, Stormfront has gone beyond the realm of pure speech with its connections to real life murders. I view shutting down Stormfront as almost like shutting down a criminal organization.


If they're actively involved in aiding and abetting crimes I agree 100%, e.g. if Stormfront provides personal information about its posters to aid in tracking them down and harming them. I would also agree if their policies are so lax that they allow anyone to get that kind of information.

They should be monitored by the FBI for a little while and then shut down if found to be actively involved in the crimes.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I agree with this, "hate speech" alone shouldn't be a crime. The thing is, Stormfront has gone beyond the realm of pure speech with its connections to real life murders. I view shutting down Stormfront as almost like shutting down a criminal organization.


If they're actively involved in aiding and abetting crimes I agree 100%, e.g. if Stormfront provides personal information about its posters to aid in tracking them down and harming them. I would also agree if their policies are so lax that they allow anyone to get that kind of information.

If stories like this are true, then they are already doing the things you describe.
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Postby Buddha Punk Robot Monks » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Hitler was a vegetarian to, although probably for different reasons.

Hitler was a vegetarian because he thought it would make him look compassionate.

Hitler wasn't a vegetarian by most modern standards, but he nursed the rumour that he was because it helped symbolize his connection to the German land and pagan spiritualism.
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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Chestaan wrote:
Buddha Punk Robot Monks wrote:Its also weird, you can find strange vegetarian Aryan racists on Stormfront too. They say meat pollutes their Aryan blood.


Hitler was a vegetarian to, although probably for different reasons.

Other sources say he wasn't, at least not a strict vegetarian.

He apparently enjoyed squab on occasion, according to some.

His diet means little to nothing, however.
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Postby Dejanic » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:21 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Dejanic wrote:I'd rather not post their in the first place. But regardless, most of these people are middle aged White Nationalist militants with a long family history of racism and fascism, there parents raised them this way, and they've raised their children in these ways. It's going to take more than a forum post to dissuade them.


That's sad.

Yeah, you should read there "homeschooling" section, most of the parents their fully homeschool their kids and inject a healthy dosage of "White Nationalist history" into their child's education. It's pretty sick and I'm surprised national governments haven't taken the time to investigate some of these parents.
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