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[SUMBITTED] Condemn the Confederacy of Allied States

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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:51 am

SkyDip wrote:
Lemongrad Union wrote:Major exaggeration.

No, it really isn't. You think your case is so special as to to deserve attention from the Security Council, yet the only argument you have is suppression of free speech and a non-domecratic government? Simply laughable.

It's not "my" case. Controlled Interests wrote this. Ask him.
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby SkyDip » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:53 am

Lemongrad Union wrote:
SkyDip wrote:No, it really isn't. You think your case is so special as to to deserve attention from the Security Council, yet the only argument you have is suppression of free speech and a non-domecratic government? Simply laughable.

It's not "my" case. Controlled Interests wrote this. Ask him.

Feel free to stop responding whenever you want, then. :eyebrow:
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Bodobol » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:21 am

Basically, there is one major reason I cannot bring myself to support this proposal- the Security Council Condemnation Board focuses on regions that have caused interregional horrors- this dispute is purely intraregional. While threats were made toward Madrigal, I don't see that as very condemnable; especially when you consider Madrigal has a Founder.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:44 am

1. Proposal removed for Rule 4 violations.
2. This thread is for discussing the proposal only. Chat and other irrelevant discussion will be punished with warnings if it continues.

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Postby Ikania » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:51 am

Proposal... removed. Shit guys, we need to do this again without mentioning 'him'.
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:54 am

Ikania wrote:Proposal... removed. Shit guys, we need to do this again without mentioning 'him'.

We're on it.

Thanks SkyDip for forewarning us. ;)
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby Ikania » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:54 am

Lemongrad Union wrote:
Ikania wrote:Proposal... removed. Shit guys, we need to do this again without mentioning 'him'.

We're on it.

Thanks SkyDip for forewarning us. ;)

Do you want me to submit it this time?
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:56 am

Ikania wrote:
Lemongrad Union wrote:We're on it.

Thanks SkyDip for forewarning us. ;)

Do you want me to submit it this time?

Ask FCI or Aden. I would be down with you doing it though. :)
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby Ikania » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:58 am

Lemongrad Union wrote:
Ikania wrote:Do you want me to submit it this time?

Ask FCI or Aden. I would be down with you doing it though. :)

Thanks mate.
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:02 am

Ikania wrote:
Lemongrad Union wrote:Ask FCI or Aden. I would be down with you doing it though. :)

Thanks mate.

One of them is going to submit soon, you'd better ask fast.
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Postby Ikania » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:06 am

Lemongrad Union wrote:
Ikania wrote:Thanks mate.

One of them is going to submit soon, you'd better ask fast.

It's okay.
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Postby Commanche » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:21 am

When will you put it back in as a proposal?

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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:22 am

Commanche wrote:When will you put it back in as a proposal?

After we fix a few problems with it and add some more things.
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby Ancian » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:32 am

Now, i suppose.
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Postby Controlled Interests » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:36 am

SkyDip wrote:
Lemongrad Union wrote:Major exaggeration.

No, it really isn't. You think your case is so special as to to deserve attention from the Security Council, yet the only argument you have is suppression of free speech and a non-domecratic government? Simply laughable.


Okay now Skydip there's no reason to be mean to other people (or be an NS-elitist for that matter). I ask you, what is the purpose of the Security Council? IRL, the Security Council would handle every single security issue, if it had time. Unfortunately real life SC has no such time. They take months to pass resolutions, and sometimes can't even fully agree on what to do. However, NS SC has the fortunate ability of being able to pass an approved resolution in a few days. So seemingly "smaller" issues not just affecting the few blocs that you are talking about have the opportunity to be taken and judged. Unless, of course, you want to waste the benefits of NS SC by attempting to replicate real-life SC politics, in which case it would be a major failure at any rate in terms of authenticity.

Now, this case is special. CAS has managed to break every single rule regarding how a region should NOT act when having a revolution. This resolution can be seen as a a precedent. CAS not only undemocratically removed its delegate, but also abruptly decided to threaten attack upon an observer region. Small budding regions do look to CAS, and when they see a region acting like this, it's naturally not a good example or representation for the rest of the NS world. So we're fine starting small. Because a precedent has to be set somewhere, and this is where we have decided will be set.
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:58 pm

Alright, we're a third of the way there.
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby Ramaeus » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:04 pm

Controlled Interests wrote:<snip>

Lol! Ejecting one nation during a "revolution" and being nondemocratic hardly qualify as being nefarious. If you want to see how a region should not act during a revolution, look at the Pacific under Francos Spain's time as delegate.

As an aside, you're not listening to what SkyDip has to say? The guy has been around for years and passed 9 resolutions. Two in the past year. It's stupid to brush off or ignore his critiques/advice.
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Postby Controlled Interests » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:08 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
Controlled Interests wrote:<snip>

Lol! Ejecting one nation during a "revolution" and being nondemocratic hardly qualify as being nefarious. If you want to see how a region should not act during a revolution, look at the Pacific under Francos Spain's time as delegate.

As an aside, you're not listening to what SkyDip has to say? The guy has been around for years and passed 9 resolutions. Two in the past year. It's stupid to brush off or ignore his critiques/advice.

I'm not brushing them off, I'm stating my reasoning. Besides, I've worked at the UN before...I guess that gives me some experience.
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Postby Jerusalemian » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:13 pm

If it's not too late, I approve this.

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Postby Controlled Interests » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:14 pm

Jerusalemian wrote:If it's not too late, I approve this.

*Co-Founder of CAS

Thank you! If you're the WAD of a region, you can approve it on the WA proposals page.
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:14 pm

Jerusalemian wrote:If it's not too late, I approve this.

*Co-Founder of CAS

How are you the cofounder?
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Postby Zakiristan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:15 pm

Lemongrad Union wrote:
Jerusalemian wrote:If it's not too late, I approve this.

*Co-Founder of CAS

How are you the cofounder?

*Cough* Helped found CAS with Unovia *Cough*
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Postby Lemongrad Union » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:19 pm

Zakiristan wrote:
Lemongrad Union wrote:How are you the cofounder?

*Cough* Helped found CAS with Unovia *Cough*

I did not know you were Jerusalemian. Wow.
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Ambroscus Koth wrote:What self-respecting region would willingly join an alliance with CAS?

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Postby Zakiristan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:20 pm

Lemongrad Union wrote:
Zakiristan wrote:*Cough* Helped found CAS with Unovia *Cough*

I did not know you were Jerusalemian. Wow.

I have allot of puppets so it might confuse people from time to time.
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Erm... ok then...
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Come ere Ublia! :hug:


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Postby Ancian » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:37 pm

What happened??? :meh:
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