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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
Total votes : 159

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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:40 pm

CV-90 120T. Any good?
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:41 pm

Novorden wrote:
Ea90 wrote:all of my yes-es

give a few years and it may have a 40mm cannon and electric armour.

40mm CTA is most defintiely coming and IIRC is actually fully funded, electric armour went pretty much dead or at least ultra secret squirril after its first tech demo test on warrior.


Anyway roflign at the ad i just noticed in MMI: a pair of hellcats and a chaffee in full working order (the chaffee even has live gun assembly if you live in the states and a demilled assembly for those of us else where).

price for all three: $975,000...
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Lydenburg
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Postby Lydenburg » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:09 pm

Ragnarum wrote:CV-90 120T. Any good?


Personally, I thought it was too heavy for an IFV - but that would depend on your doctrine and operational style.

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:59 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:CV-90 120T. Any good?


Personally, I thought it was too heavy for an IFV - but that would depend on your doctrine and operational style.


Big gun, good range, fast enough and pretty modifiable.

Looks good to me.
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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:01 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:
Personally, I thought it was too heavy for an IFV - but that would depend on your doctrine and operational style.


Big gun, good range, fast enough and pretty modifiable.

Looks good to me.

Just buy a main battle tank. Same purpose but more suited to its task.

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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:04 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
Big gun, good range, fast enough and pretty modifiable.

Looks good to me.

Just buy a main battle tank. Same purpose but more suited to its task.


But this thing is faster and has a better range. I believe its cheaper too.
I think you can get a 120mm version air droppable as well, so that's good another purpose.
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Riysa
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Postby Riysa » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:06 pm

Thoughts on a 15cm RAVEN gun?

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Postby Novorden » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:06 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Just buy a main battle tank. Same purpose but more suited to its task.


But this thing is faster and has a better range. I believe its cheaper too.
I think you can get a 120mm version air droppable as well, so that's good another purpose.

If you use the CV90 already go for it, if not it's not worth buying it just for the 120mm.

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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:08 pm

Novorden wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
But this thing is faster and has a better range. I believe its cheaper too.
I think you can get a 120mm version air droppable as well, so that's good another purpose.

If you use the CV90 already go for it, if not it's not worth buying it just for the 120mm.


The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.
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Postby Novorden » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:14 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Novorden wrote:If you use the CV90 already go for it, if not it's not worth buying it just for the 120mm.


The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.

Image
If you want tank hunter/killer abilities just strap some ATGMs to your existing vehicles

The one in the video/picture is using the BILL 2 top attack missile, with two vertically striking warheads.

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Yupun
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Postby Yupun » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:15 pm

Armored Cars:
*BA-64 Armoured Car
*M1097 Heavy HMMWV Avenger
*M1114 Armament Carrier
*M1152 Capable HMMWV
*M1165 HMMWV
*M1167 TOW Carrier
*M997 Maxi-Ambulance
*M998 Cargo/Troop Transport
*Sd.Kfz. 234/4 Puma
*Type 93 Armoured Car

Ground Vehicles:
*BM-30 Smerch (RA-30: Rocket Artillery)
*BMP-3F (IFV-3F: Amphibious IFV)
*Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz (AA-IV: Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft)
*Hummel IV (SPG-IV: Self-Propelled Gun Artillery)
*StuG IV (TD-IV: Tank Destroyer)
*Sturmpanzer IV (AG-IV: Assault Gun)
*T-10M Heavy Tank (HT-10M: Heavy Tank)
*T-55A MBT (MBT-55A: Main Battle Tank)
*Type 2 Ho-I (ST-2 Ho-I: Support Tank)
*Type 4 Ke-Nu (LT-4 Ke-Nu: Light Tank)

Everything else is in Signature link! 8)

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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Yupun wrote:Armored Cars:
*BA-64 Armoured Car
*M1097 Heavy HMMWV Avenger
*M1114 Armament Carrier
*M1152 Capable HMMWV
*M1165 HMMWV
*M1167 TOW Carrier
*M997 Maxi-Ambulance
*M998 Cargo/Troop Transport
*Sd.Kfz. 234/4 Puma
*Type 93 Armoured Car

Ground Vehicles:
*BM-30 Smerch (RA-30: Rocket Artillery)
*BMP-3F (IFV-3F: Amphibious IFV)
*Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz (AA-IV: Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft)
*Hummel IV (SPG-IV: Self-Propelled Gun Artillery)
*StuG IV (TD-IV: Tank Destroyer)
*Sturmpanzer IV (AG-IV: Assault Gun)
*T-10M Heavy Tank (HT-10M: Heavy Tank)
*T-55A MBT (MBT-55A: Main Battle Tank)
*Type 2 Ho-I (ST-2 Ho-I: Support Tank)
*Type 4 Ke-Nu (LT-4 Ke-Nu: Light Tank)

Everything else is in Signature link! 8)

You're using a mix of German, Soviet, Japanese, and American tech that dates a long timeline as well.

How much of a clusterfuck is your logistical and supply force?
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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Novorden wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.

Image
If you want tank hunter/killer abilities just strap some ATGMs to your existing vehicles

The one in the video/picture is using the BILL 2 top attack missile, with two vertically striking warheads.


Wouldn't the gun be cheaper to run?

The ATGM's are good and all though.
Don't copy and paste anything you see in a sig you fucking normie scrub
I deliberately made the star asymmetrical.
AUF GEHTS KAMERADEN
Here are my factbooks (Lots of WIP)

Ragnarum is not communist or even particularly socialist, just so you know.

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Postby Lydenburg » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Novorden wrote:If you use the CV90 already go for it, if not it's not worth buying it just for the 120mm.


The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.


You can also take out an MBT with a 76mm SABOT.

See what I did there? If you want a super-heavy IFV that's more or less an MBT with slightly less armour, just buy an MBT.

*BA-64 Armoured Car
*M1097 Heavy HMMWV Avenger
*M1114 Armament Carrier
*M1152 Capable HMMWV
*M1165 HMMWV
*M1167 TOW Carrier
*M997 Maxi-Ambulance
*M998 Cargo/Troop Transport
*Sd.Kfz. 234/4 Puma
*Type 93 Armoured Car


Your logistics is simply awful. And where the hell are you getting parts for the bloody Puma?

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby Kouralia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
*BA-64 Armoured Car
*M1097 Heavy HMMWV Avenger
*M1114 Armament Carrier
*M1152 Capable HMMWV
*M1165 HMMWV
*M1167 TOW Carrier
*M997 Maxi-Ambulance
*M998 Cargo/Troop Transport
*Sd.Kfz. 234/4 Puma
*Type 93 Armoured Car


Your logistics is simply awful. And where the hell are you getting parts for the bloody Puma?

Presumably manufacturing them themselves.
Kouralia:

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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:21 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Novorden wrote:(Image)
If you want tank hunter/killer abilities just strap some ATGMs to your existing vehicles

The one in the video/picture is using the BILL 2 top attack missile, with two vertically striking warheads.


Wouldn't the gun be cheaper to run?

The ATGM's are good and all though.

Buying new vehicles or re-fitting vehicles with a new turret isn't going to be cheap, and the Bill 2 has a shelf life of 15 years so unless you are using all of them (in which case price might not matter so much as you are clearly involved in a major conflict), you aren't going to have to restock that often.
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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:22 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.


You can also take out an MBT with a 76mm SABOT.

See what I did there? If you want a super-heavy IFV that's more or less an MBT with slightly less armour, just buy an MBT.


I don't want it to be a super heavy IFV, I would want to convert it to be a light/medium ish tank.

I'm off to bed.
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Don't copy and paste anything you see in a sig you fucking normie scrub
I deliberately made the star asymmetrical.
AUF GEHTS KAMERADEN
Here are my factbooks (Lots of WIP)

Ragnarum is not communist or even particularly socialist, just so you know.

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:22 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
The normal ones have a 40mm cannon, but I think the 120 would be worth fitting to already existing ones since you can take out a MBT with it, with the right ammo.


You can also take out an MBT with a 76mm SABOT.

See what I did there? If you want a super-heavy IFV that's more or less an MBT with slightly less armour, just buy an MBT.

*BA-64 Armoured Car
*M1097 Heavy HMMWV Avenger
*M1114 Armament Carrier
*M1152 Capable HMMWV
*M1165 HMMWV
*M1167 TOW Carrier
*M997 Maxi-Ambulance
*M998 Cargo/Troop Transport
*Sd.Kfz. 234/4 Puma
*Type 93 Armoured Car


Your logistics is simply awful. And where the hell are you getting parts for the bloody Puma?

He also uses Kongō-class destroyers, with Aegis...
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:35 pm

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CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby United States of PA » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:35 pm

And whats wrong with the Kongo/Atago?


Also repost with minor changes.


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Designation: M8P Advanced Block II Medium tank
- Name: Li Toneur

Costs:
- New Production: A lot

Dimensions:
- Length: 8.1m (Hull) 11.2m (Gun Forward)
- Height: 2.6m
- Width: 3.4m (+0.7m when using Slat Armor)
- Mass: 74 tonnes
- Track Width: 600mm
-Ground Pressure (apprx): 1.5kg/cm2

Internal Systems:
- Crew: 3
- Autoloader: M300 140mm Main Gun Autoloader
- Ammunition: 36 (Main Gun) 300 (Primary Coax.)
- Transmission: General Motors 2010 Heavy Duty MilSpec Automatic
- Fuel Capacity: 960L (Internal) 150L (External)


Powerplant: Caterpillar RB Model Diesel Heavy Duty 12 Cylinder
- Power: 2,200hp
- Displacement: 36 liters
- Layout: Opposed Piston
- Induction: Sequential Supercharger and Turbocharger
- Fuel Consumption: 2.1 liters per kilometer
- Suspensions: Active In Arm Suspension Unit

Performance:
- Maximum Speed (Road): 65km/h
- Range: 460km (Internal only) 530km (External included)
- Power-Weight Ratio: 29 hp/tonne


Armament:
- Primary: 140mm ERFB Main Gun
- Coaxial: 50mm Supershot firing Autocannon
- Commanders Gun: 1x Remote Weapons Station with a Heavy Machine Gun
- Dischargers: 42x 70mm Multiuse Grenade Launchers
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:39 pm

United States of PA wrote:And whats wrong with the Kongo/Atago?

Nothing, but his army also uses Stug IIIs and Hummels
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Postby United States of PA » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:40 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
United States of PA wrote:And whats wrong with the Kongo/Atago?

Nothing, but his army also uses Stug IIIs and Hummels



Soooo....

Two of his destroyers cost as much as his armored force? :p
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:43 pm

United States of PA wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Nothing, but his army also uses Stug IIIs and Hummels



Soooo....

Two of his destroyers cost as much as his armored force? :p

His army is clustered around ww2, and his navy is modern.
Problem? Yes.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Lydenburg » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:57 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:
Your logistics is simply awful. And where the hell are you getting parts for the bloody Puma?

Presumably manufacturing them themselves.


My guess was same place the shades from his smiley came from.

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:58 pm

United States of PA wrote:
Also repost with minor changes.


(Image)


Designation: M8P Advanced Block II Medium tank
- Name: Li Toneur

Costs:
- New Production: A lot

Dimensions:
- Length: 8.1m (Hull) 11.2m (Gun Forward)
- Height: 2.6m
- Width: 3.4m (+0.7m when using Slat Armor)
- Mass: 74 tonnes
- Track Width: 600mm
-Ground Pressure (apprx): 1.5kg/cm2

Internal Systems:
- Crew: 3
- Autoloader: M300 140mm Main Gun Autoloader
- Ammunition: 36 (Main Gun) 300 (Primary Coax.)
- Transmission: General Motors 2010 Heavy Duty MilSpec Automatic
- Fuel Capacity: 960L (Internal) 150L (External)


Powerplant: Caterpillar RB Model Diesel Heavy Duty 12 Cylinder
- Power: 2,200hp
- Displacement: 36 liters
- Layout: Opposed Piston
- Induction: Sequential Supercharger and Turbocharger
- Fuel Consumption: 2.1 liters per kilometer
- Suspensions: Active In Arm Suspension Unit

Performance:
- Maximum Speed (Road): 65km/h
- Range: 460km (Internal only) 530km (External included)
- Power-Weight Ratio: 29 hp/tonne


Armament:
- Primary: 140mm ERFB Main Gun
- Coaxial: 50mm Supershot firing Autocannon
- Commanders Gun: 1x Remote Weapons Station with a Heavy Machine Gun
- Dischargers: 42x 70mm Multiuse Grenade Launchers


Yes! My stat block strikes again!

Fuel capacity seems low.
Leopard 1 IRL

Kyiv is my disobedient child. :P

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