NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[Geilinor]

University Education Stipend Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP); Sponsors: Regnum Dominae (ALM), Britanno (ALM), Corenea (RefP), People Who Say Ni (NDP), Soviet Canuckistan (NDP), Mediciano (IP) Category: Domestic Development; Urgency: Medium

Seeking to ensure that students from low-income families have every opportunity to receive higher education, the Senate of Aurentina HEREBY PASSES the following act:

Section 1 - Definitions

1) University education shall be defined as non-mandatory education for those at and over the age of eighteen years.
2) Low-income shall be defined as a household with an average income below £20,000 for the past two years, to be annually adjusted for inflation.

Section 2 - University Education Stipend Board

1) The University Education Stipend Board (UESB) shall be established within the Ministry of Education
2) The UESB shall process each application for the University Education Stipend and provide a timely response.

Section 3 - University Education Stipend
1) A student from a low-income family who has scored in the top one-third of the country in Year Twelve and Year Thirteen examinations may apply for the University Education Stipend.
3) The Higher Education Stipend shall be paid for up to four (4) years at a rate of £350 per month, to be annually adjusted for inflation.
4) Students may lose eligibility for the stipend if they are found to have used the payments on illicit products.

I'd like to submit this, and bump.

[New Bierstaat]

University Education Stipend Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP); Sponsors: Regnum Dominae (ALM), Britanno (ALM), Corenea (RefP), People Who Say Ni (NDP), Soviet Canuckistan (NDP), Mediciano (IP) Category: Domestic Development; Urgency: Medium

Seeking to ensure that students from low-income families have every opportunity to receive higher education, the Senate of Aurentina HEREBY PASSES the following act:

Section 1 - Definitions

1) University education shall be defined as non-mandatory education for those at and over the age of eighteen years.
2) Low-income shall be defined as a household with an average income below £20,000 for the past two years, to be annually adjusted for inflation.

Section 2 - University Education Stipend Board

1) The University Education Stipend Board (UESB) shall be established within the Ministry of Education
2) The UESB shall process each application for the University Education Stipend and provide a timely response.

Section 3 - University Education Stipend
1) A student from a low-income family who has scored in the top one-third of the country in Year Twelve and Year Thirteen examinations may apply for the University Education Stipend.
3) The Higher Education Stipend shall be paid for up to four (4) years at a rate of £350 per month, to be annually adjusted for inflation.
4) Students may lose eligibility for the stipend if they are found to have used the payments on illicit products.

I'd like to submit this, and bump.

Did we seriously just have to bump the chamber thread?

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

University Education Stipend Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP); Sponsors: Regnum Dominae (ALM), Britanno (ALM), Corenea (RefP), People Who Say Ni (NDP), Soviet Canuckistan (NDP), Mediciano (IP) Category: Domestic Development; Urgency: Medium

Seeking to ensure that students from low-income families have every opportunity to receive higher education, the Senate of Aurentina HEREBY PASSES the following act:

Section 1 - Definitions

1) University education shall be defined as non-mandatory education for those at and over the age of eighteen years.
2) Low-income shall be defined as a household with an average income below £20,000 for the past two years, to be annually adjusted for inflation.

Section 2 - University Education Stipend Board

1) The University Education Stipend Board (UESB) shall be established within the Ministry of Education
2) The UESB shall process each application for the University Education Stipend and provide a timely response.

Section 3 - University Education Stipend
1) A student from a low-income family who has scored in the top one-third of the country in Year Twelve and Year Thirteen examinations may apply for the University Education Stipend.
3) The Higher Education Stipend shall be paid for up to four (4) years at a rate of £350 per month, to be annually adjusted for inflation.
4) Students may lose eligibility for the stipend if they are found to have used the payments on illicit products.

I'd like to submit this, and bump.

Did we seriously just have to bump the chamber thread?

Hmm no.

[Maklohi Vai]

Senator Gjhordi Bhradrín-le-Thagn finally came back to the Chamber after misteriously disappearing from it since late Summer 2013; and although he was enjoying the 'Franco-Phoney' debate; he wanted to turn everyone's attention back to the Embassy Act.

"Aurentina cannot afford holding an embassy on every country that has been recognized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Why would an Aurentine Embassy be useful in Tuvalu? It makes no sense at all.

I believe, though, that the original purpose of the bill was the strengthening of our commonwealth's Foreign relations; and I think we could do that with different mechanisms; like establishing formal diplomatic ties with other nations BUT without having to build a, and I quote from the proposed bill, <<building or compound housing an ambassador's offices and staff>>.

Following the example of most countries in the world, our ambassadors should be able to be ambassadors to several nations at a time, grouped by similar cultural characteristics and ties with our nation... Like an unique ambassador to all Central Asia, for example.

Moreover, we shouldn't open formal diplomatic relations with nation that we have no interest on (or viceversa)."

No, we cannot afford embassies in every country, but we must retain consulates, even if they aren't physical manifestations. The bill formerly required embassies in every country, but I made an amendment to it that the author accepted, creating the current format.

OOC: As it stands, this would create a embassy and consulate system that is practically identical to most European nations as far as I know.

[CTALNH]

Senator Gjhordi Bhradrín-le-Thagn finally came back to the Chamber after misteriously disappearing from it since late Summer 2013; and although he was enjoying the 'Franco-Phoney' debate; he wanted to turn everyone's attention back to the Embassy Act.

"Aurentina cannot afford holding an embassy on every country that has been recognized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Why would an Aurentine Embassy be useful in Tuvalu? It makes no sense at all.

I believe, though, that the original purpose of the bill was the strengthening of our commonwealth's Foreign relations; and I think we could do that with different mechanisms; like establishing formal diplomatic ties with other nations BUT without having to build a, and I quote from the proposed bill, <<building or compound housing an ambassador's offices and staff>>.

Following the example of most countries in the world, our ambassadors should be able to be ambassadors to several nations at a time, grouped by similar cultural characteristics and ties with our nation... Like an unique ambassador to all Central Asia, for example.

Moreover, we shouldn't open formal diplomatic relations with nation that we have no interest on (or viceversa)."

No, we cannot afford embassies in every country, but we must retain consulates, even if they aren't physical manifestations. The bill formerly required embassies in every country, but I made an amendment to it that the author accepted, creating the current format.

OOC: As it stands, this would create a embassy and consulate system that is practically identical to most European nations as far as I know.

Can I be the consulate of North Korea?

[Ainin]

To Office of Proxy Voting:
I, Alexander Ainin, give Robert Sovcan the permission to vote on my behalf for the remainder of the Health SIMBEDS category.

[Ainin]

No, we cannot afford embassies in every country, but we must retain consulates, even if they aren't physical manifestations. The bill formerly required embassies in every country, but I made an amendment to it that the author accepted, creating the current format.

OOC: As it stands, this would create a embassy and consulate system that is practically identical to most European nations as far as I know.

Can I be the consulate of North Korea?

Dibs on Consul-General to Sealand.

[The Nihilistic view]

To Office of Proxy Voting:
I, Alexander Ainin, give Robert Sovcan the permission to vote on my behalf for the remainder of the Health SIMBEDS category.

[Ainin]

To Office of Proxy Voting:
I, Alexander Ainin, give Robert Sovcan the permission to vote on my behalf for the remainder of the Health SIMBEDS category.

wait, we're discusing International Relations.

Fuck.

Editing.

>.>

[Ainin]

I, Alexander Ainin, give Robert Sovcan the permission to vote on my behalf for the remainder of the International Relations SIMBEDS category.

[The Nihilistic view]

Situation rescued.


Though voting will not have long begun when you land. So it would not matter.

[Skeckoa]

First Amendment of the Small Business Assistance Act
Author: Benito Calvino (LPA); Sponsors: James Lu (ALM), Jen Coren (RefP), Blahbania (LPA), Andie Calvin (LPA), Boris Jonhson (ALM), Tchaikovsky (IP); Category: Business and Finance; Urgency: High

Given the unclarity of the phrase, and the damage that a direct interpretation causes to small businesses in Aurentina

the Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the following amendment:

The following line from the Small Business Assistance Act is hereby considered NULL and VOID:

"Small business owners must provide a decent working wage for their workers, 90% of national average within the first two years of operation.

on the premise that "national average" is not defined, and that the national average is not equal to the minimum wage which other non-small businesses must oblige to.

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[size=85]Author: Benito Calvino (LPA); Sponsors: James Lu (ALM), Jen Coren (RefP), Blahbania (LPA), Andie Calvin (LPA), Boris Jonhson (ALM), Tchaikovsky (IP); Category: Business and Finance; Urgency: [color=#FF4000]High[/color][/size]

Given the unclarity of the phrase, and the damage that a direct interpretation causes to small businesses in Aurentina

the Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the following amendment:

[blocktext]The following line from the Small Business Assistance Act is hereby considered NULL and VOID:

[i]"Small business owners must provide a decent working wage for their workers, 90% of national average within the first two years of operation.[/i][/blocktext]

on the premise that "national average" is not defined, and that the national average is not equal to the minimum wage which other non-small businesses must oblige to.[/box]

Can I have this added to Finance and Business please.

[New Zepuha]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

[Britanno]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

Seconded.

[Corenea]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

Seconded, we don't need to recognize this rogue totalitarian state

[The Nihilistic view]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

The motion is legal I believe and if it receives the right amount of seconds in the next 24 hours it will be voted on for the usual 48 hours.

This is where a slight hiccup arises, the motion reform act does not give a number of seconds required for uncodified motions. and after looking at several other act such as the current REA and the second Constitution of the senate I can find no clause specifying the number of seconds needed.

Therefore we have a problem. Unless a motion is codified such as a PPUBA motion (needing 5) or a motion of no confidence in a Minister (needing 15) and a few others as well a motion can never succeed as we don't know how many seconds a motion legally needs.

The motion reform act needs to be amended before we can we can call uncodified motions with a chance of success.

I personally thought it was ten before I decided to check to make sure so if anybody knows a clause buried somewhere that says how many seconds I would appreciate them greatly if they came forward now. I personally can't find one.

[Maklohi Vai]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

The motion is legal I believe and if it receives the right amount of seconds in the next 24 hours it will be voted on for the usual 48 hours.

This is where a slight hiccup arises, the motion reform act does not give a number of seconds required for uncodified motions. and after looking at several other act such as the current REA and the second Constitution of the senate I can find no clause specifying the number of seconds needed.

Therefore we have a problem. Unless a motion is codified such as a PPUBA motion (needing 5) or a motion of no confidence in a Minister (needing 15) and a few others as well a motion can never succeed as we don't know how many seconds a motion legally needs.

The motion reform act needs to be amended before we can we can call uncodified motions with a chance of success.

I personally thought it was ten before I decided to check to make sure so if anybody knows a clause buried somewhere that says how many seconds I would appreciate them greatly if they came forward now. I personally can find one.

It's not codified, but the administration has always suggested 10 seconds for any basic non-codified motion, with the exception of those that minor procedural things (5 or 7) or are much more affecting matters (15).

[New Zepuha]

I need 8 more seconds on the motion then.

[Skeckoa]

I motion that we vote to deploy the NDF to maintain public order during our state of emergency. Seeing that the constabulary is stretched thin as is.

Also, I'm not assigning any consuls to NK.

Seconded.

Seconded again

[The Nihilistic view]

I don't know, because it's not specified in law If I make a decision a senator against the motion could legitimately take me to court for it potentially being an illegal action as there is no law backing up my actions. Then I could lose my job as PpT. I am not sure I am willing to risk that.

[New Zepuha]

I don't know, because it's not specified in law If I make a decision a senator against the motion could legitimately take me to court for it potentially being an illegal action as there is no law backing up my actions. Then I could lose my job as PpT. I am not sure I am willing to risk that.

It's a legal motion for a legal document. Anyone bringing a case against you would have no case. If you didn't comply with a legitimate motion then you'd be perverting your duties as PpT.

[The Nihilistic view]

I don't know, because it's not specified in law If I make a decision a senator against the motion could legitimately take me to court for it potentially being an illegal action as there is no law backing up my actions. Then I could lose my job as PpT. I am not sure I am willing to risk that.

It's a legal motion for a legal document. Anyone bringing a case against you would have no case. If you didn't comply with a legitimate motion then you'd be perverting your duties as PpT.

No, the part is the number of seconds. There is no law that allows me or anyone else to chose the number of seconds a motion needs. Therefor for me or another senator to decide is illegal, thus whilst the motion is legal it will never get enough seconds to pass. Do you see the problem?

[New Zepuha]

It's a legal motion for a legal document. Anyone bringing a case against you would have no case. If you didn't comply with a legitimate motion then you'd be perverting your duties as PpT.

No, the part is the number of seconds. There is no law that allows me or anyone else to chose the number of seconds a motion needs. Therefor for me or another senator to decide is illegal, thus whilst the motion is legal it will never get enough seconds to pass. Do you see the problem?

MV just said that it was 10 seconds.

[The Nihilistic view]

No, the part is the number of seconds. There is no law that allows me or anyone else to chose the number of seconds a motion needs. Therefor for me or another senator to decide is illegal, thus whilst the motion is legal it will never get enough seconds to pass. Do you see the problem?

MV just said that it was 10 seconds.

No, he said the admins have suggested 10 seconds in the past. That is not a law that is a suggestion, a suggestion that has no law behind it.

[New Zepuha]

I doubt anyone is going to sure you for carrying forward a motion that has a good amount of seconds. If not a motion, then you just need to call the vote to order. Every moment we debate this the city slips that much farther out of the constables hands.