[DRAFT] Freedom to Keep and Bear Arms Act

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

That would mean I have even less guns than you.

OOC: Still gets me how you can have less than zero in either category, but meh

It probably just means how staunchly anti-owning-guns.

[Ammar]

1. Everyone in this nation came here to seek freedom from the non-Christians

How elitist of you.

2. If we allow non-Christians, our morals will go down the drain

Yes, those icky immoral Jews and Buddhists will certainly wreck your nation.

3. Execution is illegal in Molsona as of 1/1/14

Glad to hear it. Yet you still seek to allow citizens to kill each other with guns...

4. The author of "On Abortion" is trying to force their cruelty towards children on our nation.

"On Abortion" is a reflection of the author's attempt to provide what they consider a human right. Gun ownership is not a human right in any sense of the word.

5. #DoubleStandard

The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

Sir, what makes abortion a "human right"? The way IN see it, there's only privaledge.

[Alqania]

Resting her chin on her palm, Representative Thorstein watched Lord Raekevik defenestrate the Molsonian Ambassador and laughed.

Continuing to write on her gPad, Myrtis chuckled. "If this were to pass, a Citizen could kill you for that. Even throwing someone out a window carries lessons."

"Could, perhaps", conceded Lord Raekevik, "but not necessarily legally. This proposal would only allow people to arm themselves, not actually use those firearms to defend themselves. The extant Resolution on self-defence is based on proportionality, and I would hardly think it proportional to kill someone in order not to be defenestrated into that harmless pool of water the Ambassador landed in. And in any case, these World Assembly Headquarters are in international territory, so there is not much of the rule of law around here, ironically enough."

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

How elitist of you.


Yes, those icky immoral Jews and Buddhists will certainly wreck your nation.


Glad to hear it. Yet you still seek to allow citizens to kill each other with guns...


"On Abortion" is a reflection of the author's attempt to provide what they consider a human right. Gun ownership is not a human right in any sense of the word.


The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

Sir, what makes abortion a "human right"? The way IN see it, there's only privaledge.

One should be able to stop from having, to be fair in some circumstances, a burden so they can't live in an even more impoverished state.

[People Who Say Ni]

Alright, to stop de-railing, here is a new abortion thread in the general forum.

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

Thank you, Ambassador.

[Athenoi]

Continuing to write on her gPad, Myrtis chuckled. "If this were to pass, a Citizen could kill you for that. Even throwing someone out a window carries lessons."

"Could, perhaps", conceded Lord Raekevik, "but not necessarily legally. This proposal would only allow people to arm themselves, not actually use those firearms to defend themselves. The extant Resolution on self-defence is based on proportionality, and I would hardly think it proportional to kill someone in order not to be defenestrated into that harmless pool of water the Ambassador landed in. And in any case, these World Assembly Headquarters are in international territory, so there is not much of the rule of law around here, ironically enough."

She chuckles again. "True. Why couldn't it have been a pool with sharks? Or a bed of nails? We would have one less problem if it were."

[New Molsona]

1. Everyone in this nation came here to seek freedom from the non-Christians

1. How elitist of you.

2. If we allow non-Christians, our morals will go down the drain

Yes, those icky immoral Jews and Buddhists will certainly wreck your nation.

3. Execution is illegal in Molsona as of 1/1/14

2. Glad to hear it. Yet you still seek to allow citizens to kill each other with guns...

4. The author of "On Abortion" is trying to force their cruelty towards children on our nation.

3. "On Abortion" is a reflection of the author's attempt to provide what they consider a human right. Gun ownership is not a human right in any sense of the word.

5. #DoubleStandard

4. The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

1. How so?
2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)
3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.
4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

1. How elitist of you.


Yes, those icky immoral Jews and Buddhists will certainly wreck your nation.


2. Glad to hear it. Yet you still seek to allow citizens to kill each other with guns...


3. "On Abortion" is a reflection of the author's attempt to provide what they consider a human right. Gun ownership is not a human right in any sense of the word.


4. The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

1. How so?
2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)
3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.
4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

1. Acting like non-Christians are immoral is THE DEFINITION of elitism.
2. God-modding. And seeing that you want to legalize firearms for everyone is counter-intuitive to your own laws.
3. It's a fetus, it doesn't make decisions and if someone is poor and can't afford a baby, they should make the choice to do something to THEIR bodies.
4. Gun ownership is in fact NOT a human right.

[Ammar]

1. How elitist of you.


Yes, those icky immoral Jews and Buddhists will certainly wreck your nation.


2. Glad to hear it. Yet you still seek to allow citizens to kill each other with guns...


3. "On Abortion" is a reflection of the author's attempt to provide what they consider a human right. Gun ownership is not a human right in any sense of the word.


4. The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

1. How so?
2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)
3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.
4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

2. Oh, we have a reason to invade now.
4. There are still standards of speech.

[New Molsona]

1. How so?
2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)
3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.
4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

1. Acting like non-Christians are immoral is THE DEFINITION of elitism.
2. God-modding. And seeing that you want to legalize firearms for everyone is counter-intuitive to your own laws.
3. It's a fetus, it doesn't make decisions and if someone is poor and can't afford a baby, they should make the choice to do something to THEIR bodies.
4. Gun ownership is in fact NOT a human right.

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

[Athenoi]

I'm sorry, but we can not watch idly by as morals are stricken out in the name of political correctness. Non-compliance is our only option besides allowing the brutal murder of unborn children.

This is not about abortion or dead children. Move on!

[New Molsona]

1. How so?
2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)
3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.
4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

2. Oh, we have a reason to invade now.
4. There are still standards of speech.

2. What would that be?

[Belzia]

OOC: get back on topic! and New Molsona, you have to comply with WA resolutions, if you don't want to, just leave the WA, it's not hard.

[Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories]

Your God is not something that everyone believes in. Not being persecuted, however, is something that everyone likes. If you want to make your country a happy, moral, upstanding, Christian land, where anybody that doesn't fit into your norm is used as a tree ornament, be our guest. But do not, ever, presume you have the right to impose your cruelty and malice on the people of other nations. You are despicable, and your resolution will fail. Your ideology, no matter how hard you believe it to be true, is yours, not ours. Keep it to yourself, and out of International law.

We 'evil child murdering liberals', as you put it, aren't saying you don't have the right to murder your own people, or cause them misery in any of the other ways your insane agenda does, we're saying that it's our right to not have limitations put on the way we govern our nations if we don't want them. Make your own people miserable, oppressed, or dead. Not ours.

1. Everyone in this nation came here to seek freedom from the non-Christians
2. If we allow non-Christians, our morals will go down the drain
3. Execution is illegal in Molsona as of 1/1/14
4. The author of "On Abortion" is trying to force their cruelty towards children on our nation.
5. #DoubleStandard

1. Good for you. Enjoy your "freedom", but we don't want it
2. Well that's a shame, isn't it, because not every nation here is Christian, and as such is not subject to your god's laws.
3. Whoop-de-fucking-do. Won't stop lynch mobs though, will it?
4. Well then you should be in that debate, instead of this one.
5. Ambassador Ironhoof flips the bird at the Molsonan delegate

[Kelinfort]

1. Acting like non-Christians are immoral is THE DEFINITION of elitism.
2. God-modding. And seeing that you want to legalize firearms for everyone is counter-intuitive to your own laws.
3. It's a fetus, it doesn't make decisions and if someone is poor and can't afford a baby, they should make the choice to do something to THEIR bodies.
4. Gun ownership is in fact NOT a human right.

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

1. OOC: Hmm...idk, crusades, age of imperialism, Native American genocide...just a few with Jesus.
2. Stats say so, but it can never truly be zero.
3. Other thread.
4. I don't really know...

[Rotwood]

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

1. OOC: Hmm...idk, crusades, age of imperialism, Native American genocide...just a few with Jesus.
2. Stats say so, but it can never truly be zero.
3. Other thread.
4. I don't really know...

1. OOC: we could also add the cases of child abuse to that, but this is getting wildly off topic... Again... As usual...

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

1. OOC: Hmm...idk, crusades, age of imperialism, Native American genocide...just a few with Jesus.
2. Stats say so, but it can never truly be zero.
3. Other thread.
4. I don't really know...

Funny that one can quote the Bigot 9000 Phil Robertson unironically.

[West Angola]

1. How so?

Your fleeing of non-Christians, coupled with your refusal to allow them into your nation, speaks to the possibility of a rather elitist stance regarding other religions, such as Judaism, Islam, or Buddhism.

2. We don't allow murder in any form. Anyone convicted of murder is sent to work camps for life. That's why our murder rate is 0 (check our stats)

I didn't say murder, I said kill. You seek to increase gun ownership under the justification of self-defense, which likely would increase gun-related death rates.

3. We consider life a human right, you can't say you consider the right to live to be a human right, then say you support abortion.

I disagree with abortion, you aren't going to make any headway there. At any rate, we are discussing gun control, not abortion. Gun control is not a human right, Ambassador, and you have yet show why the Assembly should consider it such.

4. Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?

That's not what I'm referring to, Ambassador. You can say any number of things in this chamber, and many of them will hamper your ability to be taken seriously. (The Ambassador smirks faintly and sits down)

[Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories]

1. Acting like non-Christians are immoral is THE DEFINITION of elitism.
2. God-modding. And seeing that you want to legalize firearms for everyone is counter-intuitive to your own laws.
3. It's a fetus, it doesn't make decisions and if someone is poor and can't afford a baby, they should make the choice to do something to THEIR bodies.
4. Gun ownership is in fact NOT a human right.

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

OOC:
1. Ignoring for a moment that Hitler was a christian (numerous references to God in Mein Kampf, "Gott mit uns" on Wehrmacht belts), and that Bin Laden believed in Jesus (as a prophet), that list of five people (and an entire country) proves precisely bugger all Plenty of murderous christian leaders too.
3. What about rape? Or lack of education? Or simply making a mistake? Is it right or wrong to doom a child to a life of poverty and misery, or becoming another dumpster baby?
4. It is not recognized as a human right by a majority of the world.

[Athenoi]

This is not about abortion or dead children. Move on!

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

[insert dead baby joke here]

[New Molsona]

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

1. OOC: Hmm...idk, crusades, age of imperialism, Native American genocide...just a few with Jesus.
2. Stats say so, but it can never truly be zero.
3. Other thread.
4. I don't really know...

1. The crusades were provoked by muslims
2. According to our stats 0 murders

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

1. OOC: Hmm...idk, crusades, age of imperialism, Native American genocide...just a few with Jesus.
2. Stats say so, but it can never truly be zero.
3. Other thread.
4. I don't really know...

1. The crusades were provoked by muslims
2. According to our stats 0 murders

1. No they didn't.
2. New Molsona, God-Modding since the dawn of Time!

[New Molsona]

1. OOC: Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, Osama bin Laden, WWII era Japan. I'm starting to see a pattern here. "Where there is no Jesus, evil always reigns." - Phil Robertson
2. How is that godmodding?
3. That fetus's body is a separate entity from the mother's body. And if she can't afford a baby, she shouldn't be having sex.
4. What does that have to do with my statement, "Yes I did, freedom of speech is protected by the WA isn't it?". It is a human right.

OOC:
1. Ignoring for a moment that Hitler was a christian (numerous references to God in Mein Kampf, "Gott mit uns" on Wehrmacht belts), and that Bin Laden believed in Jesus (as a prophet), that list of five people (and an entire country) proves precisely bugger all Plenty of murderous christian leaders too.
3. What about rape? Or lack of education? Or simply making a mistake? Is it right or wrong to doom a child to a life of poverty and misery, or becoming another dumpster baby?
4. It is not recognized as a human right by a majority of the world.

1. Hitler referred to Christianity as "the religion of the Jew". Preach about Jesus to him, watch his reaction.
3. It's wrong to condemn a child to death because its mom is an idiot.
4. Freedom of speech is recognized by the vast majority of the world as a human right. If you don't like it, Sudan is nice this time of year.