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Postby New Zepuha » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:11 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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Maybe Eritrea or Ghana.

SEALAND

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Postby Bleckonia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:12 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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Maybe Eritrea or Ghana.

SEALAND


Actually not a horrible idea.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:12 pm

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Kamchastkia wrote:BUT AININ! THEM EBUHL ARABS HATE ISRAEL! THEY ALL BIASED!1!1!!!!


Well, seeing as Pakistan recognizes Palestine but not Israel and that they want a completely separate Palestinian state, they are biased. Too biased to serve on a fact-finding committee about Israel.

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Postby Ainin » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:13 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:BUT AININ! THEM EBUHL ARABS HATE ISRAEL! THEY ALL BIASED!1!1!!!!


Well, seeing as Pakistan recognizes Palestine but not Israel and that they want a completely separate Palestinian state, they are biased. Too biased to serve on a fact-finding committee about Israel.

Generalisations are bad.

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Postby Ainin » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:14 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:SEALAND


Actually not a horrible idea.

Yes, because letting a random eccentric idiot with no knowledge of international law officiate over a UN inquiry isn't a bad idea.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:15 pm

Ainin wrote:
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Actually not a horrible idea.

Yes, because letting a random eccentric idiot with no knowledge of international law officiate over a UN inquiry isn't a bad idea.

Don't talk about Boris Johnson that way.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:15 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:SEALAND


Actually not a horrible idea.

^
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Postby Minarchist States » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:16 pm

We could create some real BS canon story to make Aurentina recognize Sealand as it's own country.
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Postby Bleckonia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:16 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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Actually not a horrible idea.

^


You do realize I was kidding, right?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:17 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:^


You do realize I was kidding, right?

And I was serious?
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Postby Ainin » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:17 pm

Minarchist States wrote:We could create some real BS canon story to make Aurentina recognize Sealand as it's own country.

Such a story would involve altering the Convention on the Laws of the Seas, which could have numerous major side-effects, from the Diaoyus to the Cod Wars to everything in between.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:17 pm

Minarchist States wrote:We could create some real BS canon story to make Aurentina recognize Sealand as it's own country.

Hell, just recognise it right off the bat.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:18 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Ainin wrote:Yes, because letting a random eccentric idiot with no knowledge of international law officiate over a UN inquiry isn't a bad idea.

Don't talk about Boris Johnson that way.


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Postby East Ormania » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:33 pm

Minarchist States wrote:We could create some real BS canon story to make Aurentina recognize Sealand as it's own country.

I support this.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:10 pm

Ainin wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:We could create some real BS canon story to make Aurentina recognize Sealand as it's own country.

Such a story would involve altering the Convention on the Laws of the Seas, which could have numerous major side-effects, from the Diaoyus to the Cod Wars to everything in between.

It might also end up giving oil drilling platforms their own territorial waters.
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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:32 am

Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act
Author: Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS: Domestic Development | Urgency: Paramount
Sponsors: Unicario [RG], Maklohi Vai [NDP], NEO Rome Republic [NDP], Glasgia [MSP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Abhorred at the recent attempts by prominent senators of Aurentina to evade the taxes of this nation,

Affirming that persons who do not pay taxes without a legitimate reason should not have the right to represent Aurentines,

Deploring these practices as not worthy of an elected representative of the Aurentine state,

Prime Minister Alexander Ainin [Poort-Wüdinge - 299] hereby tables the Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act, which is as follows:

Article I

Valid reason is defined as the person in question being in an income tax bracket that mandates none are paid, or being able to prove their situation made it virtually impossible (to be further defined by the Minister of the Exchequer, even if post facto) to pay taxes.
Income tax is defined as the tax levied by the Government of Aurentina, or a subordinate jurisdiction, on yearly income.
Citizen is defined as a person holding citizenship in the Aurentine Commonwealth.
Public Office is defined as a position within the Aurentine government elected through popular vote.
Office is defined as a position where an hourly salary is paid for by the public sector.
£ is defined as the Pound Sterling (GBP).

Article II - No Representation Without Taxation

All citizens are mandated to declare income from employment held anywhere in the world when filing for income tax. Failure to do so is tax evasion, a contravention. If the amount of defrauded money is superior to £1,000,000, it is high tax evasion, a derelict, and tax evasion charges may arrive on top.
Persons who fail to pay their income taxes without valid reason are prohibited from either holding office or public office. Anyone who is currently either holding office or public office may be removed at the discretion of a judge following a conviction for this offence.
If the person refuses to appear in court on a set date for a hearing without being able to prove their situation made it virtually impossible, the President of Aurentina may immediately terminate their public office or office at hir discretion.


Article III - Nonbiding Recommendation

The Senate of Aurentina advises the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to purse taxation agreements with other nations.


As requested this is the bill without the old Article 3, this is now the one linked in the domestic development section.
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Postby Beta Test » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:57 am

The State of Israel is a legitimate entity. I don't think that it is a "terrorist" state, although I find the settlements to be illegal and unjustifed.

However, I think the solution to the problem is creating a confederal state, like the one in Bosnia-Herzegovia. The areas where the two groups are the majority would become the provinces of the confederation, which would have one joint overseeing government. This would actually give the Palestinians the majority.
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Postby East Ormania » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:53 am

Beta Test wrote:The State of Israel is a legitimate entity. I don't think that it is a "terrorist" state, although I find the settlements to be illegal and unjustifed.

However, I think the solution to the problem is creating a confederal state, like the one in Bosnia-Herzegovia. The areas where the two groups are the majority would become the provinces of the confederation, which would have one joint overseeing government. This would actually give the Palestinians the majority.


Aurentina should be neutral for the time being.
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Postby Gallup » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:25 am

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Postby Oneracon » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:32 am

East Ormania wrote:
Beta Test wrote:The State of Israel is a legitimate entity. I don't think that it is a "terrorist" state, although I find the settlements to be illegal and unjustifed.

However, I think the solution to the problem is creating a confederal state, like the one in Bosnia-Herzegovia. The areas where the two groups are the majority would become the provinces of the confederation, which would have one joint overseeing government. This would actually give the Palestinians the majority.


Aurentina should be neutral for the time being.

This ^
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:51 am

Gallup wrote:To all the Americans in this thread like me...

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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:31 am

East Ormania wrote:
Beta Test wrote:The State of Israel is a legitimate entity. I don't think that it is a "terrorist" state, although I find the settlements to be illegal and unjustifed.

However, I think the solution to the problem is creating a confederal state, like the one in Bosnia-Herzegovia. The areas where the two groups are the majority would become the provinces of the confederation, which would have one joint overseeing government. This would actually give the Palestinians the majority.


Aurentina should be neutral for the time being.

*Cough* Already stated that in my policy statement *cough*
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Postby East Ormania » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:35 am

New Zepuha wrote:
East Ormania wrote:
Aurentina should be neutral for the time being.

*Cough* Already stated that in my policy statement *cough*

*cough* It's my policy now *cough*

I was just reinforcing your statement, because it's being mainly ignored now.
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Postby Oneracon » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:36 am

Gallup wrote:To all the Americans in this thread like me...

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I believe you've confused your location, Senator. This is Aurentina. :p
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Postby New Bierstaat » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:44 am

East Ormania wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:*Cough* Already stated that in my policy statement *cough*

*cough* It's my policy now *cough*

I was just reinforcing your statement, because it's being mainly ignored now.

As far as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces says, we are neutral. I want really badly to like Israel, but they've definitely overstepped their boundaries with this wall.
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