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by Nickso » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:55 am
by Kryozerkia » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:09 pm
Nickso wrote:I see that a large part of resolutions are repealed. Bigger is the number of repealed resolutions than of those accepted and not repealed.
so World Assembly has little influence, as it has ratified very few resolutions, most of the others are repealed. Isn't this wrong?
by Barunia » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:48 pm
by Frisbeeteria » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:50 pm
Barunia wrote:I've made a draft for a repeal, but I want to write an act to replace the one I'm repealing. Should I post that in my repeal thread, or as a separate thread?
by Kryozerkia » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:51 pm
Barunia wrote:I've made a draft for a repeal, but I want to write an act to replace the one I'm repealing. Should I post that in my repeal thread, or as a separate thread?
by Bears Armed » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:41 am
by Ardchoille » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:05 am
by Bears Armed » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:25 am
by Talkistan » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:20 am
by Kryozerkia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:31 pm
Bears Armed wrote:Thank you for the quick response. I'll submit a GHR when my current "legislative programme" is a bit further along and that proposal is therefore getting closer to the top of the list. Fortunately it's in a field where there hasn't been much legislation, and one resolution passed since the previous attempt that would have caused problems has already been repealed.
The proposal whose re-submission I'm considering is ‘Wise Woodland Management’.
Talkistan wrote:Apparently there have been no resolutions passed in Education and Creativity/Artistic. Does this have to do with the fact that anyone who tries to make a proposal will have to, sooner or later, define "art"?
On a more serious note, where can I find out if there has ever been a legal and non-silly proposal (which failed to get approved/passed) on any particular topic? Also, it be considered "plagiarism" if I borrowed the definitions from an earlier proposal, or should I completely reword them?
by Talkistan » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:27 pm
Kryozerkia wrote:"Art" is far too subjective. It also is borderline with culture. These are two possible reasons why no resolution exists in that category.
As for finding non-silly proposals, you can use the "search" feature in this forum. You can refine your search to filter certain terms.
"Borrowing" would be plagiarism unless you had explicit permission from the author - a telegram, an RMB post, a forum post, a GHR in which the person states they give you permission. Anything that creates a paper trail on the site. Rewording is your best bet.
by The Akashic Records » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:00 am
by Talkistan » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:16 am
The Akashic Records wrote:I know that this is a bit sudden, and what with this thread having clarified things on definition, but, does a repeal that asks for definitions of common words used in proper context giving no misunderstanding whatsoever when read as a whole, qualify for the status of bloody stupid?
The repeal of #266 was the reason that I'm asking, as this would, inevitably set a precedent on what authors need to define in their proposals, and I fear we might end up with dictionaries for proposals in the future.
by The Nation of Nietzsche » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:32 pm
by United Territories of Progorica » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:09 pm
by Araraukar » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:10 pm
The Nation of Nietzsche wrote:Has there been a proposal defining what constitutes a nation? Does a nation constitute a rigorous boundary thereby constraining individuals as citizens of one area or is a nation defined by the citizens who reside within said nation?
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Talkistan » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:16 pm
The Nation of Nietzsche wrote:Has there been a proposal defining what constitutes a nation? Does a nation constitute a rigorous boundary thereby constraining individuals as citizens of one area or is a nation defined by the citizens who reside within said nation?
by The Akashic Records » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:43 pm
United Territories of Progorica wrote:I have noticed a very common criticism about GA proposals claiming that they are not "an international issue." I would like some clarification on what "an international issue" constitutes. Are we talking about issues that affect many different nations that makes it international, or does it have to be an issue that affects how nations interact with each other? I'm wondering if this criticism is actually used in a valid way.
by United Territories of Progorica » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:46 am
The Akashic Records wrote:United Territories of Progorica wrote:I have noticed a very common criticism about GA proposals claiming that they are not "an international issue." I would like some clarification on what "an international issue" constitutes. Are we talking about issues that affect many different nations that makes it international, or does it have to be an issue that affects how nations interact with each other? I'm wondering if this criticism is actually used in a valid way.
That's actually a rather difficult subjective question. What one nation considers as an international issue may not be so for another, hence, the variation in interpretation, much like how National Sovereingtists would disagree with International Federalists on one thing, yet agree on another.
As a general rule of thumb, anything that affects other nations, as well as international interaction, are international issues. However, the dependency on whether or not it becomes something that an international consideration is needed depends on the severity and justification. Pollution for example, would be an international issue, but how can we deal with it effectively enough that an international community standard would be able to handle it better than national standard? Given the multitude of the multiverse in NS, it becomes near impossible to have a catch all resolution that can handle it. What counts as pollution for one world may not be so for another, and for the most part, the most common source of pollutant would be sapient creature activities, including but not limited to traffic, industries, and basic survival, to a point. I'm not going to delve any further on the subject, as I have very much limited knowledge of environmental concerns.
Back to the matter of international issue; if the author can't sufficiently justify and resolve said issue on an international scale, then it wouldn't be something worth the attention of the international community, or so the my general interpretation of it goes.
by Talkistan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:07 am
United Territories of Progorica wrote:Thank you very much for an answer. It seems to me that this international issue criticism isn't usually used in a helpful way when discussing the shortfalls of a resolution. I think a lot of the time it is used like NatSov but just with different words. I can see if a resolution is very narrow and is unreasonably specific, then it couldn't be an international issue. It's just frustrating to see that it's argued that pollution isn't a international issue, and then no will make the same argument about limitation on hunting. Huh? Hunting is an international issue and pollution isn't? I think there should be some modly ruling about the use of "international issue" because there is no mention of it in the rules thread and its a recurring criticism that is annoying to constantly argue against.
by Alotopia » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:50 pm
Pantorrum wrote:I truly do think you a great RPer and hope we RP together again sometime.
by Araraukar » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:57 pm
Alotopia wrote:Why are all the WA proposals mostly weapon bans?
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Separatist Peoples » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:00 pm
Alotopia wrote:Why are all the WA proposals mostly weapon bans?
by The Akashic Records » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:49 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Alotopia wrote:Why are all the WA proposals mostly weapon bans?
Not sure what you mean. We have one for chemical weapons and one for mens incontinence. Oh, and a couple bad ones on animals and the environment.
They tend to follow something of a pattern. You'll see them follow real world issues as the news reports march by. With New Jersey legalizing gay marriage, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a draft repealing FoMA soon.
by The Dark Star Republic » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:20 am
Alotopia wrote:Why are all the WA proposals mostly weapon bans?
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