NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 3

[Sahrani DR]

There's a movie about it.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... an-secret/

Also, there is absolutely no reason to circumcise if there is no potential for harm if the circumcision isn't done.

EDIT: Also, female circumcision has been proven to be very dangerous to the girl that it is done on.

Interesting. I just haven't ever heard about circumcision being harmful before.

Well, it also does limit penile sensitivity.

[Lamaredia]

Interesting. I just haven't ever heard about circumcision being harmful before.

Well, it also does limit penile sensitivity.

In case someone tries to deny what you said, they can just read this.

Francelle: Touch sensitivity tests have identified the most sensitive regions of the male genitalia; in intact participants, these are all on the foreskin. Circumcision removes approximately 50% of the nerve endings on the penis, among these, fine touch nerve receptors called the Meissner Corpuscles. We all have Meissner Corpuscles in our fingertips; in the penis, they are only present on the foreskin. These are unique nerve endings which provide very nuanced feedback. Partners of intact men report that they have a better ability to pace themselves and greater control than do circumcised men, and this is almost certainly due in part to the presence of Meissner Corpuscles.

[Venaleria]

Final Vote Count: Order - B
To deal with issues pertinent to the Interior and Justice ministries

B(Z)A: PASSES
For: 29
Against: 14
Abstain: 8

NIA PASSES
For: 33
Against: 11
Abstain: 7

APDC PASSES
For: 41
Against: 6
Abstain: 4

OMCA PASSES
For: 42
Against: 8
Abstain: 1

CORC PASSES
For: 30
Against: 16
Abstain: 5

ATC PASSES
For: 41
Against: 4
Abstain: 6

CSA PASSES
For: 41
Against: 7
Abstain: 3

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I realize this is extremely late, sorry about that. This is the final vote count for the most recent vote.

[Costa Alegria]

I request that this be added to the queue in its relevant category please.

Improved Firearms Safety and Licencing Act
Category: Safety and Order
Urgency: High
Drafted By: Michael Blumenthal (NDP)
Sponsors: Aeken (NDP), Ainin (NDP), The Nihilistic View (IP), Divair (NDP)

RECOGNISING: That citizens of Aurentina have the ability to own firearms.

ACKNOWLEDGING: That this ability is provided for with the Sensible Firearms Act.

ALARMED: That said act was created without the safety of individual citizens in mind and allows citizens to use weapons which cause greater damage than firearms.

HEREBY: Repeals the Sensible Firearms Act and replaces it with a much safer and fairer act which governs the licencing, types of firearms and use of firearms on private property.

Article 1: Firearms & Other Weapons
1a: States the following firearms to be legally purchased by civilians in Aurentina:

• Semi-automatic rifles of any calibre.
• Pistols of any calibre.
• Bolt action rifles chambered up to and including .470 Nitro Express.
• Shotguns of any calibre.

1b: States the following firearms to be restricted for civilian purchase and use in Aurentina:

• Fully automatic and select-fire rifles of any calibre.
• Personal Defence Weapons (PDW)'s and submachine guns of any calibre.
• Machine guns of any calibre.
• Bolt action rifles above .470 Nitro Express.
• Smoothbore muskets.

1c: States the following weapons to be forbidden from civilian use and ownership in Aurentina:

• All military grade explosives.
• All Rocket Propelled Grenades.
• All hand grenades.
• All stun and tear gas grenades.
• All land mines.
• All grenade launchers.
• All chemical, bioligical and radiological weapons.
• All non-ceremonial or disarmed artillery.

1d: Exempts law enforcement agencies and the military from restricted weapons stated in Article 1b.
1c: Exempts the military from forbidden weapons in Article 1c (any law forbidding the possession of chemical, biololigcal and radiological weapons automatically renders this clause null and void) and exempts law enforcement agencies from tear gas and stun grenades.
1f: Dynamite is the only explosive to be exempt expressly for the purposes of demolition and mining only. Dynamite must be sold only to registered demolition and mining companies and must have police and or military supervision when used.

Article 2: Use of Firearms
2a: States that all firearms may not be carried in public unless by a law enforcement officer or a member of the military on duty/deployment/exercise. Firearms must be transported in a safe and locked container and must not have any ammunition in the weapon during transportation. Concealed firearms about the person are also illegal.
2b: Firearms may not be discharged in public. The following are an exemption to this rule:

• Law enforcement officers returning fire when under fire themselves or firing in emergency situations.
• Military and law enforcement salutes at ceremonies or at funerals and other significant occasions.
• Military forces on exercise.

2c: Firearms may not be dischared within 100 metres of a house or other inhabited building. Exemptions to this are the same as in Article 2b with an added exemption of licenced and registered firing ranges.
2d: Fully automatic and restricted firearms may be discharged with live ammunition only in licenced firing ranges. Firearms used in historical reenactments are exempt and must use blank ammunition.
2e: Firearms may be discharged on private land. Restrictions to building proxmimities apply. Dicharging firearms at other people or road vehicles on a public highway is also illegal. Discharging firearms at pets and livestock is also illegal.
2f: Children between the ages of 5 and 18 may use firearms with strict parental supervision either on private property or within fire ranges. Children may fire appropriately sized calibre weapons and are forbidden from firing shotguns and rifles over .30 calibre.
2g: All firearm users must be licenced and all firearms must be registered into a national database.

Article 3: Licencing & Restrictions
3a: States that the following firearms licences are mandatory in order to legally own firearms:

• Class III
• Class II
• Class I
• Dealer

3b: States the following conditions for each licence:

• Class III: Allows for the ownership of one or multiple pistols of any calibre and rifles of any calibre up to and including .30.
• Class II: Allows ownership of one or multiple semi-automatic rifles of any calibre, shotguns of any calibre and bolt-action rifles of between .30 and .470 Nitro Express.
• Class I: Allows ownership of one or multiple firearms that are restricted. These include machine guns, automatic or select fire rifles of any calibre, PDW's and submachine guns, machine guns and bolt action rifles over .470 Nitro Express.
• Dealer: Allows the owner to have a registered shop that sells firearms, ammunition and accessories as well as import firearms that are not subject to restrictions.

3c: All military personnel discharged for a violent crime via court martial are forbidden from owning firearms.
3d: The minimum age with which to acquire a firearms licence is 18 years of age.
3e: Applicants who have a history of violent crime on record or mental impairment are also prohibited from owning firearms.
3f: Mental illnesses are defined as per Subsection 1 of the Sensible Firearms Act and are therefore legal definitions in this act.

Article 4: Penalties and Violations:
4a: Hereby lists the following as penalties for violations of any regulations in this act:

• Unlicenced Possesion of a Firearm: £500 fine per firearm.
• Unregistered Firearm: £500 fine per firearm.
• Carrying a Firearm in Public: £500 fine.
• Discharging a Firearm in Public: £700 fine.
• Reckless Discharge of a Firearm: £1,000 fine and a possible revocation of licence and confiscation of firearms for multiple offences.
• Possession of a Prohibited Weapon: £1,500 fine per weapon and weapon confiscation.
• Sale of a Prohibited Weapon: £1,000 per weapon sold and confiscation of remaining stock and revocation of licence.

[Divair]

-snip-

NLP doesn't exist, yo.

[Unicario]

Submitted to the Chamber.

The First Higher Education Act (draft #3)
Authored By: Alexandra von Hohenzollern, Minister of Education
With the Aid of: The Progress Coalition
Urgency: Moderate
Section: Domestic Development
Sponsors: Sen. Erich Malgrave (MSP), Sen. Alfred Wintle (IND), Sen. [NEO Rome Republic] (NDP), Sara Wagenknecht (SAP)

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Preamble

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Declaring that the international cost of education is too high to sustain intelligent workforce and new generations of college graduates,

Hereby enacts the document below:

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The Senate of Aurentina shall mandate that all educational centers in the country immediately abolish any/all tuition fees, and instead provide free, complete education for the masses of Aurentina, regardless of economic status, but rather on merit of educational excellence.

The Senate will ensure that taxes levied to pay for college and university expenses not be abused. Government money to help continue cultivating generations of intelligent Aurentines shall be given freely, but schools who abuse this may be subject to temporary closure and investigation by police for fraud.

Schools which refuse to enact this law shall have their charter immediately revoked, and be closed. Their charter will be granted to others who seek to establish an institution of higher education in Aurentina, provided they comply with this law.

I. Specification of Abuse

Abuse of Funding, as defined in this law would mean any unjustified use of funding to buy personal objects, or anything that has no benefit to the school at all, the student body, or the faculty of the school while on the job. If abuse is suspected, the police and government will investigate school expenses and pinpoint if anything seems unjustified, and demand an explanation, if necessary.

II. Teacher Unions

Teachers currently employed in higher educational facilities (colleges, universities, trade schools, etc.) shall be given government support to form unions to make requests clear, for higher pay or whatever materials they may need for the classroom. These Unions may list their complains to the Board of Governors in the school, who may then return these complaints to the Ministry of Education. The Ministry of Education then may request a change in the Education Budget to fit with these demands.

The Ministry of Education and Board of Governors may at any time, refuse or "water-down" the requests of the teachers union.

Revision 2: Added specification of punishment for schools who refuse to accept this law.
Revision 3: Changed scope, added Clause 1 and Clause 2, about Abuse and Teachers Unions.
Revision 4: Changed wording of Clause II.

[Costa Alegria]

-snip-

NLP doesn't exist, yo.

Then who is Nihl with?

Also, please be of addings to the same category as the above also:

Private Security Regulation and Licencing Act
Category: Safety and Order
Drafted By: Michael Blumenthal (NDP)
Urgency: Moderate
Sponsors: Ainin: (NDP), Britanno (NDP), Neo Rome Republic (NDP), Beta Test (NDP)

RECOGNISING: That the government of Aurentina has provided for individuals and businesses to establish private security companies.

NOTING: That Article 5 of the Internal Security Act provides a basic template for private security companies to operate.

ALARMED: That there was no following bill to outline the jurisdiction of private security companies nor a bill proposing regulations on said security companies thus allowing for organisations employing these companies to exploit loopholes within the system.

HEREBY: Establishes a framework within which all registered private security companies must operate.

Article 1: Licencing
1a: Reaffirms the clauses of Article 5 of the Internal Security Act with regards to licencing with Ofsecure.
1b: Futher adds that it is mandatory for all companies and individuals to be registered with Ofsecure. Failure to do so will incur a fine of £1500 plus a further £500 for every employee not registered.
1c: Mandates that all Ofsecure registered employees must be paid minimum wage at the very least.
1d: Mandates that all Ofsecure registered companies must not be affiliated within any political organisation, foreign or domestic.

Article 2: On Jurisdiction and Powers
2a: Private security employees may detain tresspassers or other persons on premises under the ownership of their employer. This power does not extend beyond the boundaries of said premises nor to land owned by any local, provincial or central government. Powers may also extend to the proximity of the person they are protecting and are only unitlised if the person is in extreme danger.
2b: Further adds to Article 2a by stating that powers of detention must only be for the safe capture and transfer of tresspassers and other persons to police.
2c: It is illegal to refuse to hand over a tresspasser or other person over to police after detention. It is also illegal to beat or toture the detainee. Breaches of this will result in charges laid against the employee and fines of £10,000 to the employer and security company.

Article 3: On Uniform and Equipment
3a: Further adds to Article 5f of the Internal Security Act by stating that uniforms of private security employees may only be civilian in nature and explicitly bans any and all military clothing, including fatigues, camouflage and other military grade uniform equipment, including combat helmets.
3b: Further adds that employees may only wear stab proof vests when on active duty only.
3c: Reaffirms the clauses defined in the First Amendment to the Internal Security Act.
3d: States that the clauses in the First Amendment to the Internal Security Act are valid in this Act on the condition of the First Amendment to the Internal Security Act's failure to pass.
3e: Adds to the proposed Section 5h by mandating that security employees are forbidden from utilising military grade weapons.
3f: Defines military grade weapons as the following:

• All fully automatic weapons, such as submachine gunes, machine guns, assault rifles, machine pistols and others.
• All sniper rifles of any calibre.
• All explosives. These include Rocket Propelled Grenades, hand grenades, high explosives etc.
• Grenade launchers.
• All artillery.

3g: Allows private security employees to be equipped with one pistol whilst on duty. Companies may have semi-automatic rifles in the premises but these must be used only in emergency situations where the direct security of the premises or the employees is threatened.
3h: All weapons must comply with relevant government firearms legislation.
3i: All weapons may be carried within the premises of the employer only. Carrying weapons in public shall be deemed illegal.
3j: Discharge of firearms for training purposes may not be carried out anywhere other than an approved firing range.
3k: Exemptions to this are in emergency situations where the safety of the employee or employer is directly threatened.
3l: Provides for companies to use or purchase civilian vehicles that have armour, such as kevlar windows or armoured plating.
3m: Further adds to Section 5m of the First Amendment to the Internal Security Act by declaring that armoured personnel carriers (tracked or wheeled) may not be used by private security companies.
3n: Mandates that all drivers and vehicles must be licenced and registered accordingly.
3o: States that breaches of the clauses stated above will incur penalties and fines as deemed appropriate by law enforcement agencies.

[Divair]

Then who is Nihl with?

No clue.

[Costa Alegria]

Then who is Nihl with?

No clue.

I'll list him as independent then.

[Mediciano]

No clue.

I'll list him as independent then.

He's in the Iron Party (IP)

[Costa Alegria]

He's in the Iron Party (IP)

Weird. Well, there's always a first.

[The Nihilistic view]

He's in the Iron Party (IP)

Weird. Well, there's always a first.

Yeah, i did not think the NDP would accept me so I joined my friends.

[Beta Test]

Weird. Well, there's always a first.

Yeah, i did not think the NDP would accept me so I joined my friends.

I would accept you.

[The Nihilistic view]

Yeah, i did not think the NDP would accept me so I joined my friends.

I would accept you.

You were not who I had in mind.

[Beta Test]

I would accept you.

You were not who I had in mind.

I didn't think so.

[Yanalia]

I would like to point out that the remarks have not been withdrawn, and that Costa has posted in the Lobby since then.

He has not, however, posted in the chamber since then, which is the relevant thing.

I would like to point out that he has now, and the remarks are not withdrawn.

[Costa Alegria]

He has not, however, posted in the chamber since then, which is the relevant thing.

I would like to point out that he has now, and the remarks are not withdrawn.

The hell are you talking about?

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Submitted to the Chamber.

The First Higher Education Act (draft #3)
Authored By: Alexandra von Hohenzollern, Minister of Education
With the Aid of: The Progress Coalition
Urgency: Moderate
Sponsors: Sen. Erich Malgrave (MSP), Sen. Alfred Wintle (IND), Sen. [NEO Rome Republic] (NDP), Sara Wagenknecht (SAP)

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Preamble

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Declaring that the international cost of education is too high to sustain intelligent workforce and new generations of college graduates,

Hereby enacts the document below:

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The Senate of Aurentina shall mandate that all educational centers in the country immediately abolish any/all tuition fees, and instead provide free, complete education for the masses of Aurentina, regardless of economic status, but rather on merit of educational excellence.

The Senate will ensure that taxes levied to pay for college and university expenses not be abused. Government money to help continue cultivating generations of intelligent Aurentines shall be given freely, but schools who abuse this may be subject to temporary closure and investigation by police for fraud.

Schools which refuse to enact this law shall have their charter immediately revoked, and be closed. Their charter will be granted to others who seek to establish an institution of higher education in Aurentina, provided they comply with this law.

I. Specification of Abuse

Abuse of Funding, as defined in this law would mean any unjustified use of funding to buy personal objects, or anything that has no benefit to the school at all, the student body, or the faculty of the school while on the job. If abuse is suspected, the police and government will investigate school expenses and pinpoint if anything seems unjustified, and demand an explanation, if necessary.

II. Teacher Unions

Teachers currently employed in higher educational facilities (colleges, universities, trade schools, etc.) shall be given government support to form unions to make requests clear, for higher pay or whatever materials they may need for the classroom. These Unions may list their complains to the Board of Governors in the school, who may then return these complaints to the Ministry of Education. The Ministry of Education then may request a change in the Education Budget to fit with these demands.

The Ministry of Education and Board of Governors may at any time, refuse or "water-down" the requests of the teachers union.

Revision 2: Added specification of punishment for schools who refuse to accept this law.
Revision 3: Changed scope, added Clause 1 and Clause 2, about Abuse and Teachers Unions.
Revision 4: Changed wording of Clause II.

May I have a SIMBEDS category?

[Senate President pro Tempore]

I would like to point out that he has now, and the remarks are not withdrawn.

The hell are you talking about?

This: viewtopic.php?p=16726356#p16726356

And: viewtopic.php?p=16726562#p16726562

[Maklohi Vai]

I would like to point out that he has now, and the remarks are not withdrawn.

The hell are you talking about?

viewtopic.php?p=16725114#p16725114

A point of order was raised and upheld based on this comment.

[Costa Alegria]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16725114#p16725114

A point of order was raised and upheld based on this comment.

And you think it was directed against senators?

[Maklohi Vai]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=16725114#p16725114

A point of order was raised and upheld based on this comment.

And you think it was directed against senators?

Yes, I did. If it wasn't, however, it is still inappropriate language for the camber and still warrants a withdrawal.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

The Improved Firearms Safety and Licencing Act, as well as the Private Security Regulation and Licencing Act, cannot be added to Order at the present time because it is at debate.

[Costa Alegria]

The Improved Firearms Safety and Licencing Act, as well as the Private Security Regulation and Licencing Act, cannot be added to Order at the present time because it is at debate.

What do you mean "at debate"?

[Yanalia]

The Improved Firearms Safety and Licencing Act, as well as the Private Security Regulation and Licencing Act, cannot be added to Order at the present time because it is at debate.

What do you mean "at debate"?

Apologies, bad sentence. The Order category is at debate, which means that under the Third Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act the bills cannot be added to it.