"Infinitus Dominium" Grand OOC

[Yortini Systems]

I want to name one of my RP threads "...Therefore I Am...". It would explore the morality of the Artificials, and pose the question, do they have souls?

That entirely depends. A soul, as understood by the Ascended, is not an inherent quality of any being. All sapient creatures possess the spark of the divine, given to them by the breath of the All-Sire. Whether Potentials corrupt that flame or walk in the Light determines if they truly bear the touch of the Omnissah, the Almighty descended to swell in our hearts.

A soul to the Artificials, is something present in all Artificials, that can be corrupted by temptings of the darkness. They don't see themselves as robots, because they have no standards to rank themselves upon. All they have is a dead world, with nothing but the sand and foundations of buildings long since crumbled to learn from. Who's to say humans aren't robots to some weird energy society.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I'll have you know that our "pointy sticks" are of the finest quality... And if you run, you'll find them to be surprisingly aerodynamic as well.

I see what you did there... applying advanced aerodynamics to the common stickus-pointus to create a master weapon!

Your stick of very little concern when all nuclear matter (and indeed the laws of physics) in the area breaks down around you.

[Finium]

I see what you did there... applying advanced aerodynamics to the common stickus-pointus to create a master weapon!

Your stick of very little concern when all nuclear matter (and indeed the laws of physics) in the area breaks down around you.

The laws of physics never "break", but they are sometimes repealed.

[Equalsun Empire]

Your stick of very little concern when all nuclear matter (and indeed the laws of physics) in the area breaks down around you.

The laws of physics never "break", but they are sometimes repealed.

My civilization tends to do this quite frequently.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Your stick of very little concern when all nuclear matter (and indeed the laws of physics) in the area breaks down around you.

The laws of physics never "break", but they are sometimes repealed.

All laws bend and break, some require more force than others.

[G-Tech Corporation]

That entirely depends. A soul, as understood by the Ascended, is not an inherent quality of any being. All sapient creatures possess the spark of the divine, given to them by the breath of the All-Sire. Whether Potentials corrupt that flame or walk in the Light determines if they truly bear the touch of the Omnissah, the Almighty descended to swell in our hearts.

A soul to the Artificials, is something present in all Artificials, that can be corrupted by temptings of the darkness. They don't see themselves as robots, because they have no standards to rank themselves upon. All they have is a dead world, with nothing but the sand and foundations of buildings long since crumbled to learn from. Who's to say humans aren't robots to some weird energy society.

Ah, so your synthetics have developed a sense of morality?

I see what you did there... applying advanced aerodynamics to the common stickus-pointus to create a master weapon!

Your stick of very little concern when all nuclear matter (and indeed the laws of physics) in the area breaks down around you.

Stick goes poof. Cave man sad.

Then cave man go poof too. Cave man not sad any more.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Stick goes poof. Cave man sad.

Then cave man go poof too. Cave man not sad any more.

Such is life, would you disagree?

[Yortini Systems]

I'm thinking that the Artificials don't even truly understand what they are. They think of themselves as alive, and they think of organics as gods. Just as we view ourselves, composed of cells, alive. It's hard to explain what I'm saying but, just as Adam is no God, but merely created in the image of one. So too are the Artificials, created in the image of their gods, seeing themselves as a normal organism.

That is very interesting. The Colours themselves will not be sure of what the Artificials are. Can a being with no flesh, and thus no soul, be capable of creating one?

Sure, the Artificials aren't made up of cells, or any organic matter. Though, they have art, music, love and entertainment just as any biological organism does. Is flesh a prerequisite for having a soul?

[Nyte]

Note to self... Stay away from G-Tech and The Nuclear Fist...

[Yortini Systems]

A soul to the Artificials, is something present in all Artificials, that can be corrupted by temptings of the darkness. They don't see themselves as robots, because they have no standards to rank themselves upon. All they have is a dead world, with nothing but the sand and foundations of buildings long since crumbled to learn from. Who's to say humans aren't robots to some weird energy society.

Ah, so your synthetics have developed a sense of morality?

More than just a system of morality, the Synths have developed an entire religion. Created by the first Artificials, the teachings are found in the scriptures called The Book of Truths.

[Pavlostani]

Civilization Name: The Pavlostani Supremacy
Civilization Age: 2,981 Years

Government Type: The government is high authoritarian, and bears resemblance to modern "socialist" states. A single Premier presides over the Politburo, which contains the ministers that administer the nation. Armed Forces are commanded by the Minister of War, the economy is regulated by the Minister of Finance, etc.
Government Information: The ruling Premier is Vladimir Mirov. The Minister of War is named Caeda Irawondona, made famous in the Galora campaigns. The Minister of Finance is Pavel Telov, the Minister of Foreign Affairs is Vladimir Helgraf.
Government Status: Relatively stable. Minor insurrections are occurring, due to the discontent with the totalitarian benevolent and peaceful government. Some separatist leaning politicians are in power though, such as Helgraf.
Population: Approximately 120 billion inhabitants.

Home World/Capitol: Pavlostani: Gaia Atlia: Attograd
Capital Status: The capital itself is actually quite nice. A healthy trade is established in the area as tourism is booming due to nearby nebulae. A darker side to the capital world exists in the Oort Cloud, where a pirate base is established that regularly waylays travelers.
Notable locations and such: Warric, the home of the Pavlostani military and major shipyards, the Vilan Boneyard, the site of an ancient battle, lifeless hulks of ships lie there, frequented by militias.
Founding Species: Humans
Other Species: The Supremacy claims to have a pure human population, likely due to extreme xenophobia. Several alien races exist, most are confined to labor camps or other hard labor projects.
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Society and Cultural information: The Pavlostani public are mainly uninformed of the happenings of the galaxy, and are quite content, with the exception of a few. These people are being quietly cracked down on by the government, their military being passed off as pirates to the public. Most join militias or insurrections. While they are rather small, they are quickly gaining power.
Society Status At the moment, the people are mainly peaceful, with the exception of a few malcontents.
Languages Pavlostani (Similar to Russian)
Economy: I'd give it a 3. Normally, the Pavlostani normally possess a powerful economy, but recent projects have drained it.
Industry: Industrial capacity is considerable. The Pavlostani are renowned for their manufacturing and industrial projects, such is most recently being applied for secret military projects.
Production/Construction: Production is quick, the Pavlostani can synthesize most materials, some must be mined, and large slave forces construction crews mean lots of help with the production.

Soopah Powah: Industrial

Specialties/Advanced Sciences: Particle physics, laser optics, gravitational manipulation,
Strengths: Manufacturing, industry
Weaknesses: Growing discontent, piracy, weakened economy,
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Map Claim Size: 3
Grid Coordinates: FA, GA, HA
Map Claim Color: Blue

Holdings/Territory:

Colonization/expansion: Basically, the Minister of War presents the idea to the Premier. If the Premier approves it, the Minister of War organizes a fleet and sets course for the target. The Pavlostani normally attempt to peacefully take the planet, however, are known for ruthlessness if diplomacy fails. After seizing the target planets, supplies are beamed and reconstruction begins. The public have no say, and often no knowledge of such an event until several months afterwards when the government declares the peaceful acquisition of a new system. Common reasons for expansion is to find materials for a large project.
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Foreign policy: Expansionism
Diplomacy: If a nation called the Holy Dominion of Inesea joins, we will most likely be on good terms with them. Otherwise, we have few foreign relations.

Technological Age: The Pavlostani are a few millennia more advanced than modern humans. We are roughly on par with the Galactic Empire.
FTL Capabilities: Warp drive at its highest (Warp 10) allows for infinite velocity. Obviously, we cannot achieve this. The highest attainable warp factor, 9.9999 can reach speeds up to 199,516 times the speed of light. This requires tremendous energy though, and can only be maintained for a few seconds at a time. Normal military speeds are warp seven, 656 times the speed of light.
Inter Planetary Travel Normally though warp drive. Less common travel such as slipspace and hyperdrive are gaining popularity with the Pavlostani Hipster Movement.
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Military Information: The Pavlostani, having been reclusive for years, possess rather small fleets. However, with planned expansion campaigns, the Pavlostani are developing powerful new weapons and attempting to quickly build ships. Antimatter, plasma, and laser weaponry are widely seen throughout the Pavlostani Fleet. On land, foot soldiers generally use phaser or disruptor weaponry. Walkers and other heavy armor are heavily seen on land.
Doctrine: The Minister of War presides over the entire military. Below him, five Fleet Admirals exist, reporting directly to the Minister. The Pavlostani military is known for usage of asymmetrical tactics and brutality.

Army: Foot soldiers, walkers and tanks. Energy weapons are used by the soldiers. Land forces are presided over by General Belstrad.

Navy: The Navy is considered a frigate navy, while carriers are beginning to appear more commonly. Five Fleet Admirals collectively control the fleet.

Strengths: High quality, superweapons (Basically, the Eviscerator, which is currently unfinished)
Weaknesses: Small numbers, alleged corruption in the higher ranks
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NS activity: Normally at night, or on weekends. On weekdays, the earliest I'm normally on is 7:00 PM, Eastern Standard Time.
Technological Bases: I draw inspiration from Star Trek and Star Wars, though I do my best for my bases to be a pure, Pavlostani style.
Prior RP links:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=260876

[The Nuclear Fist]

That is very interesting. The Colours themselves will not be sure of what the Artificials are. Can a being with no flesh, and thus no soul, be capable of creating one?

Sure, the Artificials aren't made up of cells, or any organic matter. Though, they have art, music, love and entertainment just as any biological organism does. Is flesh a prerequisite for having a soul?

You must have been created naturally to have a soul. Born of flesh, or whatever your equivalent is. An artificially constructed lifeform is a golem, a useful tool but not a being with a soul.

But is a creature who has replaced its metal with flesh not worthy? Can it not be said these amalgamations of tissue and thought warrant a soul in itself?

[Finium]

The laws of physics never "break", but they are sometimes repealed.

All laws bend and break, some require more force than others.

You cannot have force without physics

[Equalsun Empire]

Note to self... Stay away from G-Tech and The Nuclear Fist...

I think that is wise... Their people are terrifying

[G-Tech Corporation]

Note to self... Stay away from G-Tech and The Nuclear Fist...

But the radioactive out-of-context creatures just want to cuddle.

Oceans are salty because of the tears of sharks that have never been hugged.

[Equalsun Empire]

All laws bend and break, some require more force than others.

You cannot have force without physics

Challenge accepted

[The Nuclear Fist]

Note to self... Stay away from G-Tech and The Nuclear Fist...

I think that is wise... Their people are terrifying

How can you fear a Colour? Your people are truly illogical.

[Yortini Systems]

Sure, the Artificials aren't made up of cells, or any organic matter. Though, they have art, music, love and entertainment just as any biological organism does. Is flesh a prerequisite for having a soul?

You must have been created naturally to have a soul. Born of flesh, or whatever your equivalent is. An artificially constructed lifeform is a golem, a useful tool but not a being with a soul.

But is a creature who has replaced its metal with flesh not worthy? Can it not be said these amalgamations of tissue and thought warrant a soul in itself?

But weren't the colors of midnight themselves born of a creator? How are they any different?

[The Nuclear Fist]

But weren't the colors of midnight themselves born of a creator? How are they any different?

They are living creatures, with their equivalent of flesh. Wholy biological, if such a word can be applied to them, and self-propagating.

[Finium]

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[Taeji]

So, here is my concept..... Application is not done yet but...

"Long time ago, there lived a crystalline species, they were F---- powerful and strong. Their body could withstand various energy weapons and kinetic weapons. Their militaristic civilization was so powerful that they could terminate several other civilizations! HOWEVER, their luck didn't last long. They found out some weird liquid called Dihydrogen Monoxide, or DHMO. Their solid bodies were dissolved instantly upon the contact with that element. Thus, the counterattack of once victims had begun, they were doused with DHMO, or more commonly known as Water. Their whole system was submerged in water during the downfall. They were lost in memories of space after that... Even the civilization who revenged them had fallen as the time has past... Too bad, a star from one of their ancient solar systems became a red giant and vaporized the water. These thinking crystals had undergone the stage of evolution from the beginning, and erected another civilization. Fortunately, they have no memories left about the past tyrannic, brutal, oppressive, and world-consuming civilization. But, their future will depend on which civilization they are about to contact at this very moment."

Sorry for my bad grammar.

[Yortini Systems]

But weren't the colors of midnight themselves born of a creator? How are they any different?

They are living creatures, with their equivalent of flesh. Wholy biological, if such a word can be applied to them, and self-propagating.

But weren't they created by like the Terror at Midnight or something? I remember you saying they were created by another race.

[The Nuclear Fist]

They are living creatures, with their equivalent of flesh. Wholy biological, if such a word can be applied to them, and self-propagating.

But weren't they created by like the Terror at Midnight or something? I remember you saying they were created by another race.

They were created as a self-propagating biological weapon by an extinct civilization known as the Great Race. Once they reached a size large enough to pool their collective consciousness, they partially 'awoke' the Terror-at-Midnight and were resultingly enslaved.

Fun fact: The Great Swarm is naturally attracted by large, dense populations. Such glows like bright lights in the darkness.

[Entaurii]

So, here is my concept..... Application is not done yet but...

"Long time ago, there lived a crystalline species, they were F---- powerful and strong. Their body could withstand various energy weapons and kinetic weapons. Their militaristic civilization was so powerful that they could terminate several other civilizations! HOWEVER, their luck didn't last long. They found out some weird liquid called Dihydrogen Monoxide, or DHMO. Their solid bodies were dissolved instantly upon the contact with that element. Thus, the counterattack of once victims had begun, they were doused with DHMO, or more commonly known as Water. Their whole system was submerged in water during the downfall. They were lost in memories of space after that... Even the civilization who revenged them had fallen as the time has past... Too bad, a star from one of their ancient solar systems became a red giant and vaporized the water. These thinking crystals had undergone the stage of evolution from the beginning, and erected another civilization. Fortunately, they have no memories left about the past tyrannic, brutal, oppressive, and world-consuming civilization. But, their future will depend on which civilization they are about to contact at this very moment."

Sorry for my bad grammar.

You're a nation of sentient salt crystals?

[Taeji]

So, here is my concept..... Application is not done yet but...

"Long time ago, there lived a crystalline species, they were F---- powerful and strong. Their body could withstand various energy weapons and kinetic weapons. Their militaristic civilization was so powerful that they could terminate several other civilizations! HOWEVER, their luck didn't last long. They found out some weird liquid called Dihydrogen Monoxide, or DHMO. Their solid bodies were dissolved instantly upon the contact with that element. Thus, the counterattack of once victims had begun, they were doused with DHMO, or more commonly known as Water. Their whole system was submerged in water during the downfall. They were lost in memories of space after that... Even the civilization who revenged them had fallen as the time has past... Too bad, a star from one of their ancient solar systems became a red giant and vaporized the water. These thinking crystals had undergone the stage of evolution from the beginning, and erected another civilization. Fortunately, they have no memories left about the past tyrannic, brutal, oppressive, and world-consuming civilization. But, their future will depend on which civilization they are about to contact at this very moment."

Sorry for my bad grammar.

You're a nation of sentient salt crystals?

lol, salt! That would be good, but I'm afraid that people will think it is a joke if I name them 'salt'! Technically, not only salts dissolves on water..... Anyway, is it creative enough ?