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Postby Geilinor » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:32 pm

Belmaria wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:For the most part, but remember that my political compass is only +2.75 Right, and this is partially because I support things like labor unions, tariffs, safety regulations, etc., that would benefit and protect Aurentine jobs and workers.

My budget (the official opposition budget) includes a 5% protective tariff.

I oppose this as well. The idea of a "Single market" (as the EU likes to put it) is ridiculous.

How are laissez-faire capitalists opposed to free trade? Meanwhile, the Progress Coalition seems to support more free trade than the libertarians. :rofl:
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Postby Costa Alegria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:43 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:Why is my licencing and registration bill not included in any of the government bill categories?
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Postby Skeckoa » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Belmaria wrote:I oppose this as well. The idea of a "Single market" (as the EU likes to put it) is ridiculous.

How are laissez-faire capitalists opposed to free trade? Meanwhile, the Progress Coalition seems to support more free trade than the libertarians. :rofl:

Quite sad, no? This is absurd.
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Postby Django Unchained » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:14 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Belmaria wrote:I oppose this as well. The idea of a "Single market" (as the EU likes to put it) is ridiculous.

How are laissez-faire capitalists opposed to free trade? Meanwhile, the Progress Coalition seems to support more free trade than the libertarians. :rofl:


Because the EEC is not a pure Free trade agreement. That is my own objections.
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Postby Belmaria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:33 pm

Django Unchained wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How are laissez-faire capitalists opposed to free trade? Meanwhile, the Progress Coalition seems to support more free trade than the libertarians. :rofl:


Because the EEC is not a pure Free trade agreement. That is my own objections.

Most "free trade" is, in fact, controlled by a regional, continental, or global governing body. Therefore, I contend that it is not "free" at all. I support real free trade, but in its current form I do not support the EEC.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:03 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Django Unchained wrote:
Because the EEC is not a pure Free trade agreement. That is my own objections.

Most "free trade" is, in fact, controlled by a regional, continental, or global governing body. Therefore, I contend that it is not "free" at all. I support real free trade, but in its current form I do not support the EEC.


I guess maybe there are a few people who need to read up about the clauses and bodies that oversee this supposed "free trade". Anything that comes with legal clauses or is paid for to the tune of Billions is not free at all, the senate would do well to remember it.
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Postby Belmaria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:09 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Most "free trade" is, in fact, controlled by a regional, continental, or global governing body. Therefore, I contend that it is not "free" at all. I support real free trade, but in its current form I do not support the EEC.


I guess maybe there are a few people who need to read up about the clauses and bodies that oversee this supposed "free trade". Anything that comes with legal clauses or is paid for to the tune of Billions is not free at all, the senate would do well to remember it.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:06 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Most "free trade" is, in fact, controlled by a regional, continental, or global governing body. Therefore, I contend that it is not "free" at all. I support real free trade, but in its current form I do not support the EEC.

is paid for to the tune of Billions is not free at all, the senate would do well to remember it.

:palm: We wouldn't pay anything, which is why Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein joined EFTA but not the EU.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:16 pm

This bill has enough sponsors. Add this to the Miscellaneous category.

Aurentine Postal Services Act
Co-Authors:Beta Test, Ainin Sponsors:New Zepuha, Geilnor, Polvia
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Realizing that Aurentina currently has no national postal service.
Concerned that this may mean the poor and disadvantaged may not be able to afford private mail

SECTION 1: FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE NATIONAL CENSUS BUREAU ESTABLISHMENT ACT
The National Census Bureau is mandated to create "census-designated areas", concentrations of population identified for statistical purposes.
The land of Aurentina must be split into between 900 and 1,000 census-designated areas (CDAs), that must each have between 1,000 and 10,000 residents.
The Minister of Finance and the Treasury may abolish and create CDAs at their discretion, but following the aforementioned requirements.

SECTION 2: DUTIES
The Aurentine Postal Service (APS) shall be charged with the duty of delivering letters, parcels and other documents to the people of the Aurentine Commonwealth, and will be funded by the budget of the Ministry of Finance and the Treasury.
The APS shall establish at least one office in each CDA.
The APS shall transport mail across the country every day of the week, except Sunday.
The APS will charge only the price of a postal stamp and will not add anymore fees to the fee of the stamp.
The price of a stamp is fixed by the Auditor-General of Aurentina on the advice of the Minister of Finance and the Treasury.
The APS is mandated to serve every registered address on Aurentine land.

SECTION 3: ORGANISATION
APS offices shall be overseen by a Branch Postmaster.
Each Postmaster shall be appointed by and report back to the central APS office in Leishaagen.
The Office of the Postmaster-General is created, headed by a Postmaster-General, appointed by the Council of Ministers.
The APS is a non-profit organisation
The salaries of the management shall be set by the Ministry of Finance and Treasury
SECTION 4: CRIMES IN WRITING
Unsolicited messaging is defined as the sending of advertisement through the mail system seven days after being requested to desist from the recipient. It is a contravention.
Harassment is defined as sending threatening or inappropriate messages through the postal service after an initial request to desist from the recipient. It is a derelict.
Transport of Dangerous Materials is the intended sending of undeclared explosive, toxic or poisonous items through the mail system. It is a felony.
Accidental Transport of Dangerous Materials is the unintended sending of undeclared explosive, toxic or poisonous items through the mail system. It is a contravention.

Hereby establishes the Aurentine Postal Service
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:01 pm

I, Beta Test, give Ainin permission to vote on my behalf for now until the 22nd of September.
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:12 am

Venaleria wrote:Vote Count on the International Development Section A Category
Vote Ends: When PoS or PpT say so.


Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye: 45
Nay: 8
Abstain: 6

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye: 33
Nay: 23
Abstain: 3

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye: 39
Nay: 13
Abstain: 7

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye: 41
Nay: 15
Abstain: 3

INTERPOL Act
Aye: 54
Nay: 2
Abstain: 3

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye: 19
Nay: 30
Abstain: 10

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project: US-984XN
Aye: 25
Nay: 27
Abstain: 7


This does not include Distruzio or Regnum's votes, as I am unclear to their meanings.

What would you have me clarify, sir?
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:55 am

Distruzio wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Vote Count on the International Development Section A Category
Vote Ends: When PoS or PpT say so.


Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye: 45
Nay: 8
Abstain: 6

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye: 33
Nay: 23
Abstain: 3

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye: 39
Nay: 13
Abstain: 7

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye: 41
Nay: 15
Abstain: 3

INTERPOL Act
Aye: 54
Nay: 2
Abstain: 3

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye: 19
Nay: 30
Abstain: 10

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project: US-984XN
Aye: 25
Nay: 27
Abstain: 7


This does not include Distruzio or Regnum's votes, as I am unclear to their meanings.

What would you have me clarify, sir?

Even though the vote is over, I believe that you only voted on the MCN Act, and not anything else. So he awaited your votes on the other bills.
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Postby Glasgia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:04 am

Lamaredia wrote:
Distruzio wrote:What would you have me clarify, sir?

Even though the vote is over, I believe that you only voted on the MCN Act, and not anything else. So he awaited your votes on the other bills.


He added them in a later vote count anyway.No need to worry.

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Belmaria wrote:Most "free trade" is, in fact, controlled by a regional, continental, or global governing body. Therefore, I contend that it is not "free" at all. I support real free trade, but in its current form I do not support the EEC.


I guess maybe there are a few people who need to read up about the clauses and bodies that oversee this supposed "free trade". Anything that comes with legal clauses or is paid for to the tune of Billions is not free at all, the senate would do well to remember it.


What's true free trade then? The EFTA allows for free trade alongside other minor benefits, such as freedom of people and services which we do not technically have to comply with, and is almost entirely free of charge. What is the alternative?
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Postby Venaleria » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:10 am

Distruzio wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Vote Count on the International Development Section A Category
Vote Ends: When PoS or PpT say so.


Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye: 45
Nay: 8
Abstain: 6

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye: 33
Nay: 23
Abstain: 3

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye: 39
Nay: 13
Abstain: 7

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye: 41
Nay: 15
Abstain: 3

INTERPOL Act
Aye: 54
Nay: 2
Abstain: 3

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye: 19
Nay: 30
Abstain: 10

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project: US-984XN
Aye: 25
Nay: 27
Abstain: 7


This does not include Distruzio or Regnum's votes, as I am unclear to their meanings.

What would you have me clarify, sir?


You only voted for one act, so I waited for you to say if that was all you wanted to vote on, or if you made a mistake. In the end, since you did not reply, I just added in that singular vote anyways.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:11 am

This Bill has gained enough sponsors:

Nutritional Information and Genetically Modified Organism Labeling Act

Co-Sponsors: The Union of the West, New Zepuha, Aden Protectorate , Macedonian Grand Empire, Katepano

(Category: Health, Strength:Moderate)

The Aurentine Senate,

RECOGNIZING, that nutrients are vital to human for growth and maintenance of good health;

THEREFORE RECOGNIZING, that this importance of nutritional labels to show nutrients in foods;

Hereby:

1. REQUIRES that all food producing companies place nutritional labels on their food products,

2. REQUIRES that all restaurants make nutritional information available on request,

3. TASKS the Health Ministry to perform checks on the accuracy of the nutritional labels used by restaurants, food producing companies, etc... annually, or upon petition of any private person or group,

4. TASKS the Health Ministry to define standards for the labels used,

FURTHER,

RECOGNIZING, that many products contain many ingredients that are genetically modified;

NOTING, that there are benefits to genetically modified organisms, such as increased pest and disease resistance, drought tolerance, and increased food supply;

RECOGNIZING, that there are many negative effects of genetically modified organisms, such as Introducing allergens and toxins to food, accidental contamination between genetically modified and non-genetically modified foods,
antibiotic resistance, and adversely changing the nutrient content of a crop;

Hereby:

1. DEFINES, genetically modified food (GMF) as any food that are produced from genetically modified organisms,

2. DEFINES, genetically modified organism (GMO) as an organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques,

3. REQUIRES all products containing GMO's, such as GMF's, to have a label stating that the product has been genetically modified and what modification was done to it,

4. REQUIRES, that all restaurants with GMF's on their menus have a label by them stating that the product is a GMO and make information about what modification was done to the product available upon request,

5. TASKS the Health Ministry to perform checks on the accuracy of these labels annually, or upon petition of any private person or group,

6. TASKS the Health Ministry to define standards for GMO and GMF labelling.

FURTHER,

SETS the minimum punishment for violations as $1,000 per violation, and the maximum punishment as $1,000,000 per violation.

GRANTS the Health Ministry discretion in determining the amount of the penalty based on the nature and extent of the violation and the nature and extent of the harm resulting from the violation.

Please add it to the Health category!
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Postby Vairikai Sari » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:18 am

Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye

INTERPOL Act
Aye

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project
Aye

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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:20 am

Vairikai Sari wrote:Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye

INTERPOL Act
Aye

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project
Aye


Voting ended 2 days ago.....the next vote will start within 6 hours....
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Postby Vairikai Sari » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:21 am

Senate President pro Tempore wrote:
Vairikai Sari wrote:Second Amendment to the International Law Act
Aye

Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations
Aye

Ratification of the Non-Proliferation Treaty
Aye

Declaration of Aurentine Neutrality Act
Aye

INTERPOL Act

Aurentine Foreign Legion Creation Act
Aye

Condemnation of United States National Security Agency Project
Aye


Voting ended 2 days ago.....the next vote will start within 6 hours....

Awfully sorry.

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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:23 am

Vairikai Sari wrote:
Senate President pro Tempore wrote:
Voting ended 2 days ago.....the next vote will start within 6 hours....

Awfully sorry.


No problem, the way you can tell is if people are posting votes or if they are posting paragraphs on their opinion of bill so-and-so.
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Postby Vairikai Sari » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:52 am

I, Vairikai Sari, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:05 am

I, Maklohi Vai, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.
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Postby Venaleria » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:07 am

I, Venaleria, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.
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Postby Britanno » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:09 am

I, Britanno, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.
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Postby Glasgia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:09 am

I, Glasgia, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:19 am

I, Lamaredia, give Ainin permission to second on my behalf for a motion to move the Repeal First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act into a differing SIMBEDS Category.
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Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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