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Winland
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Postby Winland » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:56 pm

vaguely leftish → democratic socialist → anarcho-communist → vaguely leftisher → just vague
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Empire of Vlissingen
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:22 pm

Conkerials wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I'm still a Libertarian.

Wait.... A libertarian who is a soft authoritarian on his political test? Hm...

On that political test i answered on qeustions like all authority must be qeustioned i said no some qeustions had a double meaning.

On all other test it's either center right or Libertarian.
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Economic Left/Right: 4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.31

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:18 pm

Nevanmaa wrote:At first, I was just an average center-right liberal conservative who liked America.

After spending a few years on NSG, I've become significantly more right-wing and my love for America has kept growing. I've also become slightly more socially conservative, but I'd attribute that to /pol/ rather than NSG.

I have designed a personal theory during my years here: when you're a moderate and spend time in a place filled with extremists, you tend to go in the exact opposite direction. In this case, NSG's pants-on-head far-leftiness turned moderate center-right Hippo into GOD BLESS AMERICA RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT-Hippo.

Fortunately, I've spent time on some far-right discussion boards as well, which had also had the same effect on me. This means that I will never become a "KILL THE NIGGERS AND GAS THE JEWS, HAPPENING TRAIN SAYS CHOO CHOO CHOO"-type authoritarian neonazi.

Hippo is surprisingly right.

Why I entered Orkut debates as a 14-year-old, I was a slightly anti-capitalist social democrat. When it died at my late 17th year, I was a staunchly anti-capitalist anarcho-communist (I don't really know if I can be called anarcho, but well I'm close to the bottom in the far of the left).

At the same time, though, my once Dawkinian New Atheism became just a relatively liberal and tolerant non-skeptical agnostic atheist secular humanism, due to my convivence with more radical atheists that proved to be about as shitty as right-wing religious people.

Sexist, anti-gay anti-emos and other folk with antiquated views of masculinity also turned me extremely pro-LGBT and pro-sexual liberation due to it happening in the same time of the self-discovery of my sexual orientation... I was common sense before it, but truly curious to play with it without being judged (because religion also prohibited pornography, masturbation, anal/oral, birth control and pre-marriage sexuality what I always thought truly ridiculous) and didn't felt any kind of male-male egalitarian affectivity or sexuality would logically decrease one's masculinity (even though I wanted to conform because, as I once thought, adults tend to be right and have reasons for their worldviews). But seeing how the macho homophobic crowd is extremely violent, lewd, ridiculous and hateful, it didn't need a year to have me being proud of effeminated/gender variant dudes and trans* people.
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Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
Compass: economic left -9.85, social libertarian -8.97
Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

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Lankar Islands
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Postby Lankar Islands » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:33 am

Centrist to some kind of Social Democrat... Or An-com.

I really don't know.
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Republic of Trollandia
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Postby Republic of Trollandia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:33 am

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The Holy Therns
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:37 am

I started out as a democratic socialist.

I ended up somewhat more of a libertarian socialist.
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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:31 am

Ikigain wrote:Yup, but they had nothing to do with nationstates. I was a hardcore anarchist when I first got on here, and I really didn't support any separatism but I was aware of race differences. And I still believed in very libertarian social views. Now I'm way more racialist and I have fascist elements of my ideology.

I always knew it, when you are right-libertarian (let's be intelligent and frank, a political position that de facto makes you a psychopath indifferent to Mother Nature and >9/10 of humanity) you don't need much to walk to right-authoritarian, nuff said.
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Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
Compass: economic left -9.85, social libertarian -8.97
Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

Born 12/94. Weird in all senses starting at 07/2000. NSG's resident euro-carioca bara-fudanshi useless lazy perv. Agnostic atheist (not anti-religious), bi-affective homosexual/demiheterosexual (and bi-curious i.e. chronologically 95% bisexual-ish but 5% true bi), slightly more masculine of both tad neutral and tad ambiguous gender (human-/oneself-identified genderqueer; he, xe or ou, your preference), naturist, "worker" class, mildly hipster/japanophile, etc.

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Jukraina
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Postby Jukraina » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:48 am

Still same
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Defero Populus
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Postby Defero Populus » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:55 am

I moved from centrist to economically far left and socially centrist then to Economically far left and socially far right.
My political philosophy
Progressivism 37.5
Socialism 56.25
Tenderness 75

Your test scores indicate that you are a tender-minded conservative; this is the political profile one might associate with a protective parent. It appears that you are trusting of religion, and have a compassionate and sympathetic attitude towards humanity in general.

Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a neoconservative.

To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a uncompromising radical egalitarian with an established worldview.

http://slackhalla.org/~demise/test/socialattitude.php

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Rutannia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rutannia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:56 am

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My opinion hasn't changed at all. However your NIGHT WILL LAST FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

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Great Kleomentia
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:05 am

Shifted even more right. But i was always monarchistic-authorative.
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Postby Norstal » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:40 am

Used to be right in civil rights. Then leftist, then moderate-left. Left in economic freedom. And has always been right in political freedom.

But it isn't just because of NSG. It's because of news articles and such.
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Cill Airne
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Postby Cill Airne » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:52 am

I've gradually gone more and more right wing until I got to the point that I am now.
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Slafstopia
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Postby Slafstopia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:07 pm

Norstal wrote:Used to be right in civil rights. Then leftist, then moderate-left. Left in economic freedom. And has always been right in political freedom.

But it isn't just because of NSG. It's because of news articles and such.


Wait, so when you say right in political freedom, do you mean totalitarian?

Lankar Islands wrote:Centrist to some kind of Social Democrat... Or An-com.

I really don't know.


The difference between social democracy and anarcho-communism is the difference between mascarpone and stilton.
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Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.50
Foreign Policy Non-Interventionist/Neo-Conservative: -9.48
Cultural Liberal/Conservative: -8.09
Socio-economic Quiz: Anarchism 100%, Marxism 92%, Democratic Socialism 92%
Economic Quiz: Ghandian 100%
Alignment: Chaotic Evil


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Norstal
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Postby Norstal » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:50 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Norstal wrote:Used to be right in civil rights. Then leftist, then moderate-left. Left in economic freedom. And has always been right in political freedom.

But it isn't just because of NSG. It's because of news articles and such.


Wait, so when you say right in political freedom, do you mean totalitarian?

What the hell is left in the political spectrum then? Anarchy? Absurd.

No. I just think some people should be restricted from taking political offices or positions. Like idiots.
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Minarchist States
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Postby Minarchist States » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:18 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
Undeniable proof that NSG makes you a social democrat.

Been here for almost 7 months and almost 7k posts, not a social democrat...
It did move me quite a bit to the left though. I'm not sure if that's entirely the doing of NSG though it certainly contributed.


Compare your compass to the Justice Party's. Although it doesn't make you one, it' awfully close...
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Serrland
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Postby Serrland » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:04 pm

Haven't really changed that much.

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:30 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:If by "rubbish" you mean "meeting the bare minimum of internal consistency with its stated aspirations," then I agree. American social liberalism is "rubbish".

But I have a feeling you don't mean that, and in fact do not know what you're talking about.

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When I call American Liberalism rubbish, its not because of ideological differences (even though I disagree with their ideals most of the time) its because Americans twisted the word Liberal into a term to describe a center-left ideology.

No, you don't understand. They didn't twist anything. The understanding of liberal philosophers evolved due to empirical inquiry and deeper philosophical reflection. Theirs is the only internally consistent application of classic liberal philosophy. It is the only one congruent to the facts of reality as well as to its own stated values.

A liberal who rejects social liberalism is at best a complete anachronism, and more likely devoutly anti-liberal, aka, a "libertarian."
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:14 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Been here for almost 7 months and almost 7k posts, not a social democrat...
It did move me quite a bit to the left though. I'm not sure if that's entirely the doing of NSG though it certainly contributed.


Compare your compass to the Justice Party's. Although it doesn't make you one, it' awfully close...

I take that website's party charts with a grain of salt. There is a huge discrepancy between the coordinates assigned to politicians and the coordinates that test takers get. For example, Obama's compass according to the website owner is about (+6,+6), which is almost exactly the same as that of NSG fascist Prussia-Steinbach for example.
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Postby Keronians » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:14 pm

My political compass reads as follows:

Right: 4.13 Libertarian: 3.55

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Foreign policy: -3.96

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Culture: -5.63

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Postby Neoconstantius » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:19 pm

NS has really not affected my politics all that much. In fact, I think it's only caused me to become further entrenched in my political beliefs.

But, over the years, I've gone from staunch social conservative to moderate social/economic conservative to neo-conservative to social liberal/economic conservative to libertarian/non-interventionist. I've had quite the journey across the political "right".
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Postby Slafstopia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:34 pm

Norstal wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
Wait, so when you say right in political freedom, do you mean totalitarian?

What the hell is left in the political spectrum then? Anarchy? Absurd.

No. I just think some people should be restricted from taking political offices or positions. Like idiots.


I was thinking more 'direct democracy' at the farthest left, and totalitarianism at the farthest right.
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.50
Foreign Policy Non-Interventionist/Neo-Conservative: -9.48
Cultural Liberal/Conservative: -8.09
Socio-economic Quiz: Anarchism 100%, Marxism 92%, Democratic Socialism 92%
Economic Quiz: Ghandian 100%
Alignment: Chaotic Evil


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The Truth and Light
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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:34 pm

I started out in the right-wing and gradually moved to the left. It had nothing to do with NS though, though NSers had to bear with me as I was figuring things out.

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Seitonjin
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Postby Seitonjin » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:36 pm

Okay. Today, I formally become a radical centrist.

Jubus. I hope this is a phase.
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Postby Bojikami » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:11 pm

Surfistan wrote:I went from centre left to left wing, and became more democratic, and started questioning authority more. And started to really dislike fetishistic militairism.

Yay. Fellow leftist. *high five*
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