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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:11 pm

id like to switch my vote on NPWWA from nay to aye
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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:11 pm

National Empire wrote:NPSEA: Nay
COPA: Aye
LTPA:Aye
APF:Aye
APA:Nay
NPWWA:Aye
NFSA:Abstain


LPA Vote???

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:12 pm

Senate President pro Tempore wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:NPSEA: Nay
COPA: Nay
LTPA: Nay
APF: Nay
APA: Nay
NPWWA: Yea
NFSA: Yea


LPA Vote?????

Sorry, copied format from voter prior to me.

LPA: Yea
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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:12 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Senate President pro Tempore wrote:
LPA Vote?????

Sorry, copied format from voter prior to me.

LPA: Yea


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Postby Beta Test » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:13 pm

I would like to change my abstention on NPWWA to an AYE
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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:13 pm

Current Vote Count on the Environment & Energy Category


Began: 1:47 PM Sat Aug 10, 2013; EDT (UTC -4 | New York City)
Ends: 1:47 PM Mon Aug 12, 2013; EDT (UTC -4 | New York City)
World Clock


NPSEA
21 for
7 against
2 abstain

COPA
21 for
6 against
3 abstain

LTPA
21 for
8 against
1 abstain

APF
21 for
9 against
0 abstain

APA
18 for
10 against
1 abstain

NPWWA
15 for
7 against
8 abstain

LPA: 1 unclear vote by National Empire
20 for
8 against
3 abstain

NFSA
20 for
6 against
4 abstain
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:57 pm

NPSEA: AYE

COPA: AYE

LTPA: ABSTAIN

APF: AYE

APA: AYE

NPWWA: ABSTAIN

LPA: ABSTAIN

NFSA: ABSTAIN
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Postby National Empire » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:00 pm

I vote aye on LPA. Somehow I missed that one.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:01 pm

I would like to change my vote on NPSEA to NAY, and for my votes on NFSA and NPWWA to AYE!
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Postby Free South Califas » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:09 pm

Senate President pro Tempore wrote:You are correct, I forgot to change the days. I will change them.

However, you are wrong about the times. Look at this post:

viewtopic.php?p=16023757#p16023757

We are not regulating UTC. Last vote counter, we did PDT. As long as we state the time zone, it should be all right.

And UTC isn't the right time zone anyway, that would be CET. Please stick to your guns on this, or at least use CET so it makes any sense. I'm pretty sure not all of us are from London either. (ETA: I guess 'UTC - x' is fair enough but this OOC wankery won't be enforced on me, at least.)

New Bierstaat wrote:Edit after seeing your post: I'm American, so I know what EDT is, but those joining us from other parts of the world may not, so it might be nice to put "EDT (UTC-4) instead of just EDT (New York).
Another round of this, and in the Chamber no less? He gave a link to a world clock. If you want to do it differently, you should help count the vote.

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Beta Test wrote:I would like to change my vote on the Animal Protection Act from an Aye to an Abstain.


One further point on that act is, it legalizes hunting yet makes accidentally killing and animal a crime. Where is the common sense and the consistency. :blink:

One more. One more. Just one more. Just a little bit. Just a tiny bit more. I'll just have this one comment in the Chamber during voting and then I'll go. Oh, and one more thing...how about you take your comments to the Lobby? By the way, you're complicit in the text of the APA, as the entire Senate has been explicitly asked for suggestions for the last 2 days after having 2 additional days to debate it.
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Postby Bleckonia » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:18 pm

I change my vote on ApA from a nay to an aye because it allows animal testing.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:32 am

Free South Califas wrote:
Senate President pro Tempore wrote:You are correct, I forgot to change the days. I will change them.

However, you are wrong about the times. Look at this post:

viewtopic.php?p=16023757#p16023757

We are not regulating UTC. Last vote counter, we did PDT. As long as we state the time zone, it should be all right.

And UTC isn't the right time zone anyway, that would be CET. Please stick to your guns on this, or at least use CET so it makes any sense. I'm pretty sure not all of us are from London either. (ETA: I guess 'UTC - x' is fair enough but this OOC wankery won't be enforced on me, at least.)

New Bierstaat wrote:Edit after seeing your post: I'm American, so I know what EDT is, but those joining us from other parts of the world may not, so it might be nice to put "EDT (UTC-4) instead of just EDT (New York).
Another round of this, and in the Chamber no less? He gave a link to a world clock. If you want to do it differently, you should help count the vote.

The Nihilistic view wrote:
One further point on that act is, it legalizes hunting yet makes accidentally killing and animal a crime. Where is the common sense and the consistency. :blink:

One more. One more. Just one more. Just a little bit. Just a tiny bit more. I'll just have this one comment in the Chamber during voting and then I'll go. Oh, and one more thing...how about you take your comments to the Lobby? By the way, you're complicit in the text of the APA, as the entire Senate has been explicitly asked for suggestions for the last 2 days after having 2 additional days to debate it.


I'm sorry FSC, of course how selfish of me I should have put my life on hold for a week so I could have been totally through with the bills. I shall in future endevour to stay glued to my keyboard 24/7 to make sure I can do an in depth critique of every word of every bill voted on in future.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:10 am

NPSEA: Nay

COPA: Yea

LTPA: Yea

APF: Abstain

APA: Yea

NPWWA: Yea

LPA: Yea

NFSA: Yea
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Postby Ainin » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:30 am

Lamaredia wrote:I would like to change my vote on NPSEA to NAY, and for my votes on NFSA and NPWWA to AYE!

...initially from?
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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:42 am

Ainin wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:I would like to change my vote on NPSEA to NAY, and for my votes on NFSA and NPWWA to AYE!

...initially from?


Aye on NPSEA, and Abstain on NFSA and NPWWA were the original ones.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:57 am

This bill has enough sponsors to be added to the queue.

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The Senate of Aurentina,

REALIZING that Aurentina's non-compact shape renders many areas close together but difficult to traverse between due to bodies of water being in the way,

HAVING CALCULATED that ferry transit between some of these cities would be fairly cheap and help in the transit of people, vehicles, and goods between said cities,

SEEING the benefit of government revenue from such a transit establishment,

ENACTS the following:

1. The Aurentine Ferry Commission (AFC) is hereby established. 
2. Authority is given to the Ministry of Transportation to oversee the AFC.
3. The Ministry of Transportation will have authority to assign parts of numbered routes to ferry routes to assist with continuity of such routes when this is prudent and necessary. 
4. The AFC will determine all ferry routes, times and frequency of service, and fares. 
5. Fares must be reasonable and must cost no more than £0.30 per kilometer traveled.
6. The AFC's authority to determine fares will be subject to the Ministry of Transportation and the courts.

7. Private corporations will be allowed to operate ferry routes in Aurentine waters subject to all relevant legislation. 
8. Nothing in this bill will be interpreted to allow the abolishment of the private ferry industry.
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Postby Phocidaea » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:40 am

Wow, there's still a little time left for a vote! Damned Alaskan time, screwing me up.
NPSEA: Aye
COPA: Abstain - why cork oaks, of all things?
LTPA: Aye
APF: Aye (but it sounds like a twelve-year-old came up with the higher ranks)
APA: Nay. It only excuses "members of the insect kingdom" which is taxonomically flawed both in practical application and from a pedantic viewpoint. Insecta is not a kingdom, and it only contains insects, and thus any other invertebrate is still legally an "animal" under this act. Really, Mr. Califas, I do recommend you return to a secondary school and take a course on biology. I apologize for shouting in the chamber, but I would like to request that any senator reading this before the deadline reconsider their vote in light of it, lest we turn into a Jainist theocracy by accident.
NPWWA: Aye
LPA: Nay. You do realize this renders illegal dropping trash on the floor of your own home, even if you are going to throw it out later?
NFSA: Aye
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:44 am

Phocidaea wrote:Wow, there's still a little time left for a vote! Damned Alaskan time, screwing me up.
NPSEA: Aye
COPA: Abstain - why cork oaks, of all things?
LTPA: Aye
APF: Aye (but it sounds like a twelve-year-old came up with the higher ranks)
APA: Nay. It only excuses "members of the insect kingdom" which is taxonomically flawed both in practical application and from a pedantic viewpoint. Insecta is not a kingdom, and it only contains insects, and thus any other invertebrate is still legally an "animal" under this act. Really, Mr. Califas, I do recommend you return to a secondary school and take a course on biology. I apologize for shouting in the chamber, but I would like to request that any senator reading this before the deadline reconsider their vote in light of it, lest we turn into a Jainist theocracy by accident.
NPWWA: Aye
LPA: Nay. You do realize this renders illegal dropping trash on the floor of your own home, even if you are going to throw it out later?
NFSA: Aye


You do realize this renders illegal dropping trash on the floor of your own home, even if you are going to throw it out later?


That is a good point, how am I supposed to fit a washing machine in my waste bin before I go to the dump?
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Postby New Bierstaat » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:52 am

In light of Senator Phocidaea's comment and as a scientist myself, I must also change my vote on the APA from YES to NO. I am not opposed to the overall purpose of the bill, but it includes text that is not scientifically correct.
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:26 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:Wow, there's still a little time left for a vote! Damned Alaskan time, screwing me up.
NPSEA: Aye
COPA: Abstain - why cork oaks, of all things?
LTPA: Aye
APF: Aye (but it sounds like a twelve-year-old came up with the higher ranks)
APA: Nay. It only excuses "members of the insect kingdom" which is taxonomically flawed both in practical application and from a pedantic viewpoint. Insecta is not a kingdom, and it only contains insects, and thus any other invertebrate is still legally an "animal" under this act. Really, Mr. Califas, I do recommend you return to a secondary school and take a course on biology. I apologize for shouting in the chamber, but I would like to request that any senator reading this before the deadline reconsider their vote in light of it, lest we turn into a Jainist theocracy by accident.
NPWWA: Aye
LPA: Nay. You do realize this renders illegal dropping trash on the floor of your own home, even if you are going to throw it out later?
NFSA: Aye


You do realize this renders illegal dropping trash on the floor of your own home, even if you are going to throw it out later?


That is a good point, how am I supposed to fit a washing machine in my waste bin before I go to the dump?


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Postby HumanSanity » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:45 am

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Senator Callaghan votes AYE on the Cork Oak Preservation Act.

Senator Callaghan votes AYE on the Loggerhead Turtle Protection Act.

Senator Callaghan votes AYE on the establishment of the Animal Protection Force.

Senator Callaghan votes NAY on the Animal Protection Act.

Senator Callaghan votes AYE on the National Preservation of Wilderness and Wildlife Act.

Senator Callaghan votes AYE on the Littering Prevention Act.

Senator Callaghan votes NAY on the National Forestry Services Act.
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Postby Deutsche Demokratische Republik » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:49 am

NPSEA: Aye.
COPA: Aye
LTPA: Aye
APF: Aye
APA: Aye.
NPWWA: Nay.
LPA: Aye.
NFSA: Aye.
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Postby Free South Califas » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:51 am

If I might trouble this august chamber, could Mr. President pro tempore do the honor of adding this to the Senate Procedures queue, and putting the first amendment before it when it's posted if it hasn't been already?

Second Amendment to SIMBEDS
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:08 pm

NPSEA: Aye
COPA: Aye
LTPA: Aye
APF: Aye
APA: Aye
NPWWA: Nay
LPA: Aye
NFSA: Aye
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Postby Angleter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:34 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:I, Macedonian Grand Empire, give Angleter permission to vote on my behalf for 3 weeks.


And thus:

NPSEA - Abstain
COPA - Abstain
LTPA - Abstain
APF - Nay
APA - Nay
NPWWA - Nay
LPA - Abstain
NFSA - Aye
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