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by Northern Dominus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:15 am
by Licentiapacisterra » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:19 am
by Vitaphone Racing » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:23 am
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Northern Dominus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:30 am
Too bad HRT didn't have enough Euros to throw around.Vitaphone Racing wrote:2013 for Force India has got to be their best year yet by a long way. Proof that if you throw enough money at a problem, you can solve it eventually.
by Vitaphone Racing » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:33 am
Now if only Koenigsegg and Pagani would get involved...
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Northern Dominus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:36 am
Koenigsegg and Pagani have a lot of experience in shaping carbon fiber and working with engines, so there's that. Maybe they could buy out Marussia/Virgin and Caterham and make something of it?Vitaphone Racing wrote:Northern Dominus wrote:Too bad HRT didn't have enough Euros to throw around.
I'm just surprised US F1 didn't get up in the end, they would have been far better to have than HRT. I'm wondering who out of Marussia and Caterham will be the first to become a regular points scorer since neither of them look like pulling out.Now if only Koenigsegg and Pagani would get involved...
From no motorsport experience at all? I'd rather see BMW or Alfa Romeo come back, a company with experience and a lot of money.
by Vitaphone Racing » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:44 am
Northern Dominus wrote:Koenigsegg and Pagani have a lot of experience in shaping carbon fiber and working with engines, so there's that. Maybe they could buy out Marussia/Virgin and Caterham and make something of it?Vitaphone Racing wrote:I'm just surprised US F1 didn't get up in the end, they would have been far better to have than HRT. I'm wondering who out of Marussia and Caterham will be the first to become a regular points scorer since neither of them look like pulling out.
From no motorsport experience at all? I'd rather see BMW or Alfa Romeo come back, a company with experience and a lot of money.
Alfa's not coming back because there is no way FIAT will ever let two of its brands duke it out, and BMW tried that experiment and it failed pretty badly.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by The Whispers » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:52 am
by Havl » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:17 am
Northern Dominus wrote:Alfa's not coming back because there is no way FIAT will ever let two of its brands duke it out, and BMW tried that experiment and it failed pretty badly.
by Northern Dominus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:18 am
I meant BMW tried operating in F1 and they didn't have a lot of success to show for it despite the amount of money they threw at the program.
by Havl » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:21 am
by Northern Dominus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:23 am
Maybe... hmmm, Scuderia Dino, has a nice ring to it. Especially since Minardi is never coming backHavl wrote:Northern Dominus wrote:I meant BMW tried operating in F1 and they didn't have a lot of success to show for it despite the amount of money they threw at the program.
Money isn't everything in F1, but you can't win without it. Ferrari advocated for 3- and 4-car teams a few years ago. I could imagine a junior team, but probably not Alfa or Maserati. Maybe "Dino" team?
by Havl » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:24 pm
by Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:30 pm
Formula 1 boss Ecclestone indicted on bribery charge
Bernie Ecclestone - file pic Mr Ecclestone's motor racing business is a lucrative global venture
German prosecutors have indicted Formula 1 motor racing boss Bernie Ecclestone on a bribery charge.
The charge relates to a $44m (£29m) payment to German banker Gerhard Gribkowsky of Bayern Landesbank, linked to the sale of a stake in F1.
Mr Ecclestone denies bribing Gribkowsky, and says the money was intended to stop the banker from exposing him to a UK tax inquiry.
Mr Gribkowsky was sentenced to eight-and-a-half years in jail in Munich.
Speaking to the Financial Times on Wednesday, Mr Ecclestone said: "I have just spoken to my lawyers and they have received an indictment. It's being translated into English."
Asked how he responded to the indictment, he said: "We are defending it properly. It will be an interesting case. It's a pity it's happened."
'Silly things'
The charges are related to the 2006 sale of a 47% stake in Formula 1 by Bayern Landesbank, which had acquired it from the bankrupt Kirch media group.
At his trial last year, Gribkowsky admitted corruptly receiving $41.4m (£26.6m) in bank commissions and a large payment via the Ecclestone family's Bambino Trust.
He maintained he had been paid to undervalue the shares.
But Mr Ecclestone says he paid Gribkowsky to keep him quiet, believing the banker was planning to give false information to the UK authorities about his tax affairs.
Mr Ecclestone said at the time that proving the allegation was false "would have been very expensive for me".
"The tax risk would have exceeded £2bn. I paid him to keep calm and not to do silly things," he said.
Mr Ecclestone has until mid-August to respond to the charges. The court will then decide whether to take the case to trial - it could be heard by mid-September.
He faces a possible jail term if found guilty, something he has previously said would force him to stand down as head of F1.
His lawyer told the Financial Times the indictment was largely based on statements from Gribkowsky, and that Mr Ecclestone intended to dispute these.
by Licentiapacisterra » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:41 pm
by Havl » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:10 pm
Licentiapacisterra wrote:Just watched an absolutely fantastic documentary about the rivalry between James Hunt and Niki Lauda on the BBC. I'm not old enough to have been around when that was going on, but it was fascinating to watch and find out the story behind it. It is really worth checking out for any of you that have access to iPlayer (I'm not sure how that works outside the UK).
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:15 pm
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Northern Dominus wrote:Too bad HRT didn't have enough Euros to throw around.
I'm just surprised US F1 didn't get up in the end, they would have been far better to have than HRT. I'm wondering who out of Marussia and Caterham will be the first to become a regular points scorer since neither of them look like pulling out.Now if only Koenigsegg and Pagani would get involved...
From no motorsport experience at all? I'd rather see BMW or Alfa Romeo come back, a company with experience and a lot of money.
by Licentiapacisterra » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:20 pm
Havl wrote:Licentiapacisterra wrote:Just watched an absolutely fantastic documentary about the rivalry between James Hunt and Niki Lauda on the BBC. I'm not old enough to have been around when that was going on, but it was fascinating to watch and find out the story behind it. It is really worth checking out for any of you that have access to iPlayer (I'm not sure how that works outside the UK).
Do you remember what it was called? That sounds fascinating.
by Licentiapacisterra » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:30 pm
Havl wrote:Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Hunt vs Lauda: F1's Greatest Racing Rivals. It's on iPlayer, and it looks like it's also on Youtube, in parts.
Thanks. I'll check it out.
I'm looking forward to the new Hunt/Lauda film, Rush, even though it's probably going to be another in the long line of disappointing movies about racing.
by Havl » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:38 pm
Licentiapacisterra wrote:
No worries, it's definitely worth it in my opinion.
I always look forward to sports films, so I'll be watching that when I get the chance. I hope it doesn't turn out like that, it'd be nice to see a good film about racing.
by Licentiapacisterra » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:26 pm
Havl wrote:Licentiapacisterra wrote:
No worries, it's definitely worth it in my opinion.
I always look forward to sports films, so I'll be watching that when I get the chance. I hope it doesn't turn out like that, it'd be nice to see a good film about racing.
Ron Howard seems to have a genuine appreciation of F1's glamor days in the 1970s. I read that they were able to use actual vintage McLarens and Ferraris for the racing scenes.
by Evil Lord Sauron » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:32 pm
Havl wrote:Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Hunt vs Lauda: F1's Greatest Racing Rivals. It's on iPlayer, and it looks like it's also on Youtube, in parts.
I'm looking forward to the new Hunt/Lauda film, Rush, even though it's probably going to be another in the long line of disappointing movies about racing.
by Havl » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:47 pm
Evil Lord Sauron wrote:
Don't know, Ron Howard was on Top Gear last sunday giving an interview and tbf it looked really good. And Jeremy Clarkson who you have to take with a pinch of salt sadly did say was a superb film, and highly recommended. He was right about the Senna film and does have a love for F1 so I think it will actually be very good. Apparently they've taken a completely different angle on the event, and it isn't so much based around the racing but more the clash of personalities, but even the racing scenes looked pretty good.
Evil Lord Sauron wrote:Anyway BBC's Gary Anderson has tipped Bianchi to replace Massa... not sure I've been impressed enough by Bianchi to really take that seat but I can't see Massa having another season at Ferrari.
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