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Johz
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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:52 am

PrussianEmpire wrote:What's to keep from the now temporally demoted Lts. from unofficial running the organization? I mean, the current people in charge are still buddies w/ the people demoted which means they'll still listen to them. I'm sure if Sr. Merryman Uni tells Sov to do something, he'll do it.

Nothing can stop a friend doing as another friend asks, but all of our members are fully aware that they should feel no particular compunction when asked to do something by an ex-Lieutenant or Chief. In my presence at least - and I am fairly sure the other Lts have had similar experiences - the punishments have been upheld.
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Postby PrussianEmpire » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:06 am

Johz wrote:
PrussianEmpire wrote:What's to keep from the now temporally demoted Lts. from unofficial running the organization? I mean, the current people in charge are still buddies w/ the people demoted which means they'll still listen to them. I'm sure if Sr. Merryman Uni tells Sov to do something, he'll do it.

Nothing can stop a friend doing as another friend asks, but all of our members are fully aware that they should feel no particular compunction when asked to do something by an ex-Lieutenant or Chief. In my presence at least - and I am fairly sure the other Lts have had similar experiences - the punishments have been upheld.


Well thats good.
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Postby Blue Wolf II » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:37 pm

So I can only assume, since it's been a week, that those four people who had one week demotions have now had their rank completely restored. This sort of "punishment" for the crime of stealing intel from North Pacific Army is a complete and total insult to The North Pacific as a whole. Clearly the UDL does not take this matter seriously.

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Postby Severisen » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:35 pm

Unibot III on 19 March 2013 wrote:In regards to The North Pacific's Investigation,
-SNIP-
Therefore, Lieutenant Ravania is reprimanded with a temporary two week demotion to the level of Senior Merryman,
-SNIP-


ORLY?

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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:47 pm

Severisen wrote:
Unibot III on 19 March 2013 wrote:In regards to The North Pacific's Investigation,
-SNIP-
Therefore, Lieutenant Ravania is reprimanded with a temporary two week demotion to the level of Senior Merryman,
-SNIP-


ORLY?

Today at the UDL forum:
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He must have been overlooked when we were masking people. Everyone else got masked as merrymen for the week. I'll remask him now; thanks. We don't really use our forums a lot, so I just didn't notice.
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Wendy Darling
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Postby Wendy Darling » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:55 pm

The masking on the forum really doesn't mean much like..ever. Considering anyone with eyes on our forum knows we use it for..uh..nothing. Perhaps recordkeeping?

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Postby PrussianEmpire » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Wendy Darling wrote:The masking on the forum really doesn't mean much like..ever. Considering anyone with eyes on our forum knows we use it for..uh..nothing. Perhaps recordkeeping?

-Earth



Tis is true. There are maybe 3 things on there that are.any importance.
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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:09 pm

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A Letter from the Capitalis de Societate of The United Defenders League,

Hello everyone! Or in true Bazalonian fashion: *stabby stab stab*.

*Bazalonia stabs Unibot
* Cormac has joined #udl
* ChanServ sets mode: +v Cormac
* Bazalonia stabs Cormac
<Cormac> Morning to you too Baz. :P
<Bazalonia> :D
<Bazalonia> Who says I'm hard to understand? :p
* Bazalonia yawns
* Bazalonia stabs Cormac and Frattastan
* Bazalonia waves
<Cormac> lol hai


As I’m sure many of you have heard, there was an incident during last week where one of our Lieutenants reportedly leaked a thread (connected to the invasion of Warhammer 40000) to individuals in The United Defenders League – the disclosure of the thread was rash and disreputable on this officer’s part. During the crisis, punishments, some permanent and some temporary were dished out to members of The United Defenders League who read or were aware of the leaked thread.

In the event that members could not be proven to have been unaware of the threads (they had no alibi), members were suspended of duties anyway to ensure that all guilty parties received their due.

In many ways, the people punished the most with these suspensions were the people who had to take on the duties of the missing lieutenants and superior officers. Halving our staff for a week (and then some of the remaining officers attending Spring Break on top of that), left the organization, as a whole, majorly understaffed. So I’d just like to thank all of the senior staff who led The United Defenders League during the past week. Also: thank you, Lieutenant Earth, for serving as the “UDL Standing Leadership”; I’m so sorry that Lieutenant Earth got saddled with my job for a week because I know it’s one of the toughest positions in NationStates and it’s even harder during crises – I thought she did a marvellous job of organizing the inquiry of the event and otherwise leading the organization during this week.

Nonetheless, with that disarray and staff shortage, The United Defenders League sadly wasn’t able to free Warhammer 40000 from The Black Hawks – that was probably the greatest punishment that could have been levied against a defender and I think myself and the other Lieutenants were affected by that greatly. However, we gave it a good shot – not many organizations can organize and run four solid operations back-to-back every twelve hours with twenty+ soldiers.

<Unibot> TNI: They fought the clock and the clock won.
<Galiantus> lol


Our big mission of the past few weeks was a liberation of The Islamic Republic of Iran against the National Socialist League – an overwhelming 26-20 victory. You can read more about that mission and an official warning in regards to escalation in a recent article by The Sherwood Post. Also, on March 17, The United Defenders League lead defenderdom into battle against The Black Riders during a minor update and defeated The Black Riders soundly – defenderdom was responsible for protecting more than 70% of The Black Riders’ targeted victims. Additionally, The Greenwood Band also liberated Avalon from its Kantrian (Kantrian not Kantian, nowhere neeear Kantian -- goddahm spellcheck!) overlords.

Excellent job guys. Below is the military ribbon for The Islamic Republic of Iran and Avalon liberations and the medal awarded for the merit shown during those remarkable defences on March 17.

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The Greenwood Band also contributed to the liberations of Middle Earth, Gensokyo, Samsung, Death Star and The Armed Coalition, the latter against The West Pacific Armed Forces. There were also some liberations, defences and just general skirmishes through the week that we didn’t record. The battlefield has been steadily getting more active as we approach April. During the past week, our Defender “Assistant”, FriarTuck has been offline, so Lieutenant Johz (bless him), went out of his way to code us a substitute assistant. I would just like to express my glee that said “bot” is K-9’s older brother, K-8 *barks*. Image

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<FriarTuck> Earth: Okay, will remind at 22:31Z
<Carta> .in 1 seconds unibot breath
<FriarTuck> Carta: Okay, will remind in 1 secs
<FriarTuck> Carta: unibot breath
<Carta> he will die
<Carta> unless we remind him to breath, eat, drink, sleep, etc.
<Carta> :(


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<Unibot> Erm
<Unibot> Four
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<NewSapienta> CLOCK
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<Tim-Opolis> LOL
<NewSapienta> I MEAN CLOCK


In administrative news, The United Defenders League’s officers have voted in favor of ascending St. Georgie (Mad Jack) to the Hall of Honour – although a current member, he was (mistakenly) not moved to the Hall of Honour during his past departure from The United Defenders League.

Furthermore, The Greenwood Band is very happy to announce that The East Pacific has recently ratified “An Act of Friendship, Development and Mutual Respect for Sovereignty between The East Pacific and The United Defenders League”. The treaty is a strong legislative icebreaker for a bright future for our diplomatic relationship; the treaty outlines The United Defenders League’s development program with The East Pacific, in addition to The East Pacific recognizing that they "sympathize with The United Defenders League's noble cause of securing these freedoms abroad across NationStates" and The United Defenders League praising The East Pacific's stability, reasonableness and maturity.

Hileville’s statement on the Treaty goes into more depth on this subject. We’re currently in the early stages of getting the development program set up, but in a future update I’ll discuss what’s going on with that program as we move forward.

As for new members; during the past few weeks we’ve welcomed Doughertania, Reddogkeno101, Greymlan, Kromar, Swith Witherward, Owl Cities, Nazi Flower Power, Thafoo, Schwabenreich, Bokeryville and our most recent, but definitely not least, Charax. I’ve seen most of this crew already actively on the field and enjoying their time – that’s absolutely wonderful to see! Moreover, Congratulations to Charax and United Gordonopia on passing their Defender Exams and meeting the requirements of their new appointment. It’s lovely to see such dedication from our newer members.

We also had the pleasure of welcoming Cormac Stark and Cromarty back to The United Defenders League – Cormac was a former Lieutenant and the first member to receive our coveted “Newcomer of the Month” award; Cromarty was also a former Lieutenant and is currently the Pharaoh of Osiris.

<Mahaj> You are now higher ranked than Uni
<Mahaj> I recommend you boss him around a lot
<Mahaj> you can still do it even when he's chief of the band, but it’s more fun now :P
<Gordonopia> Lol, I'll do my best :P


As for some final notes. I continually get asked “What’s UDL’s position on The West Pacific”; as you may or may not know, The West Pacific’s government has been couped recently. We are neutral on the coup – no troops have been order to support either side and it is unlikely that troops will be called to support either side. If you would like to read up on The United Defenders League’s policy on feeder coups, feel free to review our Rogue Delegacies and Administrations Policy.

I hope everyone has a Happy April Fools (the –best– day of the year for NationStaters). As for this “Regions will Fall” nonsense – don’t panic! The Greenwood Band is prepared for (almost) anything.

Here’s your Moment of Zen.

<Earth> "4 minutes ago: The Nomadic Peoples of Erotic Leprosy ceased to exist."


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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:20 pm

Saying that you 'liberated' it is just a we bit Generous. :P We pulled out before a change in delegacy occured.

And yes, I'm saying that as much to make myself feel better as anything else.
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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:34 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:Saying that you 'liberated' it is just a we bit Generous. :P We pulled out before a change in delegacy occured.

And yes, I'm saying that as much to make myself feel better as anything else.


If you weren't going to get your butt kicked out, would you have left Avalon so early?
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Cormac Stark
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Postby Cormac Stark » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:37 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:Saying that you 'liberated' it is just a we bit Generous. :P We pulled out before a change in delegacy occured.

And yes, I'm saying that as much to make myself feel better as anything else.

Pulling out post-screwing is usually too late, in my experience. :P

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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:49 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:Saying that you 'liberated' it is just a we bit Generous. :P We pulled out before a change in delegacy occured.

And yes, I'm saying that as much to make myself feel better as anything else.


If you weren't going to get your butt kicked out, would you have left Avalon so early?

Bolded added for emphasis, Unibot. :P
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:57 pm

Unibot III wrote:Nazi Flower Power


Congrats at getting a very notable and wonderful NSGer in your band :)
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Postby Cromarty » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:58 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Nazi Flower Power


Congrats at getting a very notable and wonderful NSGer in your band :)

Seconded. :)
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:12 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Nazi Flower Power


Congrats at getting a very notable and wonderful NSGer in your band :)


He's hilarious. Always loved his NSG stuff. ;)
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Postby Blue Wolf II » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:55 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Severisen wrote:
ORLY?

Today at the UDL forum:
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He must have been overlooked when we were masking people. Everyone else got masked as merrymen for the week. I'll remask him now; thanks. We don't really use our forums a lot, so I just didn't notice.


This is definitive proof of how much the UDL really isn't interested in punishing those who committed crimes against TNP. This insult will not go unanswered.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:59 pm

Unibot III wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Congrats at getting a very notable and wonderful NSGer in your band :)


He's hilarious. Always loved his NSG stuff. ;)


She.
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Postby Jakker » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:28 pm

I’m so sorry that Lieutenant Earth got saddled with my job for a week because I know it’s one of the toughest positions in NationStates and it’s even harder during crises


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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Blue Wolf II wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
He must have been overlooked when we were masking people. Everyone else got masked as merrymen for the week. I'll remask him now; thanks. We don't really use our forums a lot, so I just didn't notice.


This is definitive proof of how much the UDL really isn't interested in punishing those who committed crimes against TNP. This insult will not go unanswered.


He was de-op'd like all the other officers. We just missed him when we were de-masking people on the forum. We didn't do that intentionally, we're sorry.
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Postby Mahaj » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:38 pm

Blue Wolf II wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
He must have been overlooked when we were masking people. Everyone else got masked as merrymen for the week. I'll remask him now; thanks. We don't really use our forums a lot, so I just didn't notice.


This insult will not go unanswered.

Damn, man. That's a fairly loaded threat over someone forgetting to demask someone.
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Postby South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:05 pm

*is still purged from the Hall of Honour and banned from #UDL without any explanation*
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:15 pm

South Pacific Belschaft wrote:*is still purged from the Hall of Honour and banned from #UDL without any explanation*


We changed the policy on officers keeping Hall of Honour status when they came back -- Cormac was the first person to retain Hall of Honour status. George's and your Hall of Honour status were removed when you returned before -- we've chosen to be consistent with the new policy and voted George into the Hall of Honour; you were overlooked (I wasn't aware you weren't on the Hall of Honour, to be honest). We can have another vote to return you to the Hall of Honour.

You were banned from #udl for being in #udl while not a member. This ban will probably be removed sometime soon when our ban-list gets too big.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:26 pm

Unibot III wrote:
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:*is still purged from the Hall of Honour and banned from #UDL without any explanation*


You were banned from #udl for being in #udl while not a member. This ban will probably be removed sometime soon when our ban-list gets too big.


Happened to me too :P

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Postby Belschaft » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:54 pm

And I'm not even going to bother to address that response in Uni. It's inconsistent with reality. Please, try again later with something that isn't BS.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:15 pm

Belschaft wrote:And I'm not even going to bother to address that response in Uni. It's inconsistent with reality. Please, try again later with something that isn't BS.


Wasn't BS'd according to what I know. We changed our HoH policy... before you wouldn't been HoH, now you can be -- but like Georgie we have to take a vote. >_>
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Org. Join Date: 25-05-2008 | Former Delegate of TRR

Factbook // Collected works // Gameplay Alignment Test //
9 GA Res., 14 SC Res. // Headlines from Unibot // WASC HQ: A Guide

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