by Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:48 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:50 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:50 pm
by Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:54 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:I have no problem with unions. I have a problem when you try to force workers into unions or when you try to prevent them from joining/forming one. Let the laborer decide.
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by Nidaria » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:55 pm
by Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:56 pm
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by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:56 pm
by Silent Majority » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:57 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:00 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:00 pm
Kengburg wrote: Are companies hijacked by unions (Hostess)?
by Sdaeriji » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:03 pm
by Libertarian California » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:04 pm
by Libertarian California » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:04 pm
Sdaeriji wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Unions didn't kill Hostess.
Do you mean to tell me that a company who exclusively produces and sells products in excess of 500 calories per serving in a country facing an obesity epidemic had problems with their business model beyond the fact that they were unionized?
by Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:05 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Agree, without unions you may be working for $ 1- 2.50 per hour
Absolutely. Unions have done good and as long as you can voluntarily join them or choose to not be a member, I'm OK. I do have a problem though when certain states mandate it.
That said, it's also good business to pay your workers better and to treat them better, even without the influence of government or unions. Ford most certainly did. The happier your workers are, the better they will work to make your shit.
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by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:05 pm
Sdaeriji wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Unions didn't kill Hostess.
Do you mean to tell me that a company who exclusively produces and sells products in excess of 500 calories per serving in a country facing an obesity epidemic had problems with their business model beyond the fact that they were unionized?
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:06 pm
Libertarian California wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
Do you mean to tell me that a company who exclusively produces and sells products in excess of 500 calories per serving in a country facing an obesity epidemic had problems with their business model beyond the fact that they were unionized?
It doesn't matter if their food was unhealthy. Nobody was stopping people from buying their products.
by Sdaeriji » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:10 pm
Libertarian California wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
Do you mean to tell me that a company who exclusively produces and sells products in excess of 500 calories per serving in a country facing an obesity epidemic had problems with their business model beyond the fact that they were unionized?
It doesn't matter if their food was unhealthy. Nobody was stopping people from buying their products.
by Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:12 pm
Sdaeriji wrote:Libertarian California wrote:
It doesn't matter if their food was unhealthy. Nobody was stopping people from buying their products.
That's rather the point. Nobody was stopping people from buying their products, except the people who were no longer buying their products. Somehow that is the union's fault.
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:12 pm
Kengburg wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
That's rather the point. Nobody was stopping people from buying their products, except the people who were no longer buying their products. Somehow that is the union's fault.
Actually Hostess went bankrupt because no one was working, not because they were not selling, they could have stayed open.
by Ifreann » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:13 pm
Kengburg wrote:UNION STATES vs RIGHT TO WORK STATES
RTW: 22 STATES vs UNION: 28 STATES
This is a compilement of facts I have gathered, you decide and add your own facts to the pool. The ultimate duel between Unions and RTW states shall be decided PROVEN FACTS ONLY.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:15 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Absolutely. Unions have done good and as long as you can voluntarily join them or choose to not be a member, I'm OK. I do have a problem though when certain states mandate it.
by Kengburg » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:16 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:21 pm
Kengburg wrote:An average Hostess employee made anywhere from 27,000 to 43,000 per year, how is that unfair? And you have to pay union fees even if you do not want to be in a union. That is literally forcing someone to pay an orginization that they do not want to be apart of.
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