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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:40 am

Ashmoria wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:When they're not advertising the decline and fall of America, they're finding someone to blame.


is it chris christie's fault?

i wonder if he is going to have to run as an independent for re-election in '14

I say he might win regardless. Sandy gave him a hell of a chance to make an image for himself as extremely bipartisan and dedicated to New Jersey. People are gonna remember that come 2016, no matter what he does.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:40 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Norsklow wrote:

As fine as anything, good sir :)

HOWEVER... some of us would really appreciate it if a Black President in the BlackWhite House would start delivering on Black issues.

That would get him hit with a giant sledgehammer named "racist" straight to the forehead from the right.

Should we get some issues on the stage? Yeah, but the most he can realistically do is help indirectly IMO.

Then again, he just got 331, so anything is possible.


It is the 2nd term, you know? Forgive me one racially-insensitive remark but:

The Right is All White. So why give a toss in this, the second term?
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:41 am

Camelza wrote:

...though do mind that I hate the "other guy"


i dont think so. the economy is set to rebound big time. that should make everyone happy. only those who didnt vote for obama might continue to think we should have voted for the other guy.
whatever

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Postby Divair » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:42 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Camelza wrote:

...though do mind that I hate the "other guy"


i dont think so. the economy is set to rebound big time. that should make everyone happy. only those who didnt vote for obama might continue to think we should have voted for the other guy.

I wonder. With the amount of progress made yesterday, the economic rebound, and the GOP's failure to stabilize.. could we see the utter collapse of the GOP side in 2016?

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Postby Absurdity » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:42 am

Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.
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Postby The Calldari State » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:42 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 am

Norsklow wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:That would get him hit with a giant sledgehammer named "racist" straight to the forehead from the right.

Should we get some issues on the stage? Yeah, but the most he can realistically do is help indirectly IMO.

Then again, he just got 331, so anything is possible.


It is the 2nd term, you know? Forgive me one racially-insensitive remark but:

The Right is All White. So why give a toss in this, the second term?

...

...who knows anymore, fuck it, maybe he can do something.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Camelza » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 am

Divair wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
i dont think so. the economy is set to rebound big time. that should make everyone happy. only those who didnt vote for obama might continue to think we should have voted for the other guy.

I wonder. With the amount of progress made yesterday, the economic rebound, and the GOP's failure to stabilize.. could we see the utter collapse of the GOP side in 2016?

Hopefully...

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Postby Divair » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 am

The Calldari State wrote:
Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


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I can't wait until all the Romney supporters wake up and start whining. LET THE TEARS FLOW.

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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


On behalf of the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: thank you and now bugger off.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 am

Divair wrote:
The Calldari State wrote:
Delicious tears.

OMNOMNONOM

I can't wait until all the Romney supporters wake up and start whining. LET THE TEARS FLOW.


We need to get working on the distribution of these forms.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.

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Postby Divair » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Divair wrote:I can't wait until all the Romney supporters wake up and start whining. LET THE TEARS FLOW.


We need to get working on the distribution of these forms.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 am

Divair wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
i dont think so. the economy is set to rebound big time. that should make everyone happy. only those who didnt vote for obama might continue to think we should have voted for the other guy.

I wonder. With the amount of progress made yesterday, the economic rebound, and the GOP's failure to stabilize.. could we see the utter collapse of the GOP side in 2016?


I think you are going to see a moderate GOP candidate try their damndest to fuck over the right wing in 2016.
If he has balls he'll straight up blame them for the state america is in, and blame them for losing the 2008/2012 elections.
If the party lurches to the left and back to the centre, it may survive.
If the moderate GOP's lose 2016 too, i think that'll be the end of it. We'll see them tack onto the democrats to create a super party, which will inevitably split into two down the middle.

50-50 Dem/Rep changes to
50-30 Dem/Mod rep - 20 Right wing
To 40 Dem / 40 Mod Rep - 20 right wing
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Postby Divair » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:45 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Divair wrote:I wonder. With the amount of progress made yesterday, the economic rebound, and the GOP's failure to stabilize.. could we see the utter collapse of the GOP side in 2016?


I think you are going to see a moderate GOP candidate try their damndest to fuck over the right wing in 2016.
If he has balls he'll straight up blame them for the state america is in, and blame them for losing the 2008/2012 elections.
If the party lurches to the left and back to the centre, it may survive.
If the moderate GOP's lose 2016 too, i think that'll be the end of it. We'll see them tack onto the democrats to create a super party, which will inevitably split into two down the middle.

50-50 Dem/Rep changes to
50-30 Dem/Mod rep - 20 Right wing
To 40 Dem / 40 Mod Rep - 20 right wing

What about Congress in 2014? Large gains by Democrats, or will the GOP hold it together?

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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:46 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Norsklow wrote:
It is the 2nd term, you know? Forgive me one racially-insensitive remark but:

The Right is All White. So why give a toss in this, the second term?

...

...who knows anymore, fuck it, maybe he can do something.

If he DOESN'T then maybe the DP can forget about taking a 90% Black vote for granted.
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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:47 am

Divair wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think you are going to see a moderate GOP candidate try their damndest to fuck over the right wing in 2016.
If he has balls he'll straight up blame them for the state america is in, and blame them for losing the 2008/2012 elections.
If the party lurches to the left and back to the centre, it may survive.
If the moderate GOP's lose 2016 too, i think that'll be the end of it. We'll see them tack onto the democrats to create a super party, which will inevitably split into two down the middle.

50-50 Dem/Rep changes to
50-30 Dem/Mod rep - 20 Right wing
To 40 Dem / 40 Mod Rep - 20 right wing

What about Congress in 2014? Large gains by Democrats, or will the GOP hold it together?

Status Quo. As I said.
Joseph Stalin, 20 million plus dead -Mao-Tse-Dong, 40 million plus dead - Pol Pot, 2 million dead -Kim-Il-Sung, 5 million dead - Fidel Castro, 1 million dead.

"We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing"

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:47 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


This was almost completely white conservatives vs. everyone else. You got what you deserved if you can't learn to not be such exclusionary douchnozzles to everybody, even your own moderates. You wanna win in 2016? Harden the fuck up and compromise, cause the white vote isn't enough anymore.
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Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:47 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:48 am

Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.


Let's try and avoid anything that smacks of open trolling/baiting, please. I doubt you're entirely oblivious to the implications of that sentence; it's entirely possible to discuss the implications of African-American electoral support for Obama without getting quite so baity.

This has been a surprisingly restrained thread so far, on both sides.

Let's not ruin it.
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:48 am

This is a sad day for America. Instead of common American people coming together and voting for a president, it was minorities, special interest groups, middle-class leftist college students living on their parents' money who decided the outcome of this election. This is truly a sad day, and a huge setback for economic recovery.

Still, each easy to see other reasons behind Romney's defeat. Liberal media bias clearly favoring Obama over Romney, voter intimidation, perhaps even election fraud committed by Democrats are all reasons why the right, American candidate did not win. Luckily, the Republicans maintained their majority in the House even if they did not win the Senate. This will allow the Republicans to salvage what they can, and at least poses a major obstacle to completely turn the US into a economically wrecked, left-wing ''I'M ENTITLED TO YOUR MONEY!!'' ''welfare'' state. If the Republicans stay strong against the tide of leftist liberals and their outrageous demands, the 2016 election victory is guaranteed.

Right now, there are two different paths for the Republicans to take. Republicans could offer a hand across the aisle, outcome partisan differences and start working on the deficit together.. Or, if Obama remains stubborn, the Republicans can halt all progress until the Democrats stop drifting further and further to left and realize that the regulations and huge tax increases must be cut IMMIDIATELY.

Regarding the Tea Party, it's a complex thing. On the other hand, the Tea Party forced some very good candidates like Rick Perry (believe me, Rick Perry was indeed more moderate during his governorship) who could have had more charisma against Obama adopt more radical positions, mainly on social issues. On the other hand, picking the most moderate candidate wasn't necessarily the best bet, as the entire Republican Party could not rally behind him and give him their full support. I'm not even gonna discuss Ron Paul, their supporters are traitors and a disgrace to the GOP.

Overall, today was a sad day, but all is not lost. By staying firm against special interest groups and demanding real change and reducing the deficit, the Republicans can make sure that all is not lost and the economy won't be fully destroyed under the next four, sad and destructive years of Barack Hussein Obama.

Oh, and Maine, Washington and Maryland legalized gay marriage. That's a good thing as well,
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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:48 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Absurdity wrote:Congratulations to all the Shanaynays, Shaniquas, and Tyrones: your black god-king has been reelected.

Hope you are pleased with yourselves. For those of you who voted Romney or a third-party candidate, I'll pray for you and your country. Good luck.


This was almost completely white conservatives vs. everyone else. You got what you deserved if you can't learn to not be such exclusionary douchnozzles to everybody, even your own moderates. You wanna win in 2016? Harden the fuck up and compromise, cause the white vote isn't enough anymore.

Spot on.
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And I way too young to be Beny bith.
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Postby Serrland » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:48 am

Divair wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think you are going to see a moderate GOP candidate try their damndest to fuck over the right wing in 2016.
If he has balls he'll straight up blame them for the state america is in, and blame them for losing the 2008/2012 elections.
If the party lurches to the left and back to the centre, it may survive.
If the moderate GOP's lose 2016 too, i think that'll be the end of it. We'll see them tack onto the democrats to create a super party, which will inevitably split into two down the middle.

50-50 Dem/Rep changes to
50-30 Dem/Mod rep - 20 Right wing
To 40 Dem / 40 Mod Rep - 20 right wing

What about Congress in 2014? Large gains by Democrats, or will the GOP hold it together?


To soon to tell. If you asked the same question in 2008, for example, you might have guessed that the GOP would have made gains, but never the scope of their dominance in 2010. Too many factors still up in the air.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:49 am

Norsklow wrote:
Divair wrote:What about Congress in 2014? Large gains by Democrats, or will the GOP hold it together?

Status Quo. As I said.


I think that entirely depends.
If congress does more blocking then i don't think the people will put up with it and they'll be sweeped out
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:49 am

Hippostania wrote:This is a sad day for America. Instead of common American people coming together and voting for a president, it was minorities, special interest groups, middle-class leftist college students living on their parents' money who decided the outcome of this election. This is truly a sad day, and a huge setback for economic recovery.

Still, each easy to see other reasons behind Romney's defeat. Liberal media bias clearly favoring Obama over Romney, voter intimidation, perhaps even election fraud committed by Democrats are all reasons why the right, American candidate did not win. Luckily, the Republicans maintained their majority in the House even if they did not win the Senate. This will allow the Republicans to salvage what they can, and at least poses a major obstacle to completely turn the US into a economically wrecked, left-wing ''I'M ENTITLED TO YOUR MONEY!!'' ''welfare'' state. If the Republicans stay strong against the tide of leftist liberals and their outrageous demands, the 2016 election victory is guaranteed.

Right now, there are two different paths for the Republicans to take. Republicans could offer a hand across the aisle, outcome partisan differences and start working on the deficit together.. Or, if Obama remains stubborn, the Republicans can halt all progress until the Democrats stop drifting further and further to left and realize that the regulations and huge tax increases must be cut IMMIDIATELY.

Regarding the Tea Party, it's a complex thing. On the other hand, the Tea Party forced some very good candidates like Rick Perry (believe me, Rick Perry was indeed more moderate during his governorship) who could have had more charisma against Obama adopt more radical positions, mainly on social issues. On the other hand, picking the most moderate candidate wasn't necessarily the best bet, as the entire Republican Party could not rally behind him and give him their full support. I'm not even gonna discuss Ron Paul, their supporters are traitors and a disgrace to the GOP.

Overall, today was a sad day, but all is not lost. By staying firm against special interest groups and demanding real change and reducing the deficit, the Republicans can make sure that all is not lost and the economy won't be fully destroyed under the next four, sad and destructive years of Barack Hussein Obama.

Keep your face still, I'm having difficulty feeding on your tears.
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