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Who do you support in the USA presidential election?

Mitt Romney
451
22%
Barack Obama
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54%
Gary Johnson
106
5%
Jill Stein
118
6%
Ron Paul
264
13%
 
Total votes : 2053

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Postby United States of Republicans » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:40 pm

Congrats to Paul Ryan for being elected at first I wanted Rubio but Ryan is better

ROMNEY-RYAN 2012

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:42 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:Congrats to Paul Ryan for being elected at first I wanted Rubio but Ryan is better

ROMNEY-RYAN 2012


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Postby Agymnum » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:42 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:Congrats to Paul Ryan for being elected at first I wanted Rubio but Ryan is better

ROMNEY-RYAN 2012


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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:42 pm

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Geilinor wrote:I've been thinking for a while now that Romney will lose by a landslide. Now that he's chosen Paul Ryan for VP, I'm sure.


The issue is that Ryan and Romney are opposites. Well, not really since Romney has no stand (keeps flip-flopping) so he can't be 'opposite' Ryan unless maybe Ryan flip-flops opposite of Romney, but the idea is that Ryan is a pacification choice.

Much like how Palin was picked by McCain to pacify far-right voters, Ryan was picked by Romney to appeal to the right-wing, which lately Romney's been pissing off with his constantly-changing opinions.

My prediction? Will only drive away any center-rights Romney's attracted, so it only makes Obama's victory margin even larger.

Romney is a flip-flopper, but choosing Ryan does show that he endorses his policies. The vice president you pick reflects on what people will say and think. It certainly leaves Romney vulnerable to attack, the ads are coming.
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Postby Jocabia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:45 pm

Jefferson Confederacy wrote:I cannot believe you are debating Romney's decision to have his wife stand up in a chair... that's the kind of nonsense that makes MSNBC and Fox News grin.

I swear it's really sad that people forget what a campaign is. He's not some movie star or singer or something. He's involved in a long drawn out job interview.

If a guy walks into my office and interviews for a job and, during the interview process, treats his wife like Romney treats his, he's not getting hired. I don't care if they guy invented the internet, he's not getting the job. Why? Because I would always have to watch out for a guy who is willing to treat an individual like that, let alone his wife.

That's the thing. Romney and many of his supporters have forgotten he is interviewing for that job. His own father said that if your interviews, the people, ask for your tax returns, you show your tax returns. Mitt Romney's response to that is "Why should I show the people as unimportant as voters how I have obeyed and/or exploited tax law?"

Why? Because you're interviewing with for a job. And when he interviewed for the job of Vice President, how many years did he show John McCain? The same number we're asking for. And what Romney proves when he refuses, or mistreats his wife in front of us, or attacks someone over cookies, is that he doesn't actually feel like we are the interviewers. And that's where he's wrong.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:54 pm

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Jefferson Confederacy wrote:I cannot believe you are debating Romney's decision to have his wife stand up in a chair... that's the kind of nonsense that makes MSNBC and Fox News grin.

I swear it's really sad that people forget what a campaign is. He's not some movie star or singer or something. He's involved in a long drawn out job interview.

If a guy walks into my office and interviews for a job and, during the interview process, treats his wife like Romney treats his, he's not getting hired. I don't care if they guy invented the internet, he's not getting the job. Why? Because I would always have to watch out for a guy who is willing to treat an individual like that, let alone his wife.

That's the thing. Romney and many of his supporters have forgotten he is interviewing for that job. His own father said that if your interviews, the people, ask for your tax returns, you show your tax returns. Mitt Romney's response to that is "Why should I show the people as unimportant as voters how I have obeyed and/or exploited tax law?"

Why? Because you're interviewing with for a job. And when he interviewed for the job of Vice President, how many years did he show John McCain? The same number we're asking for. And what Romney proves when he refuses, or mistreats his wife in front of us, or attacks someone over cookies, is that he doesn't actually feel like we are the interviewers. And that's where he's wrong.

And that's where the voters should screw him over.
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Postby Paulmania » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:01 am

Jocabia wrote:
Jefferson Confederacy wrote:I cannot believe you are debating Romney's decision to have his wife stand up in a chair... that's the kind of nonsense that makes MSNBC and Fox News grin.

I swear it's really sad that people forget what a campaign is. He's not some movie star or singer or something. He's involved in a long drawn out job interview.

If a guy walks into my office and interviews for a job and, during the interview process, treats his wife like Romney treats his, he's not getting hired. I don't care if they guy invented the internet, he's not getting the job. Why? Because I would always have to watch out for a guy who is willing to treat an individual like that, let alone his wife.

That's the thing. Romney and many of his supporters have forgotten he is interviewing for that job. His own father said that if your interviews, the people, ask for your tax returns, you show your tax returns. Mitt Romney's response to that is "Why should I show the people as unimportant as voters how I have obeyed and/or exploited tax law?"

Why? Because you're interviewing with for a job. And when he interviewed for the job of Vice President, how many years did he show John McCain? The same number we're asking for. And what Romney proves when he refuses, or mistreats his wife in front of us, or attacks someone over cookies, is that he doesn't actually feel like we are the interviewers. And that's where he's wrong.


I bet you weren't saying that when Obama was mum on his birth certificate.

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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:08 am

Paulmania wrote:
Jocabia wrote:I swear it's really sad that people forget what a campaign is. He's not some movie star or singer or something. He's involved in a long drawn out job interview.

If a guy walks into my office and interviews for a job and, during the interview process, treats his wife like Romney treats his, he's not getting hired. I don't care if they guy invented the internet, he's not getting the job. Why? Because I would always have to watch out for a guy who is willing to treat an individual like that, let alone his wife.

That's the thing. Romney and many of his supporters have forgotten he is interviewing for that job. His own father said that if your interviews, the people, ask for your tax returns, you show your tax returns. Mitt Romney's response to that is "Why should I show the people as unimportant as voters how I have obeyed and/or exploited tax law?"

Why? Because you're interviewing with for a job. And when he interviewed for the job of Vice President, how many years did he show John McCain? The same number we're asking for. And what Romney proves when he refuses, or mistreats his wife in front of us, or attacks someone over cookies, is that he doesn't actually feel like we are the interviewers. And that's where he's wrong.


I bet you weren't saying that when Obama was mum on his birth certificate.

Yeah, a kid who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar won't get off by saying, "But Johnny did it too!" Try again.

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Postby Paulmania » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:12 am

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Paulmania wrote:
I bet you weren't saying that when Obama was mum on his birth certificate.

Yeah, a kid who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar won't get off by saying, "But Johnny did it too!" Try again.


Let me reiterate that. Why can Obama keep his birth certificate on the DL but Romney must reveal all his taxes?

I don't care about Obama's BC BTW, just pointing out this ridiculous hypocrisy in that.

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:14 am

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Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:Yeah, a kid who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar won't get off by saying, "But Johnny did it too!" Try again.


Let me reiterate that. Why can Obama keep his birth certificate on the DL but Romney must reveal all his taxes?

I don't care about Obama's BC BTW, just pointing out this ridiculous hypocrisy in that.


Okay. Let's move on.

So long as one admits to being a hypocrite, that doesn't really phase someone.

On a regular basis I'm a hypocrite. Doesn't make me feel bad at night knowing I talked down on someone for being racist (against blacks) when I'm actually generally quite racist (against whites).
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Postby Paulmania » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:17 am

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Paulmania wrote:
Let me reiterate that. Why can Obama keep his birth certificate on the DL but Romney must reveal all his taxes?

I don't care about Obama's BC BTW, just pointing out this ridiculous hypocrisy in that.


Okay. Let's move on.

So long as one admits to being a hypocrite, that doesn't really phase someone.

On a regular basis I'm a hypocrite. Doesn't make me feel bad at night knowing I talked down on someone for being racist (against blacks) when I'm actually generally quite racist (against whites).


That's not a good thing.

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:18 am

Paulmania wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Okay. Let's move on.

So long as one admits to being a hypocrite, that doesn't really phase someone.

On a regular basis I'm a hypocrite. Doesn't make me feel bad at night knowing I talked down on someone for being racist (against blacks) when I'm actually generally quite racist (against whites).


That's not a good thing.


It's who I am. I accept that.

You can't quantify good or bad, anyways, since that would technically imply you to be in a morally superior position to me. No one is morally superior to the other - we're all equal.
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Postby Laerod » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:14 am

Paulmania wrote:Let me reiterate that. Why can Obama keep his birth certificate on the DL but Romney must reveal all his taxes?

Because the orange doesn't have handlebars. Obama released his birth certificate. Birth certificates and verifications by Republican governors just aren't enough for some people, but that doesn't mean Obama was coy about it.

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:17 am

Paulmania wrote:I bet you weren't saying that when Obama was mum on his birth certificate.

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Postby Alien Space Bats » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:11 am

Because it honestly would have never occurred to me that the son of an American citizen wouldn't be an American citizen by birth.

Whatever color he is.
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Postby Khadgar » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:21 am

Alien Space Bats wrote:Because it honestly would have never occurred to me that the son of an American citizen wouldn't be an American citizen by birth.

Whatever color he is.


Republicans, they're sticklers for dotting every I and crossing every T, publicly. Unless of course you're referring to tax records, then it's "fuck you that's private!".

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Postby Laerod » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:23 am

Khadgar wrote:
Alien Space Bats wrote:Because it honestly would have never occurred to me that the son of an American citizen wouldn't be an American citizen by birth.

Whatever color he is.


Republicans, they're sticklers for dotting every I and crossing every T, publicly. Unless of course you're referring to their own tax records, then it's "fuck you that's private!".

Fixed that for you.

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Postby Khadgar » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:25 am

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Republicans, they're sticklers for dotting every I and crossing every T, publicly. Unless of course you're referring to their own tax records, then it's "fuck you that's private!".

Fixed that for you.


Oh quite correct.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:03 am

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Republicans, they're sticklers for dotting every I and crossing every T, publicly. Unless of course you're referring to their own tax records, then it's "fuck you that's private!".

Fixed that for you.


Especially when said Republican demanded that everyone else release their tax records.
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Postby Laerod » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:25 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Laerod wrote:Fixed that for you.


Especially when said Republican demanded that everyone else release their tax records.

Got a quote on that? Googling support for that is kinda hard, unfortunately...

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Especially when said Republican demanded that everyone else release their tax records.

Got a quote on that? Googling support for that is kinda hard, unfortunately...


Ba-zing.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:35 am

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Especially when said Republican demanded that everyone else release their tax records.

Got a quote on that? Googling support for that is kinda hard, unfortunately...


search term - romney demands candidates reveal tax returns


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Postby Zanzibarnia » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:37 am

Laerod wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Especially when said Republican demanded that everyone else release their tax records.

Got a quote on that? Googling support for that is kinda hard, unfortunately...


Can't really attest to its veracity, but here's the first link I came up with:

Mitt Romney requested “several” years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents that the candidate himself.

In a briefing with reporters in Virginia Saturday, senior adviser Beth Myers, who was charged with headed the vice president selection process, declined to specify exactly how many years of tax returns were required, saying only that “several” were requested.


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Postby Polonia and Litvania » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:46 am

To be frank, I support Obama. Romney has no real base other than "He's not doing good!!1!one!"
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