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Postby Albrante » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:01 pm

The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Albrante wrote:
The Halseyist Faction wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
  1. Napoleonic Empire
  2. Mughal Empire
  3. Austria-Hungary
  4. Prussian Empire
  5. British Empire


How is it that the nation on the bottom kicks the crap out of the nation on the top?

I'm with him on that.

I would say:
1,Great Britian, no question there
2,Portuguese Empire, They kicked a lot of arse, made a lot of money and had a tiny home population to boot.
3,America of the Cold War
4,Russia of the Cold War
5,Russia of the Tsarist era

The only reason Imperial Russia lasted so long was because of their many troops and their cold winters.


Imperial Russia's empire wasn't great because of its longevity. It was great because it was bloody huge. The went east and kept going until they hit the pacific.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:01 pm

The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.
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Postby Padullahstan » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:02 pm

Ottoman Empire
Mongol Empire
Japanese Empire
Chinese Empire
Parthian Empire
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:03 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.

Nah, Sealand is the greatest Empire to ever grace the earth, obviously, :lol2:

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:03 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:Historically, these have been the five empires which displayed a dominant influence over the world. Other empires, such as the Roman ones, the Chinese ones, the Ottoman empire, Japanese empire, Russian empire, Soviet "empire" - displayed contested or primarily regional influence, sharing the stage with others.

Rome 'shared the stage' of Europe? This is news to me. :meh:
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Postby Albrante » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:03 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.

Kalibarr: I did not jest, and don't call me shirley!

Also sorry to you French but well...
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Tahar Joblis wrote:Historically, these have been the five empires which displayed a dominant influence over the world. Other empires, such as the Roman ones, the Chinese ones, the Ottoman empire, Japanese empire, Russian empire, Soviet "empire" - displayed contested or primarily regional influence, sharing the stage with others.

Rome 'shared the stage' of Europe? This is news to me. :meh:

If you count the Germans and the Slavs, ;)

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:06 pm

Andertion wrote:1. Mongol Empire (controled the world)
2. USSR (controled or influenced most of Asia, Europe, and some of Africa)
3. Roman Empire (controled most of the know world at that time)
4. Napoleonic Empire
5. British Empire (a lot of colonies all over the world)

You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:07 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Andertion wrote:1. Mongol Empire (controled the world)
2. USSR (controled or influenced most of Asia, Europe, and some of Africa)
3. Roman Empire (controled most of the know world at that time)
4. Napoleonic Empire
5. British Empire (a lot of colonies all over the world)

You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.

It was really only between China and Rome, noone else really compared to either...

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Postby The Islands of Andaman » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:08 pm

Albrante wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.

Kalibarr: I did not jest, and don't call me shirley!

Also sorry to you French but well...
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True, France never had much victories, but Napoleon was special. He won and fought more battles than Alexander the Great, Fredrick the Great, Caesar and Hannibal combined.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:10 pm

The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.

Kalibarr: I did not jest, and don't call me shirley!

Also sorry to you French but well...
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True, France never had much victories, but Napoleon was special. He won and fought more battles than Alexander the Great, Fredrick the Great, Caesar and Hannibal combined.
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Postby Kalibarr » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:10 pm

Albrante wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Islands of Andaman wrote:
Kalibarr wrote:duh:
1.Sealand
2. Vatican City
3. Monaco
4. Malta
5. San Marino

I can understand the Vatican but when was San Marino an empire?


Surely, he was simply in jest.

Kalibarr: I did not jest, and don't call me shirley!

:lol: I was jesting, a little

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:13 pm

Maurepas wrote:If you count the Germans and the Slavs, ;)

Neither of whom were united forces. :meh:
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:14 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Tahar Joblis wrote:Historically, these have been the five empires which displayed a dominant influence over the world. Other empires, such as the Roman ones, the Chinese ones, the Ottoman empire, Japanese empire, Russian empire, Soviet "empire" - displayed contested or primarily regional influence, sharing the stage with others.

Rome 'shared the stage' of Europe? This is news to me. :meh:

Rome, while highly influential on the North African coast, Egypt, Middle East, and Europe, shared the global stage with several other major empires who were similarly influential in their own regions, namely several Chinese and Indian empires. Rome's influence was limited.

The least widespread influence, geographically speaking, on the list is either that of the French or Mongolians; the French I mostly put there because of their dominance of Europe in a period in which Europe in turn was dominating the globe, and hence their influence is less direct.

The Mongolians influenced at least as much of the globe as the Romans did, and in most cases did so much more dramatically during their period of dominance. Britain, for example, was influenced less directly, but India, China, Poland, Russia, Japan, etc rather more directly.

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Postby Andertion » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:14 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Andertion wrote:1. Mongol Empire (controled the world)
2. USSR (controled or influenced most of Asia, Europe, and some of Africa)
3. Roman Empire (controled most of the know world at that time)
4. Napoleonic Empire
5. British Empire (a lot of colonies all over the world)

You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.


True, but Rome was similar in size and/or power to China and India at that time. Also Rome was the most influential Empire of it's time period so its the first thing that comes to many people's minds.

I thing fame has a bit to do with most powerful...
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:14 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Maurepas wrote:If you count the Germans and the Slavs, ;)

Neither of whom were united forces. :meh:

True, they weren't part of a Guild, but they were still on the Stage, :p

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:15 pm

Arumdaum wrote:You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.

Oh, yes, because we all know how stable China was at that time, what with it's highly respected and well-run military and strong, yet fairly progressive (Relatively speaking) state. :roll:
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Postby The Willosaurs » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:16 pm

US, Britain, Napoleonic France, Mongols, and Rome.

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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:16 pm

The problem with the Chinese Empire is that they didn't really get out of China much,

I can't see an argument for not putting Rome up top, in terms of length, size and influence it clearly stands out. I'll accept the Mongolian Empire as well on reflection.

I have issues with the British as well, they were lucky to be placed off the coast of Europe in some senses, it was a naval empire otherwise they took land from poor competition, still, for influence..

So..

Rome
Mongolia
Britain for the top 3.

I can accept the Ottoman to some extent, but not sure if they make the top 5.

Persia
Abbasid - for influence.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:17 pm

Maurepas wrote:True, they weren't part of a Guild, but they were still on the Stage, :p

They were extras. Dozens of extras, granted, but in the end, the only notable thing they did was kill off a central character. :p
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:18 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.

Oh, yes, because we all know how stable China was at that time, what with it's highly respected and well-run military and strong, yet fairly progressive (Relatively speaking) state. :roll:

Well, it depends which era of Rome ... and which era of China ... you mean. From the founding of the Roman state to the final dissolution of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire is a span of almost two thousand years, and China has an even longer Imperial history. :eyebrow: Both waxed and waned. Neither exhibited truly dramatic - or lopsided - influence on the other at any point during that span.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:19 pm

Andertion wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Andertion wrote:1. Mongol Empire (controled the world)
2. USSR (controled or influenced most of Asia, Europe, and some of Africa)
3. Roman Empire (controled most of the know world at that time)
4. Napoleonic Empire
5. British Empire (a lot of colonies all over the world)

You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.


True, but Rome was similar in size and/or power to China and India at that time. Also Rome was the most influential Empire of it's time period so its the first thing that comes to many people's minds.

I thing fame has a bit to do with most powerful...

Rome influence was limited like all the other powers. Rome mostly influenced Europeans, China influenced east Asia, and India southern Asia.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.

Oh, yes, because we all know how stable China was at that time, what with it's highly respected and well-run military and strong, yet fairly progressive (Relatively speaking) state. :roll:

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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:20 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.

Oh, yes, because we all know how stable China was at that time, what with it's highly respected and well-run military and strong, yet fairly progressive (Relatively speaking) state. :roll:

Well, it depends which era of Rome ... and which era of China ... you mean. From the founding of the Roman state to the final dissolution of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire is a span of almost two thousand years, and China has an even longer Imperial history. :eyebrow: Both waxed and waned. Neither exhibited truly dramatic - or lopsided - influence on the other at any point during that span.


See, you have to credit Rome with the spread of Christianity, if we're going to add lasting influence to the mix, which is why I also chuck in the Abbasid empire for Muslim belief spread.

China has always been reasonably inward-looking, I'm just not sure it impacts history too much outside its own borders.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:21 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Andertion wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Andertion wrote:1. Mongol Empire (controled the world)
2. USSR (controled or influenced most of Asia, Europe, and some of Africa)
3. Roman Empire (controled most of the know world at that time)
4. Napoleonic Empire
5. British Empire (a lot of colonies all over the world)

You mean the world Rome knew. Rome was only powerful if you didn't pay attention to the rest of the world.


True, but Rome was similar in size and/or power to China and India at that time. Also Rome was the most influential Empire of it's time period so its the first thing that comes to many people's minds.

I thing fame has a bit to do with most powerful...

Rome influence was limited like all the other powers. Rome mostly influenced Europeans, China influenced east Asia, and India southern Asia.

But, at the time, only two of those were unified in any sense, and neither of them can be said to objectively be superior to the other really...

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