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Free Republics
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:50 pm

Jeckland wrote:Can I sacrifice my rank points and go in for the boi? I didn't know about it last time, so...


You can, however, enter a puppet in the BoI, but puppets don't count for the sake of the BoI count (nor does a single, first-time nation, if you are known to have entered a previous World Bowl) and the host may exclude them.
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Postby Cassadaigua » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:19 pm

Karditan wrote:
Cassadaigua wrote:Not in favor.
Looks like its going to go to vote now, so let me say this: We are not assured a Baptism of Iron every cycle. If a cycle takes place without a BoI, then the first time nations of that class are at a disadvantage, and therefore why we instituted this VERY GOOD and IMPORTANT clause, that allows them to get an average rank. We're going to bypass that just because "it's not worth the hassle?" Let's bypass anything that's not worth the hassle then.

Vote No. :p


Now I've no idea if this is meant to be sarcastic (it has some of the key markings of such posts, but it's always hard to discern in text form), but for anyone else holding this view: What would average out to be something like 0.75 ranking points would usually be overcome by just embellishing your roster a bit, or putting a little extra work into your MD1 RP, considering the RP scales per-MD for the World Bowl are usually have a maximum in the range of 2-4. It really is insignificant.


Yes, it was a sarcastic way of making the point I wanted to make. After all, I find the BoI in itself, not worth the hassle.

But since we're going to have it, I do support the Free Republics proposal.
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Postby Equestrian States » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:06 pm

Since I apparently didn't post these earlier:
1 Cassadaigua 23.04
2 Saintland 21.55
3 German Zerabithea 21.37
4 Qazox 21.00
5 Stretta 20.16
6 West Guiana (New West Guiana) 19.75
7 The Royal Kingdom of Quebec 18.88
8 Darmen 18.35
9 Equestrian States 18.31
10 Ko-oren 18.04
11 Allamunnic States (The Fanboyists) 17.96
12 Karditan 17.08
13 Osarius 15.89
14 West Angola 15.20
15 Taeshan 14.95
16 Vettrera 12.04
17 Texacano 11.04
18 Estope 10.75
19 The Serbian Empire 10.73
20 Gaveo 9.50
21 Gregoryisgodistan 8.78
22 Thatius 8.65
23 Cosumar 8.45
24 Ati Kaluraya 7.42
25 The Sova Empire 7.26
26 San Jose Guayabal 7.04
27 The Fair Republic 7.03
28 New Wolfopolis 6.81
29 HopNation 6.50
30 Shadowbourne 6.43
31 Zhenovia 6.31
32 Caek of the Wolfen 6.20
33 Lunar Republic Islands 6.15
34 Anarchist States of America 6.07
35 Kinzar 6.02
36 Azurlavai 5.75
36 New North Aqmuland 5.75
38 Baughmerica 5.50
39 Accaradola 5.45
40 Chunnan 5.37
41 Free South Califas 5.12
42 Free Republics 5.08
43 The Glorious Commune 5.06
44 Torisakia 5.00
45 TheStonedSurfers 4.82
46 Kriegiersien 4.77
47 The Knox Valley 4.61
47 Unolia 4.61
49 Anditia 4.55
49 Super-Llamaland 4.55
51 Audioslavia 4.50
52 Nassau Hessen 4.39
53 German Shepherds 4.25
54 Sibirsky 4.23
55 Sarzonia 4.17
56 Konariona 4.10
57 Handrew 3.95
57 New Koln 3.95
57 Polar Islandstates 3.95
57 Zeneabo 3.95
61 Grandterre 3.87
62 Lisander 3.75
62 Lymantatia 3.75
62 Lzherusskia 3.75
62 New Tebow 3.75
66 The Kytler Peninsulae 3.33
66 Western Cuba 3.33
68 Thrilledge 3.31
69 Levivania 3.27
70 Subramani 2.96
71 Yesopalitha 2.87
72 Sjovenia 2.75
73 Emeralds United 2.70
73 Yttribia 2.70
75 Sicoutimont 2.56
76 Jeckland 2.50
76 Michael VII 2.50
76 Quakmybush 2.50
79 Callumackbar 2.27
80 Catholican Catholica 1.95
81 Manchenana 1.85
82 Sasoon 1.83
82 Telsta 1.83
84 Cyborg Holland 1.79
85 Carasatoga 1.67
86 Powersith 1.61
87 Schmiegelland 1.46
88 Backyard Sports 1.43
88 Bongo Johnson 1.43
90 Democratic States of Fenbar 1.31
91 Franklin Delano Bluth 1.25
91 Gloriax 1.25
91 Independent Digital Systems 1.25
91 Juan del Pastel 1.25
91 MoonBase Fourcannon 1.25
96 Southwick 1.21
97 Northton 1.10
98 Slembana 1.07
99 Ironite 1.05
100 De La Fleur 1.00
100 Lunas Legion 1.00
100 The Wacha 1.00
103 Crysuko 0.93
104 Alkoul 0.83
104 Ilnavires 0.83
104 Super Bwitain 0.83
107 Catonia Majora 0.70
108 Zeedoom 0.54
109 Firiminaz 0.52
110 Euskirribakondara 0.48
111 Kintratar 0.44
111 United Warrisons 0.44
113 Demonslove 0.40
113 Rodard 0.40
115 Quebecois Acadiana 0.36
115 The Babbage Islands 0.36
115 Zomni 0.36
118 German American States 0.22
119 Banthegia 0.00
119 Evangelical Islands of Altai 0.00
119 Gzbfernigambia 0.00
119 Kingdom of Costa Luna 0.00
119 Korena 0.00
119 Marcos Dynamite 0.00
119 Myeeria 0.00
119 Oralana 0.00
119 The Sovan Antithesis 0.00

The rankings will be updated again following the BoI (assuming that we will have one). Should the BoI not be held for any reason, the World Bowl host should not use these rankings as they don't factor in the decline of the value of the pre-WB22 BoI.
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Postby The Fanboyists » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:52 pm

Man, when was the last time I fell out of the top ten?

Oh, I'm back, btw. Dunno if anyone noticed I was gone for a bit there. :p
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Postby World Bowl » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:41 pm

Voting time! Note: Pending the results of the host vote, I am leaning towards cancelling this BoI, as we're still quite a ways off from the new user quota and I'd rather get the WB started sooner rather than later.

Nations on the World Bowl Assembly may vote; potential hosts cannot vote for the event they are bidding for. All votes should be sent to this nation [World Bowl].

Voting ends in four days, at 8PM EST on Tuesday, April 22nd.

BoI Host Voting (should the BoI be held):
1. Accept Super-Llamaland & San José Guayabal's bid
2. Hold no BoI (we're not rebidding for this)

WB Host Voting
:
1. Accept Estope's bid
2. Re-open bidding




We also have constitutional voting. As the first two proposals are mutually exclusive, we'll have them voted against each other.

Proposal 1 (Karditan):
Proposed Alteration to the Baptism of Fire Amendment
Article VII of the Baptism of Fire Amendment, which currently reads:
"In the event a Baptism of Iron Tournament is not operated prior to a World Bowl,
new nations shall receive a ratings boost equivalent to the average ranking for a Baptism of Iron Tournament participant."
Shall be stricken and and will not be applied to any future Baptism of Iron tournaments.


Proposal 2 (Saintland):
Article VII of the Baptism of Iron Amendment shall be edited to read: "In the event a Baptism of Iron Tournament is not operated prior to a World Bowl, new nations shall receive a ratings boost equivalent to 50% of the ranking points that would be obtained for a perfect Baptism of Iron Tournament."

[That equals .75 ranking points]

Ranking Proposal Vote:
1. Accept Proposal 1
2. Accept Proposal 2
3. Reject both Proposal 1 & 2




Proposal 3 (Saintland):
The following text shall be added to the Duties of the World Bowl Association President: "In the event that an elected World Bowl or Baptism of Iron host is unable to complete the tournament, the President may, at their discretion, choose a replacement host or hold a vote to choose a replacement host."

To avoid conflicts, the following striken text will be removed from Article V: "If there are no active host bids for the Baptism of Iron on the date initially set by the World Bowl President as the end of Baptism of Iron host bidding, or if all active host bids withdraw during host voting or the duly selected Baptism of Iron host withdraws after voting, a Baptism of Iron tournament shall not be held."


Host Appointment Proposal Vote:
1. Accept Proposal 3
2. Reject Proposal 3
Last edited by World Bowl on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:48 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Postby Jeckland » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:45 am

April 22st? Is that the 21st or 22nd?
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Postby Karditan » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:47 am

Jeckland wrote:April 22st? Is that the 21st or 22nd?


That's the 22nd. Had written the 21st first then realized it was actually the 22nd, apparently missed the suffix. It's Tuesday, ok?
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Postby World Bowl » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:04 pm

Voting results!

BoI Host Vote:
Accept the only bid: 8
Hold no BoI: 0

That said, we're only on 10 new users at the moment. I seriously doubt we'll be getting six more, so I'm going to go ahead and cancel the BoI for this cycle. Sorry, SJG and SLL; I hope to see you two bidding for future events.

WB Host Vote:
Accept the only bid: 7
Reopen Bidding: 0

Estope is officially the host of the twenty-third World Bowl; timing and cutoffs are now passed on to him.

Ranking Proposal Vote:
Accept Proposal 1: 2
Accept Proposal 2: 6
Reject Both: 0

Proposal 2 has been accepted, so the new nations that will be lacking a BoI will enter the WB with a ranking of 0.75.

Host Appointment Proposal Vote:
Accept Proposal 3: 7
Reject Proposal 3: 1

Proposal 3 has also been accepted, so I'll get to editing the constitution.
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Postby Estope » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:34 pm

The Everything Thread is now up. I'm hoping to have the competition started on Monday. As soon as the ranks are updated I will post the pots and make the group draws.
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Equestrian States
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Postby Equestrian States » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:47 pm

Estope wrote:As soon as the ranks are updated I will post the pots and make the group draws.

Ask, and you shall receive...

1 Cassadaigua 23.04
2 German Zerabithea 21.37
3 Saintland 21.29
4 Qazox 21.00
5 Stretta 19.79
6 West Guiana (New West Guiana) 19.75
7 The Royal Kingdom of Quebec 18.88
8 Darmen 18.35
9 Equestrian States 18.31
10 Ko-oren 18.04
11 Allamunnic States (The Fanboyists) 17.96
12 Karditan 17.08
13 Osarius 15.89
14 Taeshan 14.95
15 West Angola 14.93
16 Vettrera 12.04
17 Estope 10.75
18 Texacano 10.73
19 The Serbian Empire 10.44
20 Gaveo 9.50
21 Thatius 8.65
22 Cosumar 8.45
23 Gregoryisgodistan 8.41
24 The Sova Empire 7.26
25 Ati Kaluraya 7.23
26 The Fair Republic 7.03
27 San Jose Guayabal 6.85
28 New Wolfopolis 6.51
29 Shadowbourne 6.43
30 Lunar Republic Islands 6.15
31 Kinzar 5.89
32 Caek of the Wolfen 5.83
33 HopNation 5.75
34 Zhenovia 5.66
35 Anarchist States of America 5.54
36 Accaradola 5.45
37 Azurlavai 5.38
37 New North Aqmuland 5.38
39 Baughmerica 5.25
40 Chunnan 5.18
41 Free South Califas 5.12
42 Torisakia 5.00
43 Kriegiersien 4.58
44 Anditia 4.55
44 Super-Llamaland 4.55
46 Free Republics 4.42
47 The Glorious Commune 4.41
48 TheStonedSurfers 4.29
49 Sibirsky 4.23
50 The Knox Valley 4.18
50 Unolia 4.18
52 Sarzonia 4.17
53 Audioslavia 4.13
54 Nassau Hessen 4.01
55 German Shepherds 4.00
56 Konariona 3.87
57 Handrew 3.85
57 New Koln 3.85
57 Polar Islandstates 3.85
57 Zeneabo 3.85
61 Lisander 3.75
61 Lymantatia 3.75
61 Lzherusskia 3.75
61 New Tebow 3.75
65 Grandterre 3.57
66 The Kytler Peninsulae 3.33
66 Western Cuba 3.33
68 Thrilledge 3.31
69 Levivania 3.21
70 Yesopalitha 2.87
71 Subramani 2.75
72 Sjovenia 2.63
73 Emeralds United 2.60
73 Yttribia 2.60
75 Sicoutimont 2.56
76 Jeckland 2.50
76 Michael VII 2.50
76 Quakmybush 2.50
79 Callumackbar 1.97
80 Catholican Catholica 1.85
81 Cyborg Holland 1.79
82 Manchenana 1.76
83 Sasoon 1.75
83 Telsta 1.75
85 Carasatoga 1.67
86 Powersith 1.61
87 Backyard Sports 1.43
87 Bongo Johnson 1.43
89 Schmiegelland 1.25
89 Franklin Delano Bluth 1.25
89 Gloriax 1.25
89 Independent Digital Systems 1.25
89 Juan del Pastel 1.25
89 MoonBase Fourcannon 1.25
95 Democratic States of Fenbar 1.07
95 Slembana 1.07
97 Southwick 1.02
98 De La Fleur 0.92
98 Lunas Legion 0.92
98 The Wacha 0.92
101 Northton 0.89
101 Ironite 0.89
103 Alkoul 0.83
103 Ilnavires 0.83
103 Super Bwitain 0.83
106 The Sovan Antithesis 0.75
106 McKleigh 0.75
106 The Tidal Wake 0.75
106 Darvale 0.75
106 Zenic 0.75
106 Macquarrie 0.75
106 Alparia 0.75
106 Hamamatsu 0.75
106 Menukten 0.75
106 Kykid8 0.75
106 Icatus 0.75
117 Crysuko 0.71
118 Catonia Majora 0.54
118 Zeedoom 0.54
120 Firiminaz 0.36
120 Euskirribakondara 0.36
120 Kintratar 0.36
120 United Warrisons 0.36
120 Demonslove 0.36
120 Rodard 0.36
120 Quebecois Acadiana 0.36
120 The Babbage Islands 0.36
120 Zomni 0.36
129 German American States 0.18
130 Banthegia 0.00
130 Evangelical Islands of Altai 0.00
130 Gzbfernigambia 0.00
130 Kingdom of Costa Luna 0.00
130 Korena 0.00
130 Marcos Dynamite 0.00
130 Myeeria 0.00
130 Oralana 0.00
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Postby German Zerabithea » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:47 pm

Equestrian States wrote:
Estope wrote:As soon as the ranks are updated I will post the pots and make the group draws.

Ask, and you shall receive...

1 Cassadaigua 23.04
2 German Zerabithea 21.37
3 Saintland 21.29
4 Qazox 21.00
5 Stretta 19.79
6 West Guiana (New West Guiana) 19.75
7 The Royal Kingdom of Quebec 18.88
8 Darmen 18.35
9 Equestrian States 18.31
10 Ko-oren 18.04
11 Allamunnic States (The Fanboyists) 17.96
12 Karditan 17.08
13 Osarius 15.89
14 Taeshan 14.95
15 West Angola 14.93
16 Vettrera 12.04
17 Estope 10.75
18 Texacano 10.73
19 The Serbian Empire 10.44
20 Gaveo 9.50
21 Thatius 8.65
22 Cosumar 8.45
23 Gregoryisgodistan 8.41
24 The Sova Empire 7.26
25 Ati Kaluraya 7.23
26 The Fair Republic 7.03
27 San Jose Guayabal 6.85
28 New Wolfopolis 6.51
29 Shadowbourne 6.43
30 Lunar Republic Islands 6.15
31 Kinzar 5.89
32 Caek of the Wolfen 5.83
33 HopNation 5.75
34 Zhenovia 5.66
35 Anarchist States of America 5.54
36 Accaradola 5.45
37 Azurlavai 5.38
37 New North Aqmuland 5.38
39 Baughmerica 5.25
40 Chunnan 5.18
41 Free South Califas 5.12
42 Torisakia 5.00
43 Kriegiersien 4.58
44 Anditia 4.55
44 Super-Llamaland 4.55
46 Free Republics 4.42
47 The Glorious Commune 4.41
48 TheStonedSurfers 4.29
49 Sibirsky 4.23
50 The Knox Valley 4.18
50 Unolia 4.18
52 Sarzonia 4.17
53 Audioslavia 4.13
54 Nassau Hessen 4.01
55 German Shepherds 4.00
56 Konariona 3.87
57 Handrew 3.85
57 New Koln 3.85
57 Polar Islandstates 3.85
57 Zeneabo 3.85
61 Lisander 3.75
61 Lymantatia 3.75
61 Lzherusskia 3.75
61 New Tebow 3.75
65 Grandterre 3.57
66 The Kytler Peninsulae 3.33
66 Western Cuba 3.33
68 Thrilledge 3.31
69 Levivania 3.21
70 Yesopalitha 2.87
71 Subramani 2.75
72 Sjovenia 2.63
73 Emeralds United 2.60
73 Yttribia 2.60
75 Sicoutimont 2.56
76 Jeckland 2.50
76 Michael VII 2.50
76 Quakmybush 2.50
79 Callumackbar 1.97
80 Catholican Catholica 1.85
81 Cyborg Holland 1.79
82 Manchenana 1.76
83 Sasoon 1.75
83 Telsta 1.75
85 Carasatoga 1.67
86 Powersith 1.61
87 Backyard Sports 1.43
87 Bongo Johnson 1.43
89 Schmiegelland 1.25
89 Franklin Delano Bluth 1.25
89 Gloriax 1.25
89 Independent Digital Systems 1.25
89 Juan del Pastel 1.25
89 MoonBase Fourcannon 1.25
95 Democratic States of Fenbar 1.07
95 Slembana 1.07
97 Southwick 1.02
98 De La Fleur 0.92
98 Lunas Legion 0.92
98 The Wacha 0.92
101 Northton 0.89
101 Ironite 0.89
103 Alkoul 0.83
103 Ilnavires 0.83
103 Super Bwitain 0.83
106 The Sovan Antithesis 0.75
106 McKleigh 0.75
106 The Tidal Wake 0.75
106 Darvale 0.75
106 Zenic 0.75
106 Macquarrie 0.75
106 Alparia 0.75
106 Hamamatsu 0.75
106 Menukten 0.75
106 Kykid8 0.75
106 Icatus 0.75
117 Crysuko 0.71
118 Catonia Majora 0.54
118 Zeedoom 0.54
120 Firiminaz 0.36
120 Euskirribakondara 0.36
120 Kintratar 0.36
120 United Warrisons 0.36
120 Demonslove 0.36
120 Rodard 0.36
120 Quebecois Acadiana 0.36
120 The Babbage Islands 0.36
120 Zomni 0.36
129 German American States 0.18
130 Banthegia 0.00
130 Evangelical Islands of Altai 0.00
130 Gzbfernigambia 0.00
130 Kingdom of Costa Luna 0.00
130 Korena 0.00
130 Marcos Dynamite 0.00
130 Myeeria 0.00
130 Oralana 0.00


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Postby Saintland » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:50 pm

German zerabithea wrote:
Equestrian States wrote:Ask, and you shall receive...

1 Cassadaigua 23.04
2 German Zerabithea 21.37
3 Saintland 21.29
4 Qazox 21.00
5 Stretta 19.79
6 West Guiana (New West Guiana) 19.75
7 The Royal Kingdom of Quebec 18.88
8 Darmen 18.35
9 Equestrian States 18.31
10 Ko-oren 18.04
11 Allamunnic States (The Fanboyists) 17.96
12 Karditan 17.08
13 Osarius 15.89
14 Taeshan 14.95
15 West Angola 14.93
16 Vettrera 12.04
17 Estope 10.75
18 Texacano 10.73
19 The Serbian Empire 10.44
20 Gaveo 9.50
21 Thatius 8.65
22 Cosumar 8.45
23 Gregoryisgodistan 8.41
24 The Sova Empire 7.26
25 Ati Kaluraya 7.23
26 The Fair Republic 7.03
27 San Jose Guayabal 6.85
28 New Wolfopolis 6.51
29 Shadowbourne 6.43
30 Lunar Republic Islands 6.15
31 Kinzar 5.89
32 Caek of the Wolfen 5.83
33 HopNation 5.75
34 Zhenovia 5.66
35 Anarchist States of America 5.54
36 Accaradola 5.45
37 Azurlavai 5.38
37 New North Aqmuland 5.38
39 Baughmerica 5.25
40 Chunnan 5.18
41 Free South Califas 5.12
42 Torisakia 5.00
43 Kriegiersien 4.58
44 Anditia 4.55
44 Super-Llamaland 4.55
46 Free Republics 4.42
47 The Glorious Commune 4.41
48 TheStonedSurfers 4.29
49 Sibirsky 4.23
50 The Knox Valley 4.18
50 Unolia 4.18
52 Sarzonia 4.17
53 Audioslavia 4.13
54 Nassau Hessen 4.01
55 German Shepherds 4.00
56 Konariona 3.87
57 Handrew 3.85
57 New Koln 3.85
57 Polar Islandstates 3.85
57 Zeneabo 3.85
61 Lisander 3.75
61 Lymantatia 3.75
61 Lzherusskia 3.75
61 New Tebow 3.75
65 Grandterre 3.57
66 The Kytler Peninsulae 3.33
66 Western Cuba 3.33
68 Thrilledge 3.31
69 Levivania 3.21
70 Yesopalitha 2.87
71 Subramani 2.75
72 Sjovenia 2.63
73 Emeralds United 2.60
73 Yttribia 2.60
75 Sicoutimont 2.56
76 Jeckland 2.50
76 Michael VII 2.50
76 Quakmybush 2.50
79 Callumackbar 1.97
80 Catholican Catholica 1.85
81 Cyborg Holland 1.79
82 Manchenana 1.76
83 Sasoon 1.75
83 Telsta 1.75
85 Carasatoga 1.67
86 Powersith 1.61
87 Backyard Sports 1.43
87 Bongo Johnson 1.43
89 Schmiegelland 1.25
89 Franklin Delano Bluth 1.25
89 Gloriax 1.25
89 Independent Digital Systems 1.25
89 Juan del Pastel 1.25
89 MoonBase Fourcannon 1.25
95 Democratic States of Fenbar 1.07
95 Slembana 1.07
97 Southwick 1.02
98 De La Fleur 0.92
98 Lunas Legion 0.92
98 The Wacha 0.92
101 Northton 0.89
101 Ironite 0.89
103 Alkoul 0.83
103 Ilnavires 0.83
103 Super Bwitain 0.83
106 The Sovan Antithesis 0.75
106 McKleigh 0.75
106 The Tidal Wake 0.75
106 Darvale 0.75
106 Zenic 0.75
106 Macquarrie 0.75
106 Alparia 0.75
106 Hamamatsu 0.75
106 Menukten 0.75
106 Kykid8 0.75
106 Icatus 0.75
117 Crysuko 0.71
118 Catonia Majora 0.54
118 Zeedoom 0.54
120 Firiminaz 0.36
120 Euskirribakondara 0.36
120 Kintratar 0.36
120 United Warrisons 0.36
120 Demonslove 0.36
120 Rodard 0.36
120 Quebecois Acadiana 0.36
120 The Babbage Islands 0.36
120 Zomni 0.36
129 German American States 0.18
130 Banthegia 0.00
130 Evangelical Islands of Altai 0.00
130 Gzbfernigambia 0.00
130 Kingdom of Costa Luna 0.00
130 Korena 0.00
130 Marcos Dynamite 0.00
130 Myeeria 0.00
130 Oralana 0.00


Me thinks something is off, I was #3 in the post rankings, but in this one I'm #2.


I think that's probably related to the removal of the remaining ranking points I received from the pre-WBXX BoI.
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Postby Equestrian States » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:57 pm

Saintland wrote:
German zerabithea wrote:Me thinks something is off, I was #3 in the post rankings, but in this one I'm #2.


I think that's probably related to the removal of the remaining ranking points I received from the pre-WBXX BoI.

That would be correct. It should also be noted that I only gave the 0.75 BoI points to those nations whose signups would have counted towards the 16 needed. Future signups that would have been eligible for the BoI will not receive the points as they would have missed signups for the event.
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Postby German Zerabithea » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:09 pm

Equestrian States wrote:
Saintland wrote:
I think that's probably related to the removal of the remaining ranking points I received from the pre-WBXX BoI.

That would be correct. It should also be noted that I only gave the 0.75 BoI points to those nations whose signups would have counted towards the 16 needed. Future signups that would have been eligible for the BoI will not receive the points as they would have missed signups for the event.


Ah ok

Thank you for clearing that up :lol:
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Estope wrote:As soon as the ranks are updated I will post the pots and make the group draws.

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1 Cassadaigua 23.04
2 German Zerabithea 21.37
3 Saintland 21.29
4 Qazox 21.00
5 Stretta 19.79
6 West Guiana (New West Guiana) 19.75
7 The Royal Kingdom of Quebec 18.88
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10 Ko-oren 18.04
11 Allamunnic States (The Fanboyists) 17.96
12 Karditan 17.08
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14 Taeshan 14.95
15 West Angola 14.93
16 Vettrera 12.04
17 Estope 10.75
18 Texacano 10.73
19 The Serbian Empire 10.44
20 Gaveo 9.50
21 Thatius 8.65
22 Cosumar 8.45
23 Gregoryisgodistan 8.41
24 The Sova Empire 7.26
25 Ati Kaluraya 7.23
26 The Fair Republic 7.03
27 San Jose Guayabal 6.85
28 New Wolfopolis 6.51
29 Shadowbourne 6.43
30 Lunar Republic Islands 6.15
31 Kinzar 5.89
32 Caek of the Wolfen 5.83
33 HopNation 5.75
34 Zhenovia 5.66
35 Anarchist States of America 5.54
36 Accaradola 5.45
37 Azurlavai 5.38
37 New North Aqmuland 5.38
39 Baughmerica 5.25
40 Chunnan 5.18
41 Free South Califas 5.12
42 Torisakia 5.00
43 Kriegiersien 4.58
44 Anditia 4.55
44 Super-Llamaland 4.55
46 Free Republics 4.42
47 The Glorious Commune 4.41
48 TheStonedSurfers 4.29
49 Sibirsky 4.23
50 The Knox Valley 4.18
50 Unolia 4.18
52 Sarzonia 4.17
53 Audioslavia 4.13
54 Nassau Hessen 4.01
55 German Shepherds 4.00
56 Konariona 3.87
57 Handrew 3.85
57 New Koln 3.85
57 Polar Islandstates 3.85
57 Zeneabo 3.85
61 Lisander 3.75
61 Lymantatia 3.75
61 Lzherusskia 3.75
61 New Tebow 3.75
65 Grandterre 3.57
66 The Kytler Peninsulae 3.33
66 Western Cuba 3.33
68 Thrilledge 3.31
69 Levivania 3.21
70 Yesopalitha 2.87
71 Subramani 2.75
72 Sjovenia 2.63
73 Emeralds United 2.60
73 Yttribia 2.60
75 Sicoutimont 2.56
76 Jeckland 2.50
76 Michael VII 2.50
76 Quakmybush 2.50
79 Callumackbar 1.97
80 Catholican Catholica 1.85
81 Cyborg Holland 1.79
82 Manchenana 1.76
83 Sasoon 1.75
83 Telsta 1.75
85 Carasatoga 1.67
86 Powersith 1.61
87 Backyard Sports 1.43
87 Bongo Johnson 1.43
89 Schmiegelland 1.25
89 Franklin Delano Bluth 1.25
89 Gloriax 1.25
89 Independent Digital Systems 1.25
89 Juan del Pastel 1.25
89 MoonBase Fourcannon 1.25
95 Democratic States of Fenbar 1.07
95 Slembana 1.07
97 Southwick 1.02
98 De La Fleur 0.92
98 Lunas Legion 0.92
98 The Wacha 0.92
101 Northton 0.89
101 Ironite 0.89
103 Alkoul 0.83
103 Ilnavires 0.83
103 Super Bwitain 0.83
106 The Sovan Antithesis 0.75
106 McKleigh 0.75
106 The Tidal Wake 0.75
106 Darvale 0.75
106 Zenic 0.75
106 Macquarrie 0.75
106 Alparia 0.75
106 Hamamatsu 0.75
106 Menukten 0.75
106 Kykid8 0.75
106 Icatus 0.75
117 Crysuko 0.71
118 Catonia Majora 0.54
118 Zeedoom 0.54
120 Firiminaz 0.36
120 Euskirribakondara 0.36
120 Kintratar 0.36
120 United Warrisons 0.36
120 Demonslove 0.36
120 Rodard 0.36
120 Quebecois Acadiana 0.36
120 The Babbage Islands 0.36
120 Zomni 0.36
129 German American States 0.18
130 Banthegia 0.00
130 Evangelical Islands of Altai 0.00
130 Gzbfernigambia 0.00
130 Kingdom of Costa Luna 0.00
130 Korena 0.00
130 Marcos Dynamite 0.00
130 Myeeria 0.00
130 Oralana 0.00

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I just noticed that it appears that Unolia was drawn based upon the other Unolia's ranking rather than with the ranking of New West Guiana.

Once I noticed this, I figured it needed to be brought up, but I'm personally not in favor of a redraw (and if a redraw is not done, "Unolia" should not be allowed to use West Guiana's ranking, as it would be unfair to the rest of Group A to have a pot 4 team with a pot 1 ranking). The confusion here was caused by West Guiana's decision to change his nation name to the established IC name of the Jahistic Unified Republic, in the middle of a World Bowl where JUR was using the name Unolia, so I definitely wouldn't blame this oversight on the host, given how unusual the situation is.
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San Jose Guayabal wrote:Group G
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Postby Unolia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:25 pm

Saintland wrote:I just noticed that it appears that Unolia was drawn based upon the other Unolia's ranking rather than with the ranking of New West Guiana.

Once I noticed this, I figured it needed to be brought up, but I'm personally not in favor of a redraw (and if a redraw is not done, "Unolia" should not be allowed to use West Guiana's ranking, as it would be unfair to the rest of Group A to have a pot 4 team with a pot 1 ranking). The confusion here was caused by West Guiana's decision to change his nation name to the established IC name of the Jahistic Unified Republic, in the middle of a World Bowl where JUR was using the name Unolia, so I definitely wouldn't blame this oversight on the host, given how unusual the situation is.

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Postby Vettrera » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:40 pm

Unolia wrote:
Saintland wrote:I just noticed that it appears that Unolia was drawn based upon the other Unolia's ranking rather than with the ranking of New West Guiana.

Once I noticed this, I figured it needed to be brought up, but I'm personally not in favor of a redraw (and if a redraw is not done, "Unolia" should not be allowed to use West Guiana's ranking, as it would be unfair to the rest of Group A to have a pot 4 team with a pot 1 ranking). The confusion here was caused by West Guiana's decision to change his nation name to the established IC name of the Jahistic Unified Republic, in the middle of a World Bowl where JUR was using the name Unolia, so I definitely wouldn't blame this oversight on the host, given how unusual the situation is.

Unolia wrote:The successor to (New) West Guiana, the Unolian Kingdom enters.

When your nation name and what you typed is so similar, I don't think you should fault someone for thinking they were one in the same and you were just trying to be professional.
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Unolia wrote:
Unolia wrote:The successor to (New) West Guiana, the Unolian Kingdom enters.


You have to be a wee bit more specific than that when declaring "I want my IC name to be different from my nation name", man. Also, New West Guiana -> West Guiana made sense, but why this? 'Unolian Kingdom' isn't a taken name.

And why did JUR never take the 'Unolia' name, even if he wasn't planning to use the puppet? Weird.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:58 pm

Karditan wrote:
Unolia wrote:


You have to be a wee bit more specific than that when declaring "I want my IC name to be different from my nation name", man. Also, New West Guiana -> West Guiana made sense, but why this? 'Unolian Kingdom' isn't a taken name.

And why did JUR never take the 'Unolia' name, even if he wasn't planning to use the puppet? Weird.


Particularly since "Unolian Kingdom" could be interpreted to be the full name of your nation, as opposed to what it goes by regularly. For instance, my nation's official name is "The Glorious and Holy Nation of Gregoryisgodistan" and we'll occasionally use that name, but generally speaking it can be used interchangably with Gregoryisgodistan, and to use the long form in anything other than official communications would be unusual. Even in official communications it would be somewhat unusual.

On the other hand, it would be slightly less unusual in your case, since there's another Unolia IC-ly, just as the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Republic of Congo use their full names more often than most nations IRL, since there's two Congos.

Edit: I do favor a redraw, even if it means I'm not in SJG's group. Saintland is right that it wouldn't be fair for NWG to keep his rank when he was drawn as a Pot 4 team, but what's the alternative? Lose his rank? That's still not fair since then he should have been drawn as a Pot 5 or Pot 6 team, so the group is weaker than it should be. Or should he receive the other Unolia's rank? That makes absolutely no sense. I'd say do a redraw with Unolia getting NWG's rank, and adjusting the pots slightly accordingly.

Edit 2: Alternatively, put Unolia in the group of whichever Pot 1 team would be demoted to Pot 2, put that team in the group of whichever Pot 2 team would be demoted to Pot 3, and so on. Whichever team was demoted from Pot 3 would take Unolia's spot. It avoids a full redraw while making the groups correct. Here's how it would look:

Unolia/NWG goes in Group C, replacing Allamunic States.
Allamunic States goes in Group D, replacing Ati Kaluraya
Ati Kaluraya goes in Group C, replacing Free Republics.
Free Republics goes in Group A, taking the spot vacated by NWG/Unolia.

All other groups stay the same.

So Group A would now be
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Osarius
The Fair Republic
Free Republics
Hamamatsu
Hutt River

Group C would be

NWG/Unolia
Taeshan
Ati Kaluraya
The Glorious Commune
Zenic
The Royal Barangay

and Group D would be

German Zerabithea
Allamunic States
Super-Llamaland
Levivania
The Tidal Wake
Mochria

The other groups would remain the same. That's easier than a full redraw and avoids having to do full RP revisions. I would support that rather than a full redraw.
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Postby Unolia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:17 pm

Karditan wrote:
Unolia wrote:


You have to be a wee bit more specific than that when declaring

And why did JUR never take the 'Unolia' name, even if he wasn't planning to use the puppet? Weird.

So whats the difference between UK and The Royal Kingdom of Quebec? I was specific when I said the Unoalian Kingdom enters, but if you're going to throw a hissy fit over this then I just withdraw.
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