Kalisight Treaty Organization (KTO) - Boardroom

[Neo-Western East Korea]

Toma Kuzmin, wearing a strangely melancholic grimace upon his face, stands to speak.

“Prince De Hulfe.

I must prelude my response to the message you have transmitted with Neo-Korea’s position on the issue, which is one of general disregard.

As such, I shall be voicing the opinions of the state over any I may possess on an individual level, and I wish to make this entirely eminent before I speak.”

He pauses for a moment, before finally continuing.

“The Neo-Korean State, while not disagreeing with another attempt at a diplomatic resolution, believes that this resolution must be handled by the Romantic Imperium and its allies and the PCCL outside of the umbrella of the Kalisight Treaty Organization.

The crux of the issue in this regard is the fact that, as far as the Neo-Korean State is concerned, this is a war between entirely separate groups who happen to possess members within the KTO, and not, as is seemingly expressed in the Princess-Regent’s letter, a KTO War.

The difference, of course, is in regards to Article I. “Intimes of an armed conflict, all member states are required to defend each other. An attack on one of the KTO states, is an attack against all of its members.”, which, as could be noted from more recent shared history, is the reason behind the lack of true escalation in a majority of recent conflicts.

The current situation does not have this article apply for the simple fact that the Romanic Imperium is not a full member, and those full members who are participating in some manner are performing an Offensive and not Defensive war.”

He takes a sip of water, before continuing onwards.

“With this established, the Neo-Korean State cannot agree with point 1 of the Princess-Regent’s letter, on the basis of the KTO not being an entity that, from the Neo-Korean perspective, should have any involvement of this war as a collective group.

While as an individual nation Neo-Korea would support both measures spoken of in the letter, it cannot agree to doing so as a collective body.”

He finishes, finally falling silent.

[Anagonia]

Ambassador Henry Strongman:

I concur with the votes in total, though I wonder...why wasn't a Janpian on the list?

He looks to Prince de Hulfe

I can state that at this point, the President is remaining silent. We exercise a...big stick policy when dealing with foreign engagements. Right now we're responding with a humanitarian fleet to monitor the situation and that is the extent of what we plan. However, if things escalate beyond reason, I feel the President will be in total agreement with your leadership.

[Sombreland]

Prince de Hulfe replied, "Yes, Representative Kuzmin, the letter clearly states that the KTO is not at war, and it clearly states that only particular member states are considering war. However, the Kingdom of Sombreland nevertheless asks those members, in this place, to declare whether or not they would support diplomatic effort to achieve their goals without war if it were possible."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Lopez: "In response to the letter, Gonswanza has considered diplomacy, in the past. In the Muqaddasian war, of course. That failed. If anything, the Imperium jumped on the offensive under Jaguar with intent to 'destroy the KTO' which failed miserably. Paired to aggressive expansion efforts, I and Gonswanza consider this a war to contain the Imperium. Diplomacy will fail as expected. But just to humor you, I suppose I can try to reason with them myself or poke the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to seek out a diplomatic solution. Not that it would work, especially given Atlanta's hostile attitude and past experience. But hey, anything to feed your sheltered monarch's inflated ego."

That said, she takes out her phone and taps away, scoffing at the idea. She refused to just fall over for him, much less care for the others, viewing them all as either equals or children, notably in the case of the fighting diplomats from Armenia and Romanic Imperium. Yet, at least she tried to keep some mild respect for them, even if she heavily disagreed with their leaders being shining examples of a perfect role model upon a golden pedestal. To her, the truest role model was Laura Ortiz, as she was the most human of them all.

[Sombreland]

Prince de Hulfe stood up, and said, "Madame: I object strongly to your language regarding our head of state. I would remind you that though she is young, she was, with the President of Anagonia, one of those who effected the peace treaty in Gyzantia. It was her governance that made this possible. It is not appropriate to attack the reputation of a member state's head of state!"

He took several deep breaths, drank from a glass of water, Then he coughed into a handkerchief and drank from his water glass again, motioning to an aide to refill it. Then he said, "I think that this should not be done in random manner. Diplomatic effort, I propose, should bee undertaken collaboratively."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Lopez: "I refuse to kneel before your backwards princess, who calls herself such despite being a despotic queen who treats herself as a living god and views herself in the same light. I suggest instead we all take our own chances with Jaguar and attempt to approach him individually, even as a collective, to contain his greed. Of course, I'll laugh as his guards cut down our diplomats, slaughtering them like the pigs he views them as. That, or he will just humor them by pretending to agree before striking out and violating the very agreement that was taken up, forcing those involved to go to war. Given his irrationality as a "demigod" and him parading around in ancient armor, it's almost expected for diplomacy to fail with an irrational actor who is clearly not mentally fit for rule being the one to accept our demands. Assuming, of course, they don't try to force their own demands upon us much like a certain failed state in the Gyzantian talks. Shame they imploded shortly after that, though. But it was almost expected."

[Sombreland]

"There is a range of behaviour between being insulting and adulation," said Prince de Hulfe coldly. "There is simple respect. I have not, and none of my countrymen heave insulted your head of state. Kindly have the grace not to insult mine. I demand an apology now. All you have to do, Representative, is simply refer to my head of state as "Princess-Regent Alavaine" or "The Regent" or even "Your head of state". Anything less will be completely unacceptable."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Lopez: "And I will kindly refuse and ask that you suck it up and deal with it. Simple as. Now can we get back to the topic of failed diplomacy, or has such a topic been shoved aside out of sheer boredom? I do wonder. But speaking of that..."

There's a few more taps on her phone, before she slides it under her cloak.

"... Laura Ortiz has agreed to send for a representative to try to deal with the Roman Imperium themselves, with a few demands. One of which would be surrendering Spain and Portugal to a local leader, along with surrendering Gibraltar and Ceuta to Gonswanza to ensure that the strait does not fall under their control, much less anyone's control, and remains open to international shipping given a few incidents in the past where the Romanic Imperium blockaded the strait for a few weeks. In those weeks international shipping was harassed by the Romanic navy, though their coverage of the strait was so poor that some craft slipped through anyways, while a FONOP conducted there almost caused an international incident with a very short crisis in the strait itself. All this, for the sake of "security" as claimed by Jaguar himself."

Lopez practically scoffs at the idea of a blockade being made for security when there were far better ways of improving one's security far closer to home.

"In all reality that's just an excuse to hide his demands for power, denying shipping even if his navy was in far worse shape than the rest of the world's naval capabilities. Not that they have caught up at all, with their newest carriers looking more akin to tables made from muskets. Now, please excuse me, as I have a few calls to make with Gonswanza, just to catch up on a few things."

And with that said, she steps away from her space, walks over to the door, and soon walks out to do just that.

[Sombreland]

Prince de Hulfe stood up, and said, "Clearly, this is a place where one's leaders can simply be insulted casually. I will not tolerate this attack on my leader. I do not expect that you will understand this,Representative Ortiz, but if basic respect does not exist between members here, there cannot be any point to this alliance. We cannot expect basic respect and fairness." With that, he walked out the room and shut the door behind him.

[Kingdom Of The UN]

"Now is the time I believe we must get more involved."

Before walking in he sees both representatives from different nations walk out. He then excuses himself. He walks in dressed in a formal outfit, a briefcase in hand. He then clears his throat before speaking.

Istivan: "It would seem that something had not gone as planned huh? Apologies I forgot to introduce myself. I am Istivan Czapla, the 8th Szpada of the Szpada Council. I have been assigned by the Marshall himself to represent the nation in the boardroom. It has come to a point where he believes that the KUN needs to strengthen ties even more between the alliance and get more involved. That all said I hope we can work together to create a better future for our nations and KTO."

Istivan thinks to himself about what Sawa would do in the scenario, seeing that Sawa has a lot more experience being a representative than he has been.

[Sombreland]

When Prince de Hulfe returned to the boardroom, he spoke rather formally. "My head of state has just been insulted, twice. Now to some, this may seem to be something to take in stride. After all, they are just words, right? But I say that they are not. If a person can speak to you with contempt, and expects to get away with it, there are a couple of things that that means.

"First, it means that they don't respect you. In a sense, that is fair enough, but then...my government cannot trust Gonswanza, or its leadership, to be decent allies, for they clearly hold our country's leadership and its people in contempt. Furthermore, if governments and representatives are tolerant of this, then they tolerate the same contempt and there is no guarantee that this alliance would ever help my nation in need. Because either words mean something, or they do not. A government, and a collection of governments, cannot say that they mean to be firm allies on the one hand and give contempt on the other.

"A great deal of trust is being asked of the signatories to this convention. We are, as it were, being asked to be like comrades in arms in a war. However, we are not common soldiers. We do not have the benefit of superior officers or non commissioned officers keeping things in order while we sort out our quarrels. Instead, we represent those who have responsibility for everything. Every article in the agreement to form this alliance upholds the idea that while we may disagree with one another, while we may have serious differences from one another, that we put those differences aside and work together. A fundamental part of working together is mutual respect. Even if it is not perfectly felt, it must be demonstrated.

"So let me be very clear: I insist on an apology for blatant insults towards my head of state. If they are not forthcoming, my government will not be tolerant. We will be required to leave this alliance due to a gesture of enmity from one nation's representative: Gonswanza. And if we are urged to tolerate that, that means that the governments insisting on such tolerance also see our country's leaders as not being worth insisting on respect for. Thank you."

[CONGOlese republic]

Mbala Ditu, a prestigious representative from Congo arrived at the Boardroom of the Kalisight Treaty Organization, which wasn't introduced much before. He was tensed.

Hello, may I know what is the current issue being discussed, if you guys don't mind, why have I heard the news of representatives coming here and dying within a very short time? You don't have to answer if you don't wish to. Also, where should I sit? I don't really know Western Culture. I'm the Congolese Representative if you are questioning.

[Livonian Social Democratic Republic]

Ludomił Kurzawa would tap his microphone twice, "Ahem, I wish to raise the concern of the Livonian Government at the illegitimate treaty that has resulted in the occupation of Port Arthur Radar Station and Juazap!. We have been forced to give up land for internal affairs that should have STAYED internal! South Olpen has acted under the guise of "Humanitarianism" when they really are only conducting the acts of Neo-Colonialism to affirm their unjust actions! Members of the board, I must IMPLORE you, to think carefully about your allegiance in this situation! THIS CHICANERY HAS GONE ON FAR TOO LONG!" Ludomił Kurzawa would then take his seat seemingly calming down, "I'm sorry, I lost my temper there, I'll try to calm down."

[Janpia]

Rep. Remunev:"I believe this must be responded by the representative of South Olpen. As the Party sees it, the presence of Olpenese troops at Port Arthur and Juazapo is an act of occupation in and of itself, which violates Article II of the KTO charter; additionally, humanitarian missions are required to follow Resolution 5, which the Olpenese have failed to meet. Reports also state that they have brought in weapons, an act which can already be deemed questionable. If any, the course of action to take is to remove the Olpenese presence completely from the state of Livonia. As I myself, support self-sovereignty of its member-states."

[South Olpen]

Rep. Remunev:"I believe this must be responded by the representative of South Olpen. As the Party sees it, the presence of Olpenese troops at Port Arthur and Juazapo is an act of occupation in and of itself, which violates Article II of the KTO charter; additionally, humanitarian missions are required to follow Resolution 5, which the Olpenese have failed to meet. Reports also state that they have brought in weapons, an act which can already be deemed questionable. If any, the course of action to take is to remove the Olpenese presence completely from the state of Livonia. As I myself, support self-sovereignty of its member-states."

"Mr. Representative, the Port Arthur Radar Station and the Port of Juazapo were willingly ceded. An Olpenese presence was required to fufill Article VIII, ensuring security for the sexual minorities of Livonia. If a majority of this body decides that peace, security, and democracy are not priorities of this alliance, and that there need be no protection for the minorities of KTO memberstates, then Olpenese forces will willingly leave both islands. I motion for a vote to order Olpenese forces off Juazapo and Port Arthur, as well as the nullification of Article VIII."

[Anagonia]

Ambassador Henry Strongman:

The Confederate States offers to act as intermediary in the dispute between South Olpen and Livonia. Confederate forces are already on the ground providing Humanitarian and Peacekeeping aid as required by KTO Resolution #5: KTO Humanitarian Assistance Act and KTO Resolution #7: KTO Foodbank Organization Act, both of which require us to distribute goods and humanitarian assistance where requested. Additionally our Confederate forces are in full compliance with Article One, Article Three, Article Six, and Article Eight of the KTO Treaty. We are fully ready and capable to maintain a presence in Livonia to provide a amicable resolution to this security dispute.

Concerning the wording of Article Eight, I agree it could use clarification as it does feel outdated.

He cleared his throat, looking something up in his folder before grabbing a piece of paper. He briefly examined it, returning it into the folder

Article Eight of the KTO Treaty states that, The goal of the KTO is to aid in democracy, peace, and security. As such, the alliance's ideology should be focused on fighting against those who stood against it. I feel this is an outdated outlook for the KTO especially considering that the majority of the leadership is either communist or socialist in some manner. Instead, I believe we should reword Article Eight to be more amicable.

Perhaps it should be reworded to, The Goal of the KTO is to aid in efforts of peacekeeping, security, and humanitarian operations across the world. All Sovereign Member-Nations should be in compliance with this ideology to support peaceful diplomatic discussions, aid in crisis events and humanitarian operations as either intermediary or security provider , and provide security to fellow Sovereign Member-Nations in the events of internal strife or disputes as an independent peacekeeping force.

That's just a proposal of course. I strongly feel that it would need to be reworded to be more effective, but I do agree that Article Eight needs to be rewritten.

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Lopez walks back in, flicking a cigarette butt into a trashbin as she looks around, pushing her shades back up into her face. For only a moment, one could see her tanned skin, but it was still obscured by the shadow of her cloak. Alas, she missed most of the conversation, only catching on to the last bits of Strongman's little bit of dialog, as she raised a hidden eyebrow, whistling, almost.

Rep. Lopez: "So, I'm guessing that we re-write Article VIII? Look, democracy is democracy. A communist government is as much a democracy as a republic. The only differences are that one is more direct than the other and one relies on state planning. Regardless, there's no blatant need to rewrite the article."

She checks her phone, before going off once again-

"-As for world news, do you find it funny that South Oplen is back at it again with their imperialist demands? Especially as Livonia threatens to implode with a comically ineffective campaign against insurgents, now being turned against those the state deems homosexual? It's almost entertaining; a poetic, amusing assisted suicide of a failed state. I suppose the Livonian military is hoping to draw the humanitarians into this mess just to further an insurgency against them, even though everyone's already back to square one in this pointless operation. Fools. No wonder South Oplen wants to take advantage of the situation with an illegal occupation."

[South Olpen]

Rep. Lopez walks back in, flicking a cigarette butt into a trashbin as she looks around, pushing her shades back up into her face. For only a moment, one could see her tanned skin, but it was still obscured by the shadow of her cloak. Alas, she missed most of the conversation, only catching on to the last bits of Strongman's little bit of dialog, as she raised a hidden eyebrow, whistling, almost.

Rep. Lopez: "So, I'm guessing that we re-write Article VIII? Look, democracy is democracy. A communist government is as much a democracy as a republic. The only differences are that one is more direct than the other and one relies on state planning. Regardless, there's no blatant need to rewrite the article."

She checks her phone, before going off once again-

"-As for world news, do you find it funny that South Oplen is back at it again with their imperialist demands? Especially as Livonia threatens to implode with a comically ineffective campaign against insurgents, now being turned against those the state deems homosexual? It's almost entertaining; a poetic, amusing assisted suicide of a failed state. I suppose the Livonian military is hoping to draw the humanitarians into this mess just to further an insurgency against them, even though everyone's already back to square one in this pointless operation. Fools. No wonder South Oplen wants to take advantage of the situation with an illegal occupation."

"If the consensus seems to be that, indeed, Article VIII is still relevant to this august orginization, then I propose that the memberstates of the KTO investigate fellow members on whether or not they are in compliance with the Article, immediately expelling member states that are found not to be democratic. I will of course wait until an official vote can be held on my first proposal before I submit this to the Chairman."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Lopez: "A typical yet expected answer from the one whose country regularly violates the sovereignty of other countries on a daily basis. The KTO lacks the resources to chase after an investigation of democracy, and doing such would violate said sovereignty of member states. If anything, it could even be open to corruption, allowing the investigators to plant evidence in support of a straight ejection from KTO without any difficulty. Not only that, but what you are suggesting is also extremely subjective. What I'd call a democracy, for example, you'd call something else entirely. So who's to say that we can even judge correctly? You have the ravings of a dictator, but perhaps you should just head home instead."

[South Olpen]

Rep. Lopez: "A typical yet expected answer from the one whose country regularly violates the sovereignty of other countries on a daily basis. The KTO lacks the resources to chase after an investigation of democracy, and doing such would violate said sovereignty of member states. If anything, it could even be open to corruption, allowing the investigators to plant evidence in support of a straight ejection from KTO without any difficulty. Not only that, but what you are suggesting is also extremely subjective. What I'd call a democracy, for example, you'd call something else entirely. So who's to say that we can even judge correctly? You have the ravings of a dictator, but perhaps you should just head home instead."

"Do we, however? Seeing as how 2% of our nations GDPs are spent on defense, I believe it would not be difficult to allocate even a thousandth of that towards the KTO to conduct an investigation. I also believe that, should an investigation take place, it would be nye impossible to 'plant' evidence, seeing as how the investigation would cover items before this was even proposed, and seeing as how there is no way to 'plant' a dictatorship. However, to soothe your concerns, each nation could supervise another with their burea of investigation or intelligence agency. Additrionally, claiming that 'democracy' is subjective is pedantic, seeing as just now you said 'Look, democracy is democracy.'"

[Countesia]

Rep. Hemsworth:

"I think a better solution to this problem would be to address the very core of the issue. It is no secret that Livonia is a financially struggling nation as a consequence of its former soviet past. They have struggled greatly to transition from a state planned economy to a market based one, and severely lags behind most of the KTO terms of national development. I believe this "Homosexual insurgency" is nothing more than a ruse for the Livonian government to distract the people from their poverty. Its an accusation that I don't want to make, but it's plain to see. This issue will never resolve itself unless Livonia undergoes some drastic economic growth."

[Gonswanza]

Rep. Hemsworth:

"I think a better solution to this problem would be to address the very core of the issue. It is no secret that Livonia is a financially struggling nation as a consequence of its former soviet past. They have struggled greatly to transition from a state planned economy to a market based one, and severely lags behind most of the KTO terms of national development. I believe this "Homosexual insurgency" is nothing more than a ruse for the Livonian government to distract the people from their poverty. Its an accusation that I don't want to make, but it's plain to see. This issue will never resolve itself unless Livonia undergoes some drastic economic growth."

Rep. Lopez: "If anything, they are following in the steps of a certain dictator that South Oplen has practically fetishized. Alas, they are already on a downward spiral and well beyond the point of no return. Combine that to the occupation, it's doomed. The best we can hope for is gathering refugees and possibly aiding in the restoration and rebuilding in the wake of a near-total collapse of government. Yet, we can still make demands for South Oplen to be ejected from Livonian soil, before they try to meddle in other affairs and attempt the same against other KTO members who may be less well off. Especially future members."

[South Olpen]

Rep. Hemsworth:

"I think a better solution to this problem would be to address the very core of the issue. It is no secret that Livonia is a financially struggling nation as a consequence of its former soviet past. They have struggled greatly to transition from a state planned economy to a market based one, and severely lags behind most of the KTO terms of national development. I believe this "Homosexual insurgency" is nothing more than a ruse for the Livonian government to distract the people from their poverty. Its an accusation that I don't want to make, but it's plain to see. This issue will never resolve itself unless Livonia undergoes some drastic economic growth."

Rep. Lopez: "If anything, they are following in the steps of a certain dictator that South Oplen has practically fetishized. Alas, they are already on a downward spiral and well beyond the point of no return. Combine that to the occupation, it's doomed. The best we can hope for is gathering refugees and possibly aiding in the restoration and rebuilding in the wake of a near-total collapse of government. Yet, we can still make demands for South Oplen to be ejected from Livonian soil, before they try to meddle in other affairs and attempt the same against other KTO members who may be less well off. Especially future members."

"I myself have just recently offered that the KTO move forward in a unified manner, by both revoking Article VIII and revoking the Olpenese territory that was willingly ceded by Livonia to enforce the article. Indeed, I ask for a second on this vote."

[Janpia]

Rep. Remunev:"Then what would be written as a replacement for Article VIII? As stated by Ambassador Henry, he did recommend a new change to the article, rephrasing the KTO's focus on security, peacekeeping, and humanitarian missions. Though given that there are a few non-democratic states within the ranks of the KTO, I'd say that is a perfect switch. Though on to the Livonian question, I suggest we lend economic aid into the state as indicated in Article VII, under regulations and on agreeable terms as stated in Article III."

[South Olpen]

Rep. Remunev:"Then what would be written as a replacement for Article VIII? As stated by Ambassador Henry, he did recommend a new change to the article, rephrasing the KTO's focus on security, peacekeeping, and humanitarian missions. Though given that there are a few non-democratic states within the ranks of the KTO, I'd say that is a perfect switch. Though on to the Livonian question, I suggest we lend economic aid into the state as indicated in Article VII, under regulations and on agreeable terms as stated in Article III."

Mr. Ambassador, Benjamin T. Gagnier

"I would not be opposed to Ambassador Henry's change, though I believe if the KTO were to be honest with itself, the change would instead be creating a new article and abolishing Article VIII, additionally, Olpen is happy to give aid to the fellow KTO memberstate of Livonia."