Omnibellum [P/MT|Open|Planning/OOC|ATTN ALL]

[Nova Sylva]

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

[The United Remnants of America]

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

We find a truce?

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I don't mind coming under attack, but it really wouldn't make much sense at least in my mind.

You're a brutal, genocidal, slaver theocracy with a literal messianic cult of personality built around the twit in charge.

That is to NS'ers as catnip is to cats.

Ralk, you've got another quote for your sig/quote thread.

[Nova Sylva]

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

We find a truce?

What do you mean "find a truce?"

[The Nuclear Fist]

You're a brutal, genocidal, slaver theocracy with a literal messianic cult of personality built around the twit in charge.

That is to NS'ers as catnip is to cats.

Ralk, you've got another quote for your sig/quote thread.

"Ulysses, you ruggedly handsome stallion of a man," you might say, "why you're both eloquent and capable of backhandedly complimenting others. How do you do it?"

And I would answer that it is just something you or rather I, was born with.

'Born' being synonymous with 'ceaselessly pounded into my head via a series of revolutionary self-performed brain surgeries done entirely with my own endowment' in this case.

[The Macabees]

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

Omnibellum doesn't rely on Ald. He only had a very minor facet of the storyline figured out anyways -- the catalyst of a war between GD and Gholgoth. Non-members of those regions are going to have to figure out their own storylines with or without Ald.

[The Macabees]

It bears reminding that the original intent behind Omnibellum was to have multiple threads under the same story arch, not to have one big thread where everyone is involved. A lot of it was left ambiguous on purpose, to allow individual players some leeway in determining their participation.

[Marquesan]

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

Omnibellum doesn't rely on Ald. He only had a very minor facet of the storyline figured out anyways -- the catalyst of a war between GD and Gholgoth. Non-members of those regions are going to have to figure out their own storylines with or without Ald.

If that is the consensus, then Raven Approach is officially stillborn and I will withdraw from Omnibellum. I have no presence in either region and no great desire to involve myself in either region. We have no reason to believe Aldarminia will return to Nationstates in any kind of time to deal with Omnibellum, so there is essentially no Sondria facet to the greater story. That being the case, I withdraw.

[Nova Sylva]

I may end up attempting to revamp Omnibellum in its entirety, with a new thread and everything. Of course, this would happen maybe next year, when were sure this is dead.

[Finium]

I may end up attempting to revamp Omnibellum in its entirety, with a new thread and everything. Of course, this would happen maybe next year, when were sure this is dead.

In that case, let's make this a prologue; a couple of diplomatic skirmishes and covert ops in a minor nation that sets the stage. It would allow it to be more organic.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

I don't mind coming under attack, but it really wouldn't make much sense at least in my mind.

You're a brutal, genocidal, slaver theocracy with a literal messianic cult of personality built around the twit in charge.

That is to NS'ers as catnip is to cats.

Oh yeah I forgot that.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

OK, if it means omnibellum can actually happen, allow me to raise a hand for the offer of 'guy to be invaded and make (reasonably dignified of course) plee for help.' My only issue is that it needs to result in Einsatz getting involved, rather than simply Marquesan getting bigger.

[Nova Sylva]

I may end up attempting to revamp Omnibellum in its entirety, with a new thread and everything. Of course, this would happen maybe next year, when were sure this is dead.

In that case, let's make this a prologue; a couple of diplomatic skirmishes and covert ops in a minor nation that sets the stage. It would allow it to be more organic.

I'm game; although for reference I'll probably start a new thread for it, so that we can update a list of participant nations, regions, link threads, etc, etc.

[Tiami]

Important:

When any Omnibellum participant is active on NS consistently throughout the day, I implore that these participants log onto the #Omnibellum IRC on your dedicated IRC. If a participant does not have a dedicated IRC, use this link. In order to organize and efficiently carry out all aspects of the RP, then we all need to be able to discuss in real-time about each ongoing topic. Structure is essential. And structure is something we seem to be lacking.

If a player cannot make it to an important #omnibellum IRC discussion, then someone needs to log the conversation (use Pastebin.com) and then post it on the main thread (this thread). Keeping everyone up-to-date is imperative to the efficiency of the thread.

And TGVH, as we are aware of your need for a screen-reader, if you want, I can sum everything up for you.

I think it's time we stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

If Ald never comes back, what's to be of Omnibellum?

When a Gothic nation does CTE, they do come back relatively quick. It's happened repeatedly over the years (as I can attest to it). Nova Sylva, Aldar will be back, but I cannot say when.

I have already stated my position, but it bears repeating. I am inclined to wait.

In response to the concerns about Aldar's extended absence, and the resulting delay in application evaluation, I would suggest that the more established roleplayers involved in Omnibellum (Mac, Tiami, Lamoni, etc.) discuss and implement a solution. Possibly nominate a temporary evaluator, depending on the decision. Debate over IRC may be best regarding this topic, to avoid sidetracking the thread.

I will be in close touch with Mac and Lamoni then. It'd probably help to bring in others like Marquesan too so long as he withdraws his withdrawal. It would be great to have his expertise.

In that case, let's make this a prologue; a couple of diplomatic skirmishes and covert ops in a minor nation that sets the stage. It would allow it to be more organic.

I'm game; although for reference I'll probably start a new thread for it, so that we can update a list of participant nations, regions, link threads, etc, etc.

Given that we do not know when Aldar will be back, I think it's best we lay off the creation of a thread for another week. Also, I am more than willing to take up OP duties should the need arise, or someone else can do it.

Omnibellum doesn't rely on Ald. He only had a very minor facet of the storyline figured out anyways -- the catalyst of a war between GD and Gholgoth. Non-members of those regions are going to have to figure out their own storylines with or without Ald.

If that is the consensus, then Raven Approach is officially stillborn and I will withdraw from Omnibellum. I have no presence in either region and no great desire to involve myself in either region. We have no reason to believe Aldarminia will return to Nationstates in any kind of time to deal with Omnibellum, so there is essentially no Sondria facet to the greater story. That being the case, I withdraw.

I will respect your wishes to leave; however, I implore you to rethink the decision. As with most Gothic nations (and a lot of players in general), we suffer from RL circumstances that hinder our ability to play NS and consistently participate in RPs despite our obvious intentions to do the best we can. Aldar will be back, but I cannot say when. If there can be an alternative, I can talk to a few other Gothic players and see what they would have to say about taking Aldar's place in Raven's Approach. I personally believe a Sondrian theater would be the most entertaining front given given the characters present in the region.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I don't suppose you could change it all over to chatsy?

[Tiami]

I don't suppose you could change it all over to chatsy?

Is it the only one you're able to use?

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I don't suppose you could change it all over to chatsy?

Is it the only one you're able to use?

Without seriously quick key presses which can make me miss a lot.

[The State of Monavia]

I left this thread alone for almost two weeks and return to find it a madhouse. Well, I suppose it is now time to impose some additional order for the sake of sanity. Let’s look at these threads one by one:

Expeditionary Procedures

This thread is about the Aldarminian invasion of the United World Order. While it is often commonplace for invaders to make the opening post, there is no rule in NS requiring that attackers make the opening move of the story. It is perfectly possible for the UWO to begin this thread by writing one or more posts in which the difficult legwork of “setting the stage” can be performed, such as taking some time to describe life for Ordernite citizens, introducing and developing new characters who can be used later, and developing story settings.

The Alexiandra Contingency

Much like the previous thread, this one revolves around an Aldarminian invasion. Again, there is nothing blocking Alexiandra from exercising his extensive talent for creativity and writing in the way I just described for the UWO. Since the plot of the thread is planned to include an allied defense of Alexiandra, it is perfectly possible for Alexiandra and his allies to begin the thread by roleplaying further developments in their alliances, trading technology and weapons, and the like. Again, setting the stage up front will save them a lot of detailed developmental writing (i.e. character introduction) later on.

The Raven Approach

While this thread is more or less dependent on Aldarminia’s participation because the plot consists of Sondrian nations reacting to what Aldarminia is doing in their region, the thread can still progress a bit without him. For one, some plot development related to the factors that will later motivate nations to side with Marquesan or Aldarminia is welcome.

Decadence and the Dymundhelm Summit

I cannot say much about this one. I suppose that some preliminary plot setup by the other participants may be possible. Kraven and Gratislavia can simply post the “preparations” that their characters make for dividing up the Union of Greater Hancock (e.g. drawing up invasion plans, reconnaissance, sending out spies, etc.)

Cosmopolitans and Conquerors

This thread needs Aldarminia’s presence to succeed. I recommend leaving it alone to focus on the others.

The Partition of Lostrovo and Zlavihryana

Ditto to the above.

Crossing the FJORD

Ditto to the above.

Endless Wartime

I will offer the same recommendation that I made for Alexiandra and the United World Order. Nothing is stopping the defenders from setting up the exposition phases of the story.

Wellovian War

Ditto to the above. Notice a pattern yet?

Terror Requires Will

This thread needs Aldarminia’s presence to succeed. I recommend leaving it alone to focus on the others.

A Draugr Walks

I cannot say much about this one. I suppose that some preliminary plot setup by the other participants (e.g. The Bane) may be possible.

The Lonely Position of Neutral

Havensky seems to have the lead-up to this thread in good order. As I have posted earlier, I am willing to play a role in this thread as well, depending on how the others go.

Having examined the entire list of planned threads, it appears that only four of the twelve listed on the opening post will require the other participants to take cues from Aldarminia or react to his postings in order to move forward beyond a starting point. The other eight threads, however, offer their participants some additional breathing room to take action now if they so choose.

[Marquesan]

Important:

If that is the consensus, then Raven Approach is officially stillborn and I will withdraw from Omnibellum. I have no presence in either region and no great desire to involve myself in either region. We have no reason to believe Aldarminia will return to Nationstates in any kind of time to deal with Omnibellum, so there is essentially no Sondria facet to the greater story. That being the case, I withdraw.

I will respect your wishes to leave; however, I implore you to rethink the decision. As with most Gothic nations (and a lot of players in general), we suffer from RL circumstances that hinder our ability to play NS and consistently participate in RPs despite our obvious intentions to do the best we can. Aldar will be back, but I cannot say when. If there can be an alternative, I can talk to a few other Gothic players and see what they would have to say about taking Aldar's place in Raven's Approach. I personally believe a Sondrian theater would be the most entertaining front given given the characters present in the region.

I'd be willing to remain involved if there was to be a change in the plan. My understanding from the post I referenced and therefore my reaction was that Omnibellum was going to be limited down to a Dienstad/Gholgoth war to make it practical. If there is to be a Sondria theater, count me in and I would like to be involved in the planning. If there is no Sondria theater, there is no reason for my involvement. As much as I would like to have an extraregionalal presence, I have neither the time nor the infrastructure developed to support such a model of The Marquesas. So my sphere of influence is limited to Sondria, at least on a governmental level.

[The Macabees]

I meant that one thread under the Omnibellum story arch would be dedicated to a war between the regions, but since Omnibellum is supposed to have multiple storylines (multiple threads) others could branch out from there. Someone could very well plan out a front with Sondria.

[Morrdh]

-snip-

Still doesn't address the issue what if Aldarminian doesn't return.

Without Aldar (or even a replacement) things are just going to stall.

EDIT: If any Gothic nation is interested I can up a thread today where a Gothic vessel gets sunk in Dienstadi waters in order to provide a spark for the war to begin.

[Lamoni]

Without Aldar (or even a replacement) things are just going to stall.

Marquesan, Lamoni, The Macabees, and Tiami are going to attempt to take control of the Omnibellum and until and unless Kraven and/or Aldarminia return. This way, we can hopefully keep the ball rolling in a positive direction.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

Is it not possible that Kraven could take Aldar's place? He is, after all, an entity dedecated to war.

[Lamoni]

Is it not possible that Kraven could take Aldar's place? He is, after all, an entity dedecated to war.

Kraven is moving, OOC, so he'll be busy for the time being.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I know. I'm sure we can wait if we know that our waiting will actually be rewarded.