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Postby Swith Witherward » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:22 am

Another open letter to Mall:

I owe you an apology. Earlier I chastised you in this very thread for posting a personal goal (that proposal) while wearing an official jacket. I then turned around and basically did the same thing in another thread (posting from a personal standpoint while wearing my official jacket). This is extremely unfair to you and it grieves me to realize my own hypocrisy and stupidity comes at the price of casting doubt upon your own reputation. What you did was make a proposal. What I did was make an ass of myself. Trust me on this one.

Your Moderation-ship has shown us a side of you that many didn't realize existed. They saw only "raider" rather than a person before appointment. I've come to respect your intelligence and sense of fair play via your decisions relating to mod reports. I wronged a person that I respect, and that doesn't sit well with me at all. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry.

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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:25 am

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Postby Bentus » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:31 am

I'd like to sign it, but I can't agree with the Mall should resign part of the letter :( It's not that I don't think he should, I have no opinion on the matter. I don't know the guy, and the proposal itself wasn't illegal - even if it should've been his actions weren't necessarily wrong.
Just thought I'd bring it up ;) Any chances there's a "I wish to sign but-not-too-bothered-with-Mall option?"
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:36 am

Swith Witherward wrote:Another open letter to Mall:

I owe you an apology. Earlier I chastised you in this very thread for posting a personal goal (that proposal) while wearing an official jacket. I then turned around and basically did the same thing in another thread (posting from a personal standpoint while wearing my official jacket). This is extremely unfair to you and it grieves me to realize my own hypocrisy and stupidity comes at the price of casting doubt upon your own reputation. What you did was make a proposal. What I did was make an ass of myself. Trust me on this one.

Your Moderation-ship has shown us a side of you that many didn't realize existed. They saw only "raider" rather than a person before appointment. I've come to respect your intelligence and sense of fair play via your decisions relating to mod reports. I wronged a person that I respect, and that doesn't sit well with me at all. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry.

Swith


We need more mentors and mods like you- people who are willing to apologise when they know they were in the wrong. Good job on that. :)
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:43 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Swith Witherward wrote:Another open letter to Mall:

I owe you an apology. Earlier I chastised you in this very thread for posting a personal goal (that proposal) while wearing an official jacket. I then turned around and basically did the same thing in another thread (posting from a personal standpoint while wearing my official jacket). This is extremely unfair to you and it grieves me to realize my own hypocrisy and stupidity comes at the price of casting doubt upon your own reputation. What you did was make a proposal. What I did was make an ass of myself. Trust me on this one.

Your Moderation-ship has shown us a side of you that many didn't realize existed. They saw only "raider" rather than a person before appointment. I've come to respect your intelligence and sense of fair play via your decisions relating to mod reports. I wronged a person that I respect, and that doesn't sit well with me at all. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry.

Swith


We need more mentors and mods like you- people who are willing to apologise when they know they were in the wrong. Good job on that. :)

Many of the mods and mentors too are already willing to do that - Scolo, for example, who reversed his warns and flag deletions, and apologised where possible.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:45 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
We need more mentors and mods like you- people who are willing to apologise when they know they were in the wrong. Good job on that. :)

Many of the mods and mentors too are already willing to do that - Scolo, for example, who reversed his warns and flag deletions, and apologised where possible.


That's good to know :)
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:15 am

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Postby Bunkeranlage » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:31 am

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:40 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:What do you guys think of this?

(Image)

Probably actionable, because now you're targeting someone.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:44 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:What do you guys think of this?

(Image)

Probably actionable, because now you're targeting someone.


Not exactly targeting him, since it's a popular internet meme that's been around for some time.
Removing it anyway, just to be safe.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:48 am

No line of logic could reasonably assert that that was not targeting him.
Unreachable.

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Postby Swith Witherward » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:49 am

Bezombia wrote:Swith Witherward for moderator!

No, please. I most likely don't have what it takes, and the current Mods do an excellent job. Thank you, however.
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Postby Lynion » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:59 am

I wish to sign this. Rper's should be allowed to use passwords if they don't want to be raided.


EDITED: And anyone else who doesn't want to play raid and defending game.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:03 am

Lynion wrote:I wish to sign this. Rper's should be allowed to use passwords if they don't want to be raided.

Not just RPers, but everyone who doesn't want to play R/D.
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Postby The Ancient World » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:09 am

I wish to sign.
Lynion wrote:I wish to sign this. Rper's should be allowed to use passwords if they don't want to be raided.

Exactly.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:11 am

So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?

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Postby Valentir » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:12 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?

Please, for the Love of Allah, do not start with conspiracy theories.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:15 am

Valentir wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?

Please, for the Love of Allah, do not start with conspiracy theories.

Strictly speaking, there probably doesn't have to have been an attack - service was denied for an extended period of time.
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Postby Aushanit » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:22 am

I wish to sign.

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Postby Phocidaea » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:28 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?

Was that it? A DOS?

Huh, I just thought it was my connection or a client error of some sort.
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Postby Tiami » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:29 am

Phocidaea wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?

Was that it? A DOS?

Huh, I just thought it was my connection or a client error of some sort.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303391
It was a Denial-of-Service attack. For future references, use the above link to post in regards of the recent DOS attack. Let's not stray from this thread's topic.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:31 am

Tiami wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:Was that it? A DOS?

Huh, I just thought it was my connection or a client error of some sort.

<span><a class="smarterwiki-linkify" href="http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303391">http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303391</a></span>
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:48 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?


There are four leading series:

1: It was an RPer who wanted to time out the proposal (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
2: It was a raider who wanted to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
3: It was a mod-induced "false flag" to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
4: It was a butthurt former player or extra-NS troll who decided that now was the best time to make everyone mad. (Likely)
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:00 am

Bezombia wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?


There are four leading series:

1: It was an RPer who wanted to time out the proposal (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
2: It was a raider who wanted to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
3: It was a mod-induced "false flag" to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
4: It was a butthurt former player or extra-NS troll who decided that now was the best time to make everyone mad. (Likely)


Really, I would 3 is more likely than any of them.

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Postby Tiami » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:03 am

Bezombia wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So does anyone know for certain what the DOS was about past night?


There are four leading series:

1: It was an RPer who wanted to time out the proposal (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
2: It was a raider who wanted to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
3: It was a mod-induced "false flag" to make it look like it was an RPer (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY)
4: It was a butthurt former player or extra-NS troll who decided that now was the best time to make everyone mad. (Likely)

Please, keep it out of this thread. Not even relevant. And besides, all four are unlikely. The attacker will never be known.
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