Tales of Two Horizons OOC-Open

[Yaana Noore]

Expanded on the military and infrastructure, with some other light additions. App here.

[Elepis]

Expanded on the military and infrastructure, with some other light additions. App here.

Yay

I meant to post today btw, but I got distracted. Anyway tomorrow I will get one up

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Expanded on the military and infrastructure, with some other light additions. App here.

Unless any of the co-ops raise any issues, Accepted

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Aw yis louisiane here I come

[Elepis]

I thought of a reason to invade Ethiopia, to cement my control over the Red Sea (or the Great Lake of Egypt)

Next post, meet with Persian guy, set up the United East Africa Company

[Reatra]

Why is the non-number map so small ew


And was my app accepted? I remember someone saying that the "modern" guns are okay because I paid for them and they won't be modern relatively soon due to technology.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Application

Name: Le Grand Royaume de Belgique. (The Grand Kingdom of Belgium.)
Symbols:

(Image)

(Image)

Claims: Belgium.
Power: Secondary Power currently.

Government Structure: Constitutional Monarchy. Each nobleman (maximum number allowed is 80.) in Belgium (not including the king) is in a council called the "Grote Raad.", or High Council. Each member of the council votes on a decision if the monarch is confused, unable to make a decision, or unable to make a decision due to medical reasons or if a monarch isn't coronated yet. If at least more than half the council votes one way, the voting is over. Of course, the monarch can however, overrule the decision at any time for any reason.
Ideology/Policy: Merchantilism.
Leaders: Leopold I, Grand Ruler of Belgium, Protector of Brussels, and Protector of the Belgan peoples.
Capital City: Brussels.

Population: 4,154,100.
Primary Ethnic Group: Dutch, French.
Minority Ethnic Groups: German.
Description of Ethnicity: The nation is technically Dutch.
Language: French.
Religion: Catholic Christianity.

Foreign Relations: Generally neutral or friendly, but despises France and the Netherlands.
Military Information: Mostly based off the Netherlands military, but general strategy is to use mass cavalry groups to break lines in the center of a group of enemy troops, and moving infantry to plug the gaps.
Army Size: 132,190.
Navy Size: 5 Frigates, 3 Galleons. The nation is 5 years old, so there isn't much of a navy yet.

Economic Policy: The policy is to direct as much trade as possible to England using various tactics.
Economic Situation: The nation doesn't have the best economy, but it is a rather industrialized nation. However, sea trade is a large part of the economy.
Infrastructure: Infrastructure is generally like that of Europe. However, the roads are cobbled unless the road goes through the most desolate areas.
Imports & Exports:
Imports: Silk, Spices, and various amounts of gold from Asia.
Exports: Grain, Wood, and (EDIT: Why did I put stone here? Why?) Fish..
Currency: Gini.

History: IRL history leading up to now, however, Belgium was freed about two months earlier than it was IRL, and rather than a constitutional monarchy, Leopold chose to let the nobles have a council to talk about issues.
Miscellaneous: We're going to basically push a claim on the Netherlands whenever possible, and if any small countries ripe for conquest (e.x. A small kingdom with a weak military with some small allies or none at all.) are available, we will conquer them. Ideally, we'd like to colonize much of the Pacific. IRL Belgium was only recognized in 1839, but in this history it was recognized a year after independence.
RP Example: Upcoming World.
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Belgium has it's French name as requested, am I accepted?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Application

Name: Oda Empire(Japan to most)
Symbols: Symbol
Flag
Claims: 64
Power: Regional Power

Government Structure: A centralized meritocratic bureaucracy handles most of the internal daily dealings of the Empire. Power is invested in the Imperial Palace and the rights of the nobility is devolved from the Imperial Authority. The political, economic, and social authority of the Shogun has been subsumed by the powers of the Emperor in the past few decades. At the same time, the Imperial Household and Shogun's Clan are nearly indistinguishable so this is more of a redistribution power within the same family, not a shift of power from one clan to another. There is Diet, which has only advisory powers and is composed of representatives from each Prefecture. Voting citizens are Christian, Male over the age of 17, and own land, a business, or have sufficient income. Prefectures retain nominal clan nobility but also have local Diets that have more power than the nobles. This balance allows the Emperor to have near absolute central power while keeping the nobles in check and the citizens pleased.
Ideology/Policy: The Imperial Palace has a clear goal in mind, the creation of a powerful Japanese State. The path to that goal is less clear. Currently, the Oda Imperial Palace is following two policies. One, advance Japanese power and influence in Asia while curtailing Chinese power and allying with the British. The second is advancing and modernizing the economy and society. Both have been the policy of the Oda Clan for the past decade.
Leaders: Shogun Oda Shinji, Emperor (Oda)(Yamato) Ninko
Capital City: Nagoya

Population: 35,030,502 in Japan + 3,000,000 in colonies
Primary Ethnic Group: Yamato
Minority Ethnic Groups: Ainu, Ryukkan, Aborigine, Bicolese
Description of Ethnicity: The Yamato are the dominant ethnicity of the Empire. They are mostly Japanese Catholic, and dominate the non-agrarian trades and the political system. The Yamato are the same as IRL save for religion
Language: Japanese
Religion: Japanese Catholicism, Shinto

Foreign Relations: Oda has full relations and an alliance with Britain, including embassies and a British Quarter in Nagasaki. Oda maintains relations with Song, Joseon, Nusantara, Iberia, and most of the Asian States.
Military Information: The Shogun is the commander of the Army of the Oda, though the Shogun is effectively appointed by the Emperor. The Emperor has direct control over the Palace Guard and the Navy. The navy is the pride and focus of the Empire, but the Army is by no means poor.
Army Size: 300,000 Soldiers are in the Army, 50,000 in the Expeditionary Forces, and 30,000 in the Colonial Milita
Navy Size: 110,000 sailors. I haven't worked out the number of ships but it is a relatively large and well equipped navy

Economic Policy: The Oda encourage manufacturing and desire foreign investment as well as domestic industry. There is a push to establish more colonies to fuel a larger economy to fuel a stronger empire to establish more colonies to fuel.......
Economic Situation: Booming. Trade with the British has brought industry and manufacture to the island starting in the 1790s. The Bicol Colonies have supplied an enormous surplus of food and minerals to the islands, causing a boom as people switched over to manufacturing. The Minami risōsu shūhen(PNG) supplies huge amounts of minerals. The economy, by workforce participation, is still mostly agricultural, but the colonies have spurred a manufacturing boom. Trade has flourished, and commerce has been supported by the Pacific Islands owned by Oda.
Infrastructure: Imperial Roads connect most major cities, canals cut across the land and ferries connect most islands. Government funded programs build new roads and bridges and dams in an effort to boost production and stave off unemployment.
Imports & Exports: Manufactured Goods, Resources|Pottery, Artisan Goods, Coffee, gold
Currency: Yen

History:
POD-Akechi Betrayal
1582: Oda Nobunaga survives assassination
1582-1612: Oda Unificaiton War. Ends with the death of the elderly Oda Nobunaga
1594: Oda adopts Christianity
1601: Oda Shogunate declared
1612: Oda Nobunato assumes the Shogunate
1615-1622: Second Oda War brings most of Homeland Japan under the Shogun's heel
1625: Trade Relations with the Iberians are normalized
1630-1655: Tokugawa Rebellion. Crushed in 1655 by the Shogun Oda Daikichi
1665: Trade Relation with Britain begin
1675: Great Kyoto Earthquake kills 10,000
1683-1701: Golden Era of Arts, Emperor Mtsuhide promotes Japanese Culture and Arts as the country increasingly embraces the West
1737: British Quarter in Nagasaki opened, Japanese Catholicism achieves plurality
1750: British trade supersedes Iberian Trade
1761: Oda colonizes several pacific islands
1769: Oda invades Bicol
1771: British trade supersedes Song trade
1790: Jade Emperor, with British supports, begins to reign in the Shogun
1801: Colonization of Minami risōsu shūhen(PNG)
1810: Start of the Akkiko Reformation
1818: Shogun is stripped of all but military power, the Shogun and Imperial Households are merged
1819: British-Oda Alliance formed
1825: Current Government formed

Miscellaneous:
RP Example: 1202/Vapor/FT-B/Clash of Clankers/NI/NI2/GOOF/GOOFII
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Reposting. Sen and I worked out the details. Song influenced until the mid-1700's when Iberia and Britain begin to take a larger role and solidly pro-British and Colonially Ambitious starting in the 1790's.

[Reatra]

Application

Name: Oda Empire(Japan to most)
Symbols: Symbol
Flag
Claims: 64
Power: Regional Power

Government Structure: A centralized meritocratic bureaucracy handles most of the internal daily dealings of the Empire. Power is invested in the Imperial Palace and the rights of the nobility is devolved from the Imperial Authority. The political, economic, and social authority of the Shogun has been subsumed by the powers of the Emperor in the past few decades. At the same time, the Imperial Household and Shogun's Clan are nearly indistinguishable so this is more of a redistribution power within the same family, not a shift of power from one clan to another. There is Diet, which has only advisory powers and is composed of representatives from each Prefecture. Voting citizens are Christian, Male over the age of 17, and own land, a business, or have sufficient income. Prefectures retain nominal clan nobility but also have local Diets that have more power than the nobles. This balance allows the Emperor to have near absolute central power while keeping the nobles in check and the citizens pleased.
Ideology/Policy: The Imperial Palace has a clear goal in mind, the creation of a powerful Japanese State. The path to that goal is less clear. Currently, the Oda Imperial Palace is following two policies. One, advance Japanese power and influence in Asia while curtailing Chinese power and allying with the British. The second is advancing and modernizing the economy and society. Both have been the policy of the Oda Clan for the past decade.
Leaders: Shogun Oda Shinji, Emperor (Oda)(Yamato) Ninko
Capital City: Nagoya

Population: 35,030,502 in Japan + 3,000,000 in colonies
Primary Ethnic Group: Yamato
Minority Ethnic Groups: Ainu, Ryukkan, Aborigine, Bicolese
Description of Ethnicity: The Yamato are the dominant ethnicity of the Empire. They are mostly Japanese Catholic, and dominate the non-agrarian trades and the political system. The Yamato are the same as IRL save for religion
Language: Japanese
Religion: Japanese Catholicism, Shinto

Foreign Relations: Oda has full relations and an alliance with Britain, including embassies and a British Quarter in Nagasaki. Oda maintains relations with Song, Joseon, Nusantara, Iberia, and most of the Asian States.
Military Information: The Shogun is the commander of the Army of the Oda, though the Shogun is effectively appointed by the Emperor. The Emperor has direct control over the Palace Guard and the Navy. The navy is the pride and focus of the Empire, but the Army is by no means poor.
Army Size: 300,000 Soldiers are in the Army, 50,000 in the Expeditionary Forces, and 30,000 in the Colonial Milita
Navy Size: 110,000 sailors. I haven't worked out the number of ships but it is a relatively large and well equipped navy

Economic Policy: The Oda encourage manufacturing and desire foreign investment as well as domestic industry. There is a push to establish more colonies to fuel a larger economy to fuel a stronger empire to establish more colonies to fuel.......
Economic Situation: Booming. Trade with the British has brought industry and manufacture to the island starting in the 1790s. The Bicol Colonies have supplied an enormous surplus of food and minerals to the islands, causing a boom as people switched over to manufacturing. The Minami risōsu shūhen(PNG) supplies huge amounts of minerals. The economy, by workforce participation, is still mostly agricultural, but the colonies have spurred a manufacturing boom. Trade has flourished, and commerce has been supported by the Pacific Islands owned by Oda.
Infrastructure: Imperial Roads connect most major cities, canals cut across the land and ferries connect most islands. Government funded programs build new roads and bridges and dams in an effort to boost production and stave off unemployment.
Imports & Exports: Manufactured Goods, Resources|Pottery, Artisan Goods, Coffee, gold
Currency: Yen

History:
POD-Akechi Betrayal
1582: Oda Nobunaga survives assassination
1582-1612: Oda Unificaiton War. Ends with the death of the elderly Oda Nobunaga
1594: Oda adopts Christianity
1601: Oda Shogunate declared
1612: Oda Nobunato assumes the Shogunate
1615-1622: Second Oda War brings most of Homeland Japan under the Shogun's heel
1625: Trade Relations with the Iberians are normalized
1630-1655: Tokugawa Rebellion. Crushed in 1655 by the Shogun Oda Daikichi
1665: Trade Relation with Britain begin
1675: Great Kyoto Earthquake kills 10,000
1683-1701: Golden Era of Arts, Emperor Mtsuhide promotes Japanese Culture and Arts as the country increasingly embraces the West
1737: British Quarter in Nagasaki opened, Japanese Catholicism achieves plurality
1750: British trade supersedes Iberian Trade
1761: Oda colonizes several pacific islands
1769: Oda invades Bicol
1771: British trade supersedes Song trade
1790: Jade Emperor, with British supports, begins to reign in the Shogun
1801: Colonization of Minami risōsu shūhen(PNG)
1810: Start of the Akkiko Reformation
1818: Shogun is stripped of all but military power, the Shogun and Imperial Households are merged
1819: British-Oda Alliance formed
1825: Current Government formed

Miscellaneous:
RP Example: 1202/Vapor/FT-B/Clash of Clankers/NI/NI2/GOOF/GOOFII
429

Reposting. Sen and I worked out the details. Song influenced until the mid-1700's when Iberia and Britain begin to take a larger role and solidly pro-British and Colonially Ambitious starting in the 1790's.

When did you change your signature to "infanticide" instead of "holocaust"?

[Senkaku]

France is looking good.

Why is the non-number map so small ew


And was my app accepted? I remember someone saying that the "modern" guns are okay because I paid for them and they won't be modern relatively soon due to technology.

Repost it in its new form, and I'll tell you.

solidly pro-British

This may be a major overstatement, but In and I have agreed on enough I think he can be accepted.

[Senkaku]

When did you change your signature to "infanticide" instead of "holocaust"?

We are not gonna touch that with an eleven foot pole, please go to General if you plan on discussing anything besides when he changed it.

[The Jonathanian States]

When did you change your signature to "infanticide" instead of "holocaust"?

We are not gonna touch that with an eleven foot pole, please go to General if you plan on discussing anything besides when he changed it.

When did he change it, actually? I didn't notice until now....

[Liecthenbourg]

We are not gonna touch that with an eleven foot pole, please go to General if you plan on discussing anything besides when he changed it.

When did he change it, actually? I didn't notice until now....

Eons ago.

Sen, what do you think of the Belgian app?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

We are not gonna touch that with an eleven foot pole, please go to General if you plan on discussing anything besides when he changed it.

When did he change it, actually? I didn't notice until now....

After our discussion on it.

So am I accepted?

[The Jonathanian States]

When did he change it, actually? I didn't notice until now....

After our discussion on it.

So am I accepted?

Really? Well I never noticed until now. I dare say I prefer it that way, so to an extent, thanks, I suppose.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Venice! then I can do something, with Epirus there is not much I could do. Would you even need help with that? Also, if Crete is conquered, could Heraklion be made a free port to Egyptian shipping?

On a different note, what would Egypt gain from conquering Ethiopia, apart from a sub-plot ?

Unlikely. Capturing Crete from Venice is the kinda goal that makes good propaganda and shit. That being said, don't we already have a FTA?

More landz.

You know you could just buy it right?

[Western Pacific Territories]

Application

Name: Le Grand Royaume de Belgique. (The Grand Kingdom of Belgium.)
Symbols:

(Image)

(Image)

Claims: Belgium.
Power: Secondary Power currently.

Government Structure: Constitutional Monarchy. Each nobleman (maximum number allowed is 80.) in Belgium (not including the king) is in a council called the "Grote Raad.", or High Council. Each member of the council votes on a decision if the monarch is confused, unable to make a decision, or unable to make a decision due to medical reasons or if a monarch isn't coronated yet. If at least more than half the council votes one way, the voting is over. Of course, the monarch can however, overrule the decision at any time for any reason.
Ideology/Policy: Merchantilism.
Leaders: Leopold I, Grand Ruler of Belgium, Protector of Brussels, and Protector of the Belgan peoples.
Capital City: Brussels.

Population: 4,154,100.
Primary Ethnic Group: Dutch, French.
Minority Ethnic Groups: German.
Description of Ethnicity: The nation is technically Dutch.
Language: French.
Religion: Catholic Christianity.

Foreign Relations: Generally neutral or friendly, but despises France and the Netherlands.
Military Information: Mostly based off the Netherlands military, but general strategy is to use mass cavalry groups to break lines in the center of a group of enemy troops, and moving infantry to plug the gaps.
Army Size: 132,190.
Navy Size: 5 Frigates, 3 Galleons. The nation is 5 years old, so there isn't much of a navy yet.

Economic Policy: The policy is to direct as much trade as possible to England using various tactics.
Economic Situation: The nation doesn't have the best economy, but it is a rather industrialized nation. However, sea trade is a large part of the economy.
Infrastructure: Infrastructure is generally like that of Europe. However, the roads are cobbled unless the road goes through the most desolate areas.
Imports & Exports:
Imports: Silk, Spices, and various amounts of gold from Asia.
Exports: Grain, Wood, and (EDIT: Why did I put stone here? Why?) Fish..
Currency: Gini.

History: IRL history leading up to now, however, Belgium was freed about two months earlier than it was IRL, and rather than a constitutional monarchy, Leopold chose to let the nobles have a council to talk about issues.
Miscellaneous: We're going to basically push a claim on the Netherlands whenever possible, and if any small countries ripe for conquest (e.x. A small kingdom with a weak military with some small allies or none at all.) are available, we will conquer them. Ideally, we'd like to colonize much of the Pacific. IRL Belgium was only recognized in 1839, but in this history it was recognized a year after independence.
RP Example: Upcoming World.
429

Belgium has it's French name as requested, am I accepted?

[Caltarania]

Unlikely. Capturing Crete from Venice is the kinda goal that makes good propaganda and shit. That being said, don't we already have a FTA?

More landz.

You know you could just buy it right?

I didn't presume that you're going to sell it, though a sale would also include the Ionians and the Aegean Islands, ofc.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

You know you could just buy it right?

I didn't presume that you're going to sell it, though a sale would also include the Ionians and the Aegean Islands, ofc.

If you're willing to give us special naval rights, a Naval Base in Rhodes, Free trade and a NAP sure.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Hi, is this open?

[Lunas Legion]

Hi, is this open?

Yes. I can TG you a partially completed Iberia app, since I won't be able to take it for quite a while, if you want?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Hi, is this open?

Yes. I can TG you a partially completed Iberia app, since I won't be able to take it for quite a while, if you want?

Sure. I will take a look at it and see if I can handle Spain

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Alright I've got a post up.

I think I hit all of the communiques I needed to, if I missed yours please tell me.

I will likely add more, need to discuss things with Yaama and likewise just think about what else I want to happen.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

So I broke my ankle. How's everyone elses day goin?

[Auchterland]

Tagging for interest. I'm thinking if there still is something worth it in Europe, and if not, probably South America. Suggestions, anyone?