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Sahrani DR
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Founded: Sep 06, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:30 am

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act - FOR
Vaccination Act - FOR
Compulsory Vaccinations Act - FOR
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Social Libertarian: -3.15





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Lamaredia
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:11 am

Official Vote Count

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act
Aye: 29 = 60.4%
Nay: 19 = 39.6%
Abstain:

Vaccination Act
Aye: 41 = 89.1%
Nay: 5 = 10.9%
Abstain: 1

Compulsory Vaccinations Act
Aye: 37 = 77%
Nay: 11 = 23%
Abstain: 1
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Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:57 am

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act: NAY
Vaccination Act: AYE
Compulsory Vaccinations Act: NAY
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Neo Rome Republic
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:59 am

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act: AYE
Vaccination Act: AYE
Compulsory Vaccinations Act: AYE
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The Union of the West
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Postby The Union of the West » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:37 pm

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act: NAY
Vaccination Act: AYE
Compulsory Vaccinations Act: NAY
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Macedonian Grand Empire
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:09 pm

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act: NAY
Vaccination Act: AYE
Compulsory Vaccinations Act: AYE
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Arkiasis
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Postby Arkiasis » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:44 pm

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act: AYE
Vaccination Act: AYE
Compulsory Vaccinations Act: AYE
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:06 am

Alcohol Act - NAY
Vaccination Act - AYE
Compulsory Vaccination Act - AYE
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Lamaredia
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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:30 pm

Official Final Vote Count

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) Act PASSED
Aye: 32 = 57.1%
Nay: 24 = 42.9%
Abstain:

Vaccination Act PASSED
Aye: 49 = 89.0%
Nay: 6 = 11.0%
Abstain: 1

Compulsory Vaccinations Act PASSED
Aye: 42 = 76.3%
Nay: 13 = 23.7%
Abstain: 1


According the the starting post of the vote, the vote ended 30 minutes ago. I don't have the official power to end the vote, but considering the policy that the PpT has about not counting votes after his set time and date, I can safely say that no votes will be counted after this post.
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Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Haelunor
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Postby Haelunor » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:56 pm

The extermination of the plague may now begin in earnest.
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Dangelia
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Postby Dangelia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:29 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Alcohol Act - NAY
Vaccination Act - AYE
Compulsory Vaccination Act - AYE

:roll: :p

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Ainin
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Ainin » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:26 am

23 November Act
Author: Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS: Order | Urgency: Paramount
Sponsors: Britanno, Geilinor [NDP], Rijkeland [NDP], New Zepuha [NDP], East Ormania [IP], Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Unicario [RG]
On Illegal Organisations
The following organisations, whether this be their formal or informal name, are deemed illegal in the Aurentine Commonwealth:
  • Aurentine-British Mafia
  • Jewish Mafia
  • Franco-Uzbek Mafia
  • American Mafia
  • Aurentine Secret Patriotic Movement
  • Auca-cfg
  • People's Armed Forces for the Liberation of Aurentina
  • Sicilian Mafia
With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.

RE: Internal Security Act (On the Aurentine National Gendarmerie)
The Aurentinian National Gendarmerie is renamed the Aurentine National Gendarmerie.
The Aurentine National Gendarmerie's powers are hereby consolidated to include that of any regional constabulary.
The words "the Gendarmerie and" are struck out from the State of Emergency Act.
The Gendarmerie is mandated to create an undercover force to be sporadically stationed onboard large Aurentine passenger airliners to prevent and deter aircraft hijackings.

RE: Corps Creation Charter (On the Corps of Military Police)
The Corps of Military Police, Naval Corps of Regulators and Air Force Constabulary, to be collectively known for the purpose of future legislation as the Aurentine Provost, are afforded the rights and responsibilities listed under the Policing and Law Enforcement Act, solely on and in the 2km radius around Defence Ministry property.

Codifying Informal Organisations
The Aurentine Financial Police is codified as an investigative agency under the Ministry of Finance tasked with investigating corporate financial crime. It does not hold any law enforcement powers, but may seek and enforce search warrants granted by the Commonwealth Prosecution Service.
The Capital Transportation Police is codified as the law enforcement agency of the Leishaagen Transportation Board/Capital Transportation Commission. Its manpower will be taken from Leishaagen's regional constabulary and will be under the jurisdiction of the latter. It has jurisdiction in and around the property of the Capital Transportation Commission.
The National Police Bureau is created as an agency to supervise and coordinate the activities of regional constabularies, and shall be headed by a Police Commissioner, to be appointed by the Minister of the Interior and who sits in office at the latter's pleasure.
The Arson Investigation Unit is created as an agency to investigate fires of criminal origin (arson). It has the power to arrest suspects.

RE: Ministry Foundation Act (On Constabularies)
Keeping in line with the will and spirit of the Ministry Foundation Act, the Ministry of Justice is relieved of its jurisdiction over the Constabularies, and the Interior Ministry is given it.
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:18 am



These are the next set of bills up for debate, there are some juicy bills that I can see being controversial. Who's going to start us off?
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Heraklea-
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Postby Heraklea- » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:29 am

My honorable colleagues, though I firmly support most of the current legislation under consideration, I must now speak against one bill which we must reject lest we undo the very fabric of a democratic society. The ACORD Establishment Act, if passed, would do little short of allowing a legal framework for a military coup. The requirement for continuation votes is laughable and the actions of the military government will only be judged following the dissolution of the so-called “Emergency Government.” Any emergency powers act must hold as the preferred recipient of emergency powers the duly elected civilian leaders. I urge all of my fellow senators to vote against this abomination against democratic principals.

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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:53 am

Heraklea- wrote:My honorable colleagues, though I firmly support most of the current legislation under consideration, I must now speak against one bill which we must reject lest we undo the very fabric of a democratic society. The ACORD Establishment Act, if passed, would do little short of allowing a legal framework for a military coup. The requirement for continuation votes is laughable and the actions of the military government will only be judged following the dissolution of the so-called “Emergency Government.” Any emergency powers act must hold as the preferred recipient of emergency powers the duly elected civilian leaders. I urge all of my fellow senators to vote against this abomination against democratic principals.


Yes, some of the point's are indeed very worrying from a civilian point of view. I don't think a civilized nation should risk such a thing no matter how bad unrest get's. The rule of law must never be sacrificed, that is what makes us better from south american or African nations. The rule of civilian law should never be compromised.
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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:52 am

The La Francophonie Membership Act must not be approved because only gives beenfits for one language and that's unfair, we must create a bill who covers all the languages spoken here (i.e. Aurentisë, spanish, english, french, portuguese, etc.) so the thing is "all or nothing".
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:53 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:The La Francophonie Membership Act must not be approved because only gives beenfits for one language and that's unfair, we must create a bill who covers all the languages spoken here (i.e. Aurentisë, spanish, english, french, portuguese, etc.) so the thing is "all or nothing".


It is cultural imperialism. The first and main aim of it is to promote and french culture and language as the primary world language.
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Oneracon
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:54 am

Can I also add that the Embassy Act is going to result in either an incredible expense for this nation or Aurentina not recognizing the vast majority of the world.

Further, it mentions nothing of the establishment of foreign embassies within Aurentina or of this nation ratifying the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (1961) and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963).
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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:59 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:The La Francophonie Membership Act must not be approved because only gives beenfits for one language and that's unfair, we must create a bill who covers all the languages spoken here (i.e. Aurentisë, spanish, english, french, portuguese, etc.) so the thing is "all or nothing".


It is cultural imperialism. The first and main aim of it is to promote and french culture and language as the primary world language.


If you add this, many other language will try to do this (I'm planning to do it in spanish) but why not give a change to this I'm not opposed to french culture, I like it to be sincere but we can do something to protect cultures and languages, due to historical, use and another factors who could affect this proposal.
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Oneracon
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:05 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:The La Francophonie Membership Act must not be approved because only gives beenfits for one language and that's unfair, we must create a bill who covers all the languages spoken here (i.e. Aurentisë, spanish, english, french, portuguese, etc.) so the thing is "all or nothing".


It is cultural imperialism. The first and main aim of it is to promote and french culture and language as the primary world language.

Alright, this hyperbole is now verging on the excessive.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:15 am

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
It is cultural imperialism. The first and main aim of it is to promote and french culture and language as the primary world language.

Alright, this hyperbole is now verging on the excessive.


The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.
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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:21 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Alright, this hyperbole is now verging on the excessive.


The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.


The point is: Are you in favor? why?
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Oneracon
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:40 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Alright, this hyperbole is now verging on the excessive.


The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations that have domestic francophone culture. :eyebrow:
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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:42 am

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
The primary mission of the organization is the promotion of the French language as an international language, it's first aim is "Promoting French language and cultural and linguistic diversity."

It want's it's members to make french their main international language. It is culturally imperialistic, it want's it's members to speak and like french culture.

That is a significant logical leap to go from "promoting the French language" to "making French the main international language", Senator.

Further there is nothing in the organizations mission statement of promoting French (i.e. from the French Republic) culture, rather La Francophonie promotes the francophone culture within its member states... which incidentally are all francophone nations. :eyebrow:


But we need promote cultures, all cultures not only french.
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