Illegal SC proposals - post them here

[Sedgistan]

I have no grudge against you. You are discussing the legality of the proposal, which belongs in the proposal's thread. This thread (like the GA equivalent) is for reporting submitted illegal proposals that don't already have a thread on them.

[Port blood]

Can I get a second opinion on this? "refound" is a game term - not a NS term,ergo R4
I don't see in what context refound is a IC term for the WA,you can't refound a country

[Elke and Elba]

Can I get a second opinion on this? "refound" is a game term - not a NS term,ergo R4
I don't see in what context refound is a IC term for the WA,you can't refound a country

Yes you can.

It's beyond irritating you are asking for second opinions for everything when you have been ruled against.

EDIT: Here, your entire list of "refound" search.php?keywords=refound&t=7503&sf=msgonly

Don't tell me "oh mods did a mistake", there are at least 5 passed resolutions with "refound" in them.

[Scolopendra]

• This is a thread for posting submitted proposals that you believe are illegal.
  
• If a proposal already has a thread, discuss it in that thread. Don't post about it here.

(relevant parts extracted and emboldened)

Second opinion, Port Blood: take it to that proposal's thread. This is not the place for it.

~Scolo der Mod

[District XIV]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: alexiandra_1401492151

Liberate The Silver Isles
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The Silver Isles

Proposed by: Alexiandra

Description: regional communities;;
Recognising the contributions of the large amount of nations comprising the Silver Isles diaspra;
Understanding the regions current state;
Believing, however, that many members still call the silver isles home;
Also believing that the silver isles is an ancestral homeland for its 2 successer regions the freed lands and greysteel;
Observing the recent invasion of the silver isles by the black riders;
Further observing the public anouncement of The Black Riders' intent to refound the silver isles;
Believing that this action will deprive many of a region they call home;
Believing this action to be highly insulting to the silver isles diaspra;
Hereby liberates the silver isles.

(Credit goes to The Libertarian Confederation of The greater Vakolicci Haven)

Approvals: 3 (Fristat, Alexiandra, Kavin Pi)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

They blatantly copy/pasted this draft into "their" proposal. I'm not sure if they received permission from the author to do so, even if they left credit.

[Applebania]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: rileytopia22_1401546508

Commend Yauna
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Yauna

Proposed by: RileyTopia22

Description: The nation of Yauna has made many contributions to nation states. It has been improving the region it resides in for years. It follows and supports international law. Its people are very happy and it always follows international agreements. It is constantly passing laws improving the lives of its own people as well as improving foreign nations and regions.

Herby commends Yauna.

Approvals: 2 (Post War America, Jimmy Hart)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 20 hours


No operative clause.

[Sedgistan]

No operative clause.

See:

Herby commends Yauna

It may contain a horrible spelling error, but the meaning is still clear.

[Moronist Decisions]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: celter_1401586009
Commend New Harry Potter

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: New Harry Potter


Proposed by: Celter

Description: RECOGNIZING New Harry Potter for his/her push to liberate his/her region from opposing forces.

CONDEMNING The Black Riders and co.

HEREBY Wishing New Harry Potter the best and I hope Hogwarts lives to a ripe old age!

Rule 3 - fails to commend, rather condemns TBR instead if anything.

[Elke and Elba]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: alexiandra_1401492151

Liberate The Silver Isles
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): The Silver Isles

Proposed by: Alexiandra

Description: regional communities;;
Recognising the contributions of the large amount of nations comprising the Silver Isles diaspra;
Understanding the regions current state;
Believing, however, that many members still call the silver isles home;
Also believing that the silver isles is an ancestral homeland for its 2 successer regions the freed lands and greysteel;
Observing the recent invasion of the silver isles by the black riders;
Further observing the public anouncement of The Black Riders' intent to refound the silver isles;
Believing that this action will deprive many of a region they call home;
Believing this action to be highly insulting to the silver isles diaspra;
Hereby liberates the silver isles.

(Credit goes to The Libertarian Confederation of The greater Vakolicci Haven)

Approvals: 3 (Fristat, Alexiandra, Kavin Pi)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

They blatantly copy/pasted this draft into "their" proposal. I'm not sure if they received permission from the author to do so, even if they left credit.

Vakolic's TG to dels noted that he asked Alexandra to submit for him.
Given that he hasn't got an endorsement, it makes sense as he can't submit it himself.

[Ramaeus]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: andyl2014_1402266521
Commend Nova Castlemilk

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Nova Castlemilk


Proposed by: Andyl2014

Description: This nation has been an asset to Anarchy for over 5 years at least now and has shown great spirit the resolution notes the following.
1. The nation is always respectful and helpful to all natives and has performed well during the recent invasion
2. The nation works hard to ensure the regions success and has been contacting defenders to liberate this region
3. In defending the region against occupation he created the liberation proposal.
4. The nation has been existence for over 5 years now maybe longer.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

R3 and R4.

[Lower Columbian WA Mission]

Repeal "Commend Astarial"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#147

Proposed by: Rheinsche

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #147: Commend Astarial shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: acknowledges that The Islamic Republic of Rehbran has been an active contributor to NationStates for more than nine years.

Recognizes the hard work that Rehban has put into Equilism, serving in nearly every Government position including: Prime Minister, Military Minister, Domestic Affairs Minister, Foreign Affairs Minister, Immigration Minister and Associate Justice.

Notes that the region of Equilism has sustained itself significantly due to the efforts of Rehbran in recruitment, culture, entertainment, and their leadership in the affairs of government through several government terms.

Applauds Rehbran’s long-time involvement in regional militaries and their expertise as a military commander, having served as Secretary of State of the Alliance Defense Network, Commander of the Central Defence Army, and Chief of Staff of the E-Army of Equilism. Their grace and honorable behavior on the battlefield were recognized by allies and opponents alike, and nations across the raider-defender divide.

Admires Rehbran's extensive commitment to legislative improvement in Equilism, Osiris, and The North Pacific, which has led to the nation achieving recognition as an effective legislator and civil servant across interregional boundaries.

Asserts that Rehbran was a fierce campaigner against the rogue delegacy of The Dourian Embassy in Osiris, during which the region was occupied by Gatesville Inc and thousands of nations were ejected. Astarial’s work in the coup’s aftermath, from the positions of Kai Repat and Pharaoh, laid the foundation for the subsequent cultural, legislative, and political reformation of Osiris.

Appreciates Rehbran’s extraordinary skills in diplomacy, evident in their involvement in the successful negotiation of formal treaties, the establishment of long-lasting alliances between multiple regions, and their fundamental contributions to interregional organizations.

Affirms that throughout their history, Rehbran has demonstrated commendable commitment to the protection of regional sovereignty, and has consistently contributed to efforts against the spread of hateful ideologies in NationStates.

Observes Rehbranl’s dedication to mentoring and supporting other nations and World Assembly Delegates in their duties, applying their experience and knowledge to supporting the next generation of regional leaders, and acknowledging these efforts as having contributed to the nation's international respect as a highly capable diplomat and honourable nation.

Contends that Rehbran’s leadership has brought peace and tranquility to ,united empire of islam a region previously plagued with unrest and military upheavals. Under Rehbran’s direction, Warzone Europe has enjoyed a stable delegacy for the record period of six months.

Believes that the contributions of Rehbran to NationStates are extensive, significant and deserving of recognition.

Hereby commends The Islamic Republic of Rehbran

Co-authored by Rheinsche.

R2 and R3 - this proposal is plagiarized from the newly-passed "Commend Astarial", which it would repeal despite lacking an operative clause to that effect.

ETA:

Repeal "Commend Astarial"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#147

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #147: Commend Astarial shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: No nation needs to be acknowledged for playing nation states a long time. All nations must be equal. By passing all of these commending bills, you are saying that one nation is better than another. No nation is better then another weather they are big or small, democratic or a dictatorship. All nations must be equal always.

R3 and R4 - no operative clause, breaks the fourth wall.

[Ramaeus]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: erandur_1403406006
Condemn Boomtown Party Animals

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Boomtown Party Animals


Proposed by: Erandur

Description: The Kingdom of Boomtown Party Animals has been harassing two nations The Rogue Nation of Derpaderp of Derpiness and The Dictatorship of Desolate Federation.

The Second Republic Alliance has recently banned these two poor victims (The Rogue Nation of Derpaderp of Derpiness and The Dictatorship of Desolate Federation.) of identity theft. The reason being spamming the regions off site chat-room with foul language and typical toxicity of a 10 year old gamer.

I The Dictatorship of Erandur, being close friends(irl) with the two victims propose to the WA to condemn The Kingdom of Boomtown Party Animals.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

R2 and R4.

[Damanucus]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: erandur_1403406006
Condemn Boomtown Party Animals

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Boomtown Party Animals


Proposed by: Erandur

Description: The Kingdom of Boomtown Party Animals has been harassing two nations The Rogue Nation of Derpaderp of Derpiness and The Dictatorship of Desolate Federation.

The Second Republic Alliance has recently banned these two poor victims (The Rogue Nation of Derpaderp of Derpiness and The Dictatorship of Desolate Federation.) of identity theft. The reason being spamming the regions off site chat-room with foul language and typical toxicity of a 10 year old gamer.

I The Dictatorship of Erandur, being close friends(irl) with the two victims propose to the WA to condemn The Kingdom of Boomtown Party Animals.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 77 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

R2 and R4.

Yeah. This one isn't worth condemnation; it's worthy of a GHR. Know the difference, people!

[Ramaeus]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: araluen_and_eyreland_1404530380
Condemn Baughistan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Baughistan


Proposed by: Araluen and Eyreland

Description: Recognizing that Baughistan, a fascist country, detonated a super-thermonuclear bomb against his own civilian population, and has committed many atrocities against mankind,

Also acknowledging that he admitted to being the one to detonate the bomb, and commit the said atrocities,

Hereby condemns Baughistan.

Approvals: 1 (Araluen and Eyreland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 72 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

R4.

[Chester Pearson]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: araluen_and_eyreland_1404530380
Condemn Baughistan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Baughistan


Proposed by: Araluen and Eyreland

Description: Recognizing that Baughistan, a fascist country, detonated a super-thermonuclear bomb against his own civilian population, and has committed many atrocities against mankind,

Also acknowledging that he admitted to being the one to detonate the bomb, and commit the said atrocities,

Hereby condemns Baughistan.

Approvals: 1 (Araluen and Eyreland)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 72 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

R4.

What precisely is a super-thermonuclear bomb.

[Frisbeeteria]

What precisely is a super-thermonuclear bomb.

It's something like this, but with a cape.

[Lexicor]

What precisely is a super-thermonuclear bomb.

It's something like this, but with a cape.

So a super-thermonuclear kryptonite bomb would render this useless?

[Chester Pearson]

What precisely is a super-thermonuclear bomb.

It's something like this, but with a cape.

Thanks for clearing that up Fris....

[Bears Armed]

I'm not entirely familiar with how the SC's rules differ from those of the GA, but I'm furrly sure that this proposal is illegal for at least three reasons anyhows...

Liberate Tropicaria
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Tropicaria

Proposed by: The Brotherhood of Kyro

Description: AWARE that many regions are password protected.

DISAPPOINTED that many password protection regions are starting to die off due to the password restriction.

UNDERSTANDING that not all regions wish to not have their password protection lifted.

HOPING that lifting password protections on dying regions will spur activity and cause renewal to be spread across nationstates with activity.

HERBY enacts the fallowing.

1. All regional WA deligates shall receive a PM asking for a lifting of the region's password protection.

1.1 If the region does not have a WA delicate the PM shall go to the region's founder.

2. The WA deligate or the Founder must respond to the PM within 30 days weather or not they want the password lifted.

3. If they do not respond within the designated time period then the password protection shall be nullified.

3.1 The same shall occur if they choose to have it lifted.

4. If they respond that they want to keep the password protection then the region's password protection shall remain in effect.

Approvals: 1 (The Brotherhood of Kyro)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 73 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

[Nephmir]

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1405011562

Plagiarizes the proposal directly above it.

Edit: here

[Elke and Elba]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: blyskalia_1405271042
Commend Coalition of Catholic States

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Coalition of Catholic States


Proposed by: Blyskalia

Description: Understanding

1) That the Coalition of Catholic States has defended various regions and is strongly opposed to raiding.

2)That the Coalition of Catholic States is not strictly a "right-wing" or Conservative Region, and is open to dialogue about controversial issues and openly accepting of other beliefs.

Applauding

1)The Coalition of Catholic States is accepting of those who oppose the main ideologies of the region.

2)The Coalition of Catholic States is very proud of it's diversity racially, ideologically, and religiously.

3)The Coalition of Catholic States promotes a safe healthy environment for nations to debate various topics without harassment.

4)The Coalition of Catholic States' regional delegate, Wagafraga, who promotes the equality of all races, political ideologies, religions, and who is very helpful of newly formed nations seeking to get a foothold in International Politics.

5)The Coalition of Catholic States Army, which has many members, with a notable 17 victorious defenses of the now defunct regions of The Persian Empire and Imperial Rome that were being attacked or targeted by the Eastern Roman Empire, and countless defenses against the Black Riders.

6) The Catholic Democracy of Lord solaris, one of The Coalition of Catholic States' experienced military tacticians, stating "The later of which was one of the original members of largely successful Ten Thousand Isles Treaty Organisation. (TITO). In recent years I was again head of defence in the region of Rome and was appointed defender of the state after the death of its founder, I defended it for over 2 years."

Co-Authors:The Holy Empire of Trabadius and The Free Land of Gay Catholic

Can't be bothered with that thread. Rule 4. Emphasis mine.

'Who' should be Rule 4 too given that who is usually used for a person, compared to 'which'.

[Maltropia]

-snip-

Already has a thread.

[Sedgistan]

Can't be bothered with that thread.

In future, please be bothered. If a proposal has a thread, discuss its legality there. This thread is only for proposals that don't already have threads of their own.

[Elke and Elba]

Can't be bothered with that thread.

In future, please be bothered. If a proposal has a thread, discuss its legality there. This thread is only for proposals that don't already have threads of their own.

Even when the submitted copy is not that of the draft?

Clause 6 was pretty much not there until the author updated it, just a few hours ago.

[Sedgistan]

Even when the submitted copy is not that of the draft?

Yes. It's better to have all the conversation on a proposal in one thread, rather than having to jump between different ones to follow the discussion.