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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:47 am

Wolfdon wrote:9 hours ago: Cresenthia approved the World Assembly proposal "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".
11 hours ago: Vancouvia approved the World Assembly proposal "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".
12 hours ago: Wolfdon submitted a proposal to the Security Council Commendation Board entitled "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".

Would the top two count as plagiary?

No, there was no duplicate submitted at all.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:08 am

New Dukaine wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:I don't see any R4b violations, and you'll need to be more specific than just R2. I feel like the operative clause is a bit weak, so I'll let moderation make the call.

Do you see all of those "yours" and "theys"?

Yeah....

also... the black hawks are already condemned, so that is an R2b

Uh, "your" and "they" are acceptable pronouns. I think you need to reread R4b:
(b) You must refer to nations as nations, not as the player behind them. This includes the use of pronouns such as "he" or "she" as opposed to "they".

It specifically mentions that the word "they" is a legal term. You are correct on the R2b thing though, my bad.
Wolfdon wrote:9 hours ago: Cresenthia approved the World Assembly proposal "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".
11 hours ago: Vancouvia approved the World Assembly proposal "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".
12 hours ago: Wolfdon submitted a proposal to the Security Council Commendation Board entitled "Commend Congratulations on being Featured".

Would the top two count as plagiary?

I was going to start this off with "plagiary is not a word" but then I realized it is a word that means "one that plagiarizes" however I doubt it was the word you meant so I'll be a jerk and point it out anyways.

Either way, the top two simply approved the bottom proposal, they did not submit other "Commend Congratulations on being Featured"s. Additionally, just because two proposals have the same name that does not mean they are plagiarized. They could have completely different texts with the same title.
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Postby Wolfdon » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:46 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:No, there was no duplicate submitted at all.

We Are Not the NSA wrote:I was going to start this off with "plagiary is not a word" but then I realized it is a word that means "one that plagiarizes" however I doubt it was the word you meant so I'll be a jerk and point it out anyways.

Either way, the top two simply approved the bottom proposal, they did not submit other "Commend Congratulations on being Featured"s. Additionally, just because two proposals have the same name that does not mean they are plagiarized. They could have completely different texts with the same title.

Whoops, sorry. My mistake. :p
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:42 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: greater_carloso_1459702023

Commend Kaalmi

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Kaalmi

Proposed by: Greater Carloso

Description: Recognising that His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, King of Scotland and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular is indeed the greatest

Believing that Uganda is indeed the greatest country in the universe

Feeling that Mr. Idi Amin's good work in the community of nations has gone unrewarded, entirely the work of Obote men

Hearby commends Mr. Idi Amin


R4a - all real world references. Nominee and subject of the proposal are not the same either. And can't spell "hereby".
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Postby We Couldnt Agree On A Name » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:53 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote: all real world references. Nominee and subject of the proposal are not the same either.

Not true. It's all a reference to the nations political campaign.
It'd be illgeal for being a joke proposal but I don't see a rule against those.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:20 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: trumptower_1459727484

Commend TrumpLandia the second

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: TrumpLandia the second

Proposed by: TrumpTOWER

Description: Please help me create a colony and tell me the steps I need to do to create a colony

Approvals: 4 (Vancouvia, Rhyphix, Burned lands, Abdoa)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 109 more approvals)

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:25 am

We Couldnt Agree On A Name wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote: all real world references. Nominee and subject of the proposal are not the same either.

Not true. It's all a reference to the nations political campaign.
It'd be illgeal for being a joke proposal but I don't see a rule against those.

Check here.

viewtopic.php?p=3755848#p3755848

Either way it's been pulled.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Caelapes » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:10 am

    
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:39 am

I'm not seeing that as significant enough to be considered plagiarism. There's a little bit of structure and content that's been used, but the wording for that is different, and there's other content that's his own.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:03 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: drwinner_1459770899

Condemn Pierconium

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Pierconium

Proposed by: DrWinner

Description: The Security Council,

Noting that The Augustus Ordo Pacificus of Pierconium is, by popular demand, the delegate of the Pacific,

Also noting that the Pacific has been condemned by SC#177 for heinous acts against the status quo,

Suspicious of Pierconium's potential participation in such acts,

Fearing that Pierconium may only be kept in power through propaganda and intimidation,

Realizing Pierconium and his officers' gross abuse of power within the Pacific, suppressing on average one out of three RMB posts and ejecting on average one member every seventy-four seconds,

Noting once more the unusually strict endorsement limit of ten enforced by Pierconium and the mandatory adoption of the Denarius currency, prohibiting members from customizing their nations to the full extent,

Finally recognizing that Pierconium is just a terrible person all-around,

Hereby condemns Pierconium.


R4 violation - use of the word "posts".
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:25 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:R4 violation - use of the word "posts".

But this line is okay? :P
Finally recognizing that Pierconium is just a terrible person all-around,

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:18 am

Sedgistan wrote:But this line is okay? :P
Finally recognizing that Pierconium is just a terrible person all-around,

I ain't touching that one with a 10 foot barge pole Sedge. :p
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Greater Carloso » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:21 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: greater_carloso_1459702023

Commend Kaalmi

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Kaalmi

Proposed by: Greater Carloso

Description: Recognising that His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, King of Scotland and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular is indeed the greatest

Believing that Uganda is indeed the greatest country in the universe

Feeling that Mr. Idi Amin's good work in the community of nations has gone unrewarded, entirely the work of Obote men

Hearby commends Mr. Idi Amin


R4a - all real world references. Nominee and subject of the proposal are not the same either. And can't spell "hereby".

Brilliant isn't it.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:03 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: nova_roman_empire_1459790989

Commend Caelapes

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation

Nominee: Caelapes

Proposed by: Nova Roman Empire

Description: Comrades, today is a day of new light. Through democracy and the power of the people Communism has emerged victorious in every fashion. Join me in commending our fellow Comrade The People's Secretary-General of Caelapes and his outstanding victory as WA Secretary-General.

RECONISING The People's Secretary-General of Caelapes valiant victory in the election of Secretary General. Their devotion to the Communist cause has proven to be fruitful in liberating the people from Capitalist oppression.

COMMENDING the historic achievement of The People's Secretary-General of Caelapes and the victory of Communism

We the Nations of the World Assembly Security Council hereby Commend The People's Secretary-General of Caelapes and rejoice in the victory of Communism.


R4b
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:12 pm

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: North Krualstiken

Description: Condemning Thomas Branson III for its utter ignorance towards the obvious joke of the elections, which were made for April fools day, in which the nation decided to make a proposal which would condemn the newly elected Secretary General. The nations reasons for doing so being that the Secretary General would abuse his powers, when it turns out that the Secretary General has no powers.

RECOGNIZING that the nation did this out of jealousy towards losing in the elections.

SHOCKED that such a proposal was submitted, and accepted into the WA.

APPALLED that the nation in question would decide to condemn a nation so shortly after that nation was elected for a position.

HEREBY the World Assembly condemns Thomas Branson III

R4b
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:43 pm

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: The Confederacy of the Republic

Description: He disagreed with what I think. Please take me seriously.

R3 and R4b.
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Postby New Dukaine » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:06 pm

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Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: UnitedTerran

Description: RECOGNIZING: That the Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III has been conducting post-election activities, which undermine the World Assembly democratic process, which allows candidates to run during an election for any reason, which relies on popular support.

SHOCKED, that this nation is willing to ignore election results and attempt to condemn a nation that has received numerous supporters before and after a proposal to condemn the victim was passed.

APPALLED: That this nation would attempt to spread their anti-communist beliefs to other countries, potentially causing disarray and chaos.

HEREBY: The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III be condemned by the General Assembly.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 113 more approvals)

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This made me rofl

r4a?
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New Dukaine wrote:
ID: unitedterran_1459821457

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: UnitedTerran

Description: RECOGNIZING: That the Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III has been conducting post-election activities, which undermine the World Assembly democratic process, which allows candidates to run during an election for any reason, which relies on popular support.

SHOCKED, that this nation is willing to ignore election results and attempt to condemn a nation that has received numerous supporters before and after a proposal to condemn the victim was passed.

APPALLED: That this nation would attempt to spread their anti-communist beliefs to other countries, potentially causing disarray and chaos.

HEREBY: The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III be condemned by the General Assembly.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 113 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour


This made me rofl

r4a?

How... is that a real world reference?

The operative clause doesn't seem up to par though, so I'd say it is an R3 violation.
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Postby Leppikania » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:34 am

Seems a bit tit-for-tat too.
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Postby New Dukaine » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:25 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:
ID: unitedterran_1459821457

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: UnitedTerran

Description: RECOGNIZING: That the Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III has been conducting post-election activities, which undermine the World Assembly democratic process, which allows candidates to run during an election for any reason, which relies on popular support.

SHOCKED, that this nation is willing to ignore election results and attempt to condemn a nation that has received numerous supporters before and after a proposal to condemn the victim was passed.

APPALLED: That this nation would attempt to spread their anti-communist beliefs to other countries, potentially causing disarray and chaos.

HEREBY: The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III be condemned by the General Assembly.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 113 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour


This made me rofl

r4a?

How... is that a real world reference?

The operative clause doesn't seem up to par though, so I'd say it is an R3 violation.

I can't tell which is what now.
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Postby Leppikania » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:07 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: eurasian_socialist_federation_1459961266

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: Eurasian Socialist Federation

Description: RECOGNIZING that The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III proposed the recent Security Council proposal "Condemn Caelapes";

DEPLORED that The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III proposed such a resolution as to condemn the newly elected Secretary General on grounds of a planned action which may or may not be implemented;

SHOCKED AND APPALLED at The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III's use of fear-mongering against "Communism" (which may in fact be completely unimplementable due to the currently undefined powers of the WA Secretary General), and their claim that this would destroy "democracy", even though, if implemented, The Rose Commune of Caelapes's proposals would, in fact, improve direct democracy in the WA;

ACKNOWLEDGING that The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III claimed that The Rose Commune of Caelapes was unfairly elected because he only won a plurality, which in the first-past-the-post voting system created by the WA makes him the winner of the election and that The Rose Commune of Caelapes was, in fact, elected by 40% of the electorate, which, in a five-way election is not to be unexpected;

DISGUSTED at Thomas branson ii's abuse of the Security Council's "Condemnation" feature to spur The Rose Commune of Caelapes into "fulfill their duties as Secretary General," even though these duties remain completely undefined, as stated above;

HEREBY CONDEMNS The Grand Duchy of Thomas Branson III.

Approvals: 3 (Cresenthia, The Imperium of The Reich, Vancouvia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 112 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours

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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:09 pm

Commend Nova Hansa

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Nova Hansa


Proposed by: Prumerica

Description:

SHOCKED by his resistance to outside threats.

AMAZED by his ability to lead regions.

THANKFUL that he pulled his region though hard times.

HAPPY that he is with us and the rest of nationstates

HEREBY commends The Imperium of Nova Hansa for his great work.

Approvals: 8 (Prumerica, Tar Sands and Decorative Pillows Inc, Vancouvia, Malphaopotamia, Morientis Wish, XxXx420n0sk0p3z360 Nati0nstat3sXXd0rit0s, Lennia, Antazi)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

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Postby Leppikania » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:54 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: cinder_falls_1460036034

Condemn Thomas Branson III

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Thomas Branson III

Proposed by: Cinder Falls

Description: RECOGNIZING that [Caelapes] won the election for WA Secretary General by a considerable margin.

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that [Thomas Branson III] would deny the legitimacy of the position.

APALLED that [Thomas Branson III] would attempt to interrupt the democratic process.

HOPING that [Thomas Branson III] will abide by the election process in the future, without attempting to force their own system on our leaders.

HEREBY the World Assembly condemns [Thomas Branson III]

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 115 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:26 am

Condemn Texas Scotts

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Texas Scotts

Proposed by: Atrocia

Description: I would like to condemn Texas Scotts for hacking into my region and banning the founder and all of the officers.

And for being a general stupid git.

Thank you

I know this sounds trumped up,
but he acted like trump

Multiple R4 violations.
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Postby Leppikania » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:19 pm

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: death_star_xvii_1460074311

Repeal "Condemn the Pacific"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#177

Proposed by: Death Star XVII

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #177: Condemn the Pacific shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: REALIZING that since this condemnation The Pacific has become a better region. Existing only to help and not to hurt.

NOTING that The Pacific is friendly to all newcomers.

IT is time to repeal this resolution!

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 115 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

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