Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Zeth Rekia]

F-6000 Raptor

Weapons: Words of hate. Drawings of deformed penises.
Fuel: Spite

Good luck shooting these down with all your missiles and guns.

[Onekawa-Nukanor]

If you want to import, go F-20, unless you have an ally who uses F-16s.
Otherwise develop a Lavi-clone.

Anyways, I pimped out my WWII era fighter as a long-range escort, powered by a turboprop.

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Lavi-clone?

[Whittoria]

F-6000 Raptor
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Weapons: Words of hate. Drawings of deformed penises.
Fuel: Spite

Good luck shooting these down with all your missiles and guns.

where can i get one?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

If you want to import, go F-20, unless you have an ally who uses F-16s.
Otherwise develop a Lavi-clone.

Anyways, I pimped out my WWII era fighter as a long-range escort, powered by a turboprop.

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Lavi-clone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi

There's also this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Avion

This is a bit underpowered...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo

Although redesigning it around either an F404 or a PW1120 might make sense.

If you're on a budget and have F-5s and F-4s, redesigning an F-5 to take a J79 might be another option.

Also, No Endorse, don't forget the Mirage III, 5, 50 and F-1.

Erm, I got suitable fighters too, St. George, they're posted somewhere in here.

[O-J Island]

We use the F-35b VTOL.
You can get more information on my thread, Your Nation's Air Force.
It's in NationStates.

There's not much more information there...also, if you're going to go F-35, the B model is probably going to be the worst choice from an air superiority stand point.

But we only use them for carrier ops. Our main fighter is the A variant, but we also use Sukhoi Su-27s. The Su-27s are being phased out. The first fighter plane our air force had was the Sopwith Camel.

[Whittoria]

The F1 Mirage is the only French plane I truly liked

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Ly 5 Sablya

Primary Function: Tactical Fighter
Contractor: Lyulka Design Bureau OKB
Power Plant: 1 380kW (1 850hp) Kuznetsov M-120UM2 air-cooled radial engine
Length: 8.6 metres (28"3")
Height: 2.54 metres (8'4")
Wingspan: 11.28 metres (37')
Ceiling: 11 000 metres (36 090')
Speed: 684 km/h (420 mph)
Ferry Range: 2 750 km (1 650 mi)
Empty Weight: 2 640 kg (5 820lbs)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 4 525kg (9 960lbs)
Armament: 3x 25mm cannon
Crew: 1



Ly 5bis Sablya

Primary Function: Tactical Fighter
Contractor: Lyulka Design Bureau OKB
Power Plant: 2 475kW (3 320shp) Mikulin T640-170 turboprop (+5.33kN[1 200lbs] residual thrust, giving 3,780 eshp)
Length: 8.6 metres (28"3")
Height: 2.54 metres (8'4")
Wingspan: 11.28 metres (37')
Ceiling: 11 000 metres (36 090')
Speed: 775 km/h (480 mph)
Ferry Range: 2 750 km (1 650 mi)
Empty Weight: 2 915 kg (6 425lbs)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 5 220kg (11 500lbs)
Armament: 3x 25mm cannon
Crew: 1

Introduced in early 1943 the Ly 5 was widely produced until 1948. Designed to replace the earlier Ly 3, the Ly 5 featured a redesigned laminar airflow wing which reduced drag and improved performance at high altitude. The wing was redeisgned with three main objectives: 1) To raise as much as possible the critical speed at which drag increases, due to compressibility, become serious. 2) To obtain a rate of roll faster than any existing fighter. 3) To reduce wing profile drag and thereby improve performance.

The Ly 5 did show drastically improved performance, allowing it to replace existing Ly 3s and also supliment the more expensive Pa 11 interceptor. The Ly 5 was well loved by it's pilots for it's reliability and versatility. Automated engine controls simplified flying and an drastically improved gunsight and heavier firepower made it more lethal than ever in combat. In addition to it's importance as a fighter it served as a testbed for a number of projects including the Objekt 37 turboprop testbed and the Obyekt 38 swept wing technology demonstrator. After the success of the Obyekt 37, which made use of a prototype Mikulin turboprop the decision was made to develop the Ly 5bis as a turboprop powered version of the Sablya. The Ly 5bis entered service in October 1944 and became the definitive version of the Ly 5 design.

Ly 7 Sovnya

Primary Function: Long Range Escort Fighter and Interceptor
Contractor: Lyulka Design Bureau OKB
Power Plant: 2 475kW (3 320shp) Mikulin T640-170 turboprop (+5.33kN[1 200lbs] residual thrust, giving 3,780 eshp)
Length: 8.6 metres (28"3")
Height: 2.54 metres (8'4")
Wingspan: 11.28 metres (32')
Ceiling: 13 725 metres (45 000')
Speed: 920 km/h (575 mph)
Ferry Range: 2 440 km (1 500 mi)
Empty Weight: 3 195 kg (7 040lbs)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 4 525kg (9 960lbs)
Armament: 3x 25mm cannon or 1x 35mm cannon and 2x 25mm cannon
Crew: 1

From the Obyekt 37 and 38 technology demonstrators the Obyekt 39 was developed. It displayed surprising performance, with a top speed 50 km/h faster than the Pa 17 turbojet powered fighter. Obyekt 38 was developed to test aerodynamic surfaces to settle the argument between two competing camps working on the Ly 9 jet fighter. The improvements in top speed, especially at altitude settled the debate and the design went into production with a 35 degree wing sweep. Mating the Obyekt 37 engine and Obyekt 38 engine produced Obyekt 39, the prototype of the Ly 7. With the underpowered Pa 17 failing to meet the requirements of the interceptor role and the Ly 9 advanced jet fighter design taking more time to ready for production then intended, it was decided to accept the Ly 7 for the role of interceptor.

In December of 1944 Air Defence Command started to receive their first Ly 7s and put them to good use in blunting enemy long range bombing raids. The Ly 7 was capable of reaching out and stopping enemy bombers at a much longer range and was capable of outrunning all but the fastest jet fighters, it was even able to outrun many jets. This speed came at a price; the Sovnya became known for it's loud and very distinctive sound, caused by the propeller tips exceeding the speed of sound. Designed as a stopgap, the Ly 7 was transfered away from frontline units after the end of the Great Defencive War and was retired entirely by 1956, the Ly 5BM2 and Shvetsov Shv 4 being preferred in the close support role and the brand new Fy 13 Kanyuk being preferred as a high speed strike platform.

[The Corparation]

@ Soviet Haaregrad: Looks good, I really like the contra rotating props. Personally all the prop planes I've draw have contra-rotating props, and I consider them a must for any decent post-WWII prop drvien aircraft.

Ok silly idea: A large four seat fighter with a small cabin with bunks, a toliet, and a microwave behind the cockpit. Designed to be airborne for possibly days at a time in times of crisis to safegaurd A.R.C. formations (Airborne Retaliation Craft) (ARCs are basically large bombers with advanced comunication systems and launch controls for carrying and launching pegasus like rocket with a nuclear payload of several MRVs)

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I feel bad it gets retired so soon. It's charismatic (the Ly 7, I mean). At least the straight winged ones lasted. I'm a big fan of contra-rotating props too, I actually came up with the concept for the Ly 7 about... 7 years ago, just took until now to flesh it out.

Next comes the Shv 4 I mentioned.

[Star Trek America]

Been a while so here goes my list, again.

The Primary Fighter of the Federal Air Force is the much over used
F-22 Raptor - 150 are in service with 190 planned for completion.

The Federal Navy utilizes three aircraft, two of which differ from the Federal Air Force.

They operate the older but much loved BAE Harrier [Mk I and Mk II] which has served them since it's entrance into service in 1970. - 200 are in service, all are completed.

Also operated is the F-36 Pharaoh's Sword, a multi-role VTOL stealth-fighter. [F-35 without the lulhueg flaws and bullshittery.] - 115 are in service with another 100 planned.

The final aeroplane operated by the Federal Navy is the little brother to the F-22 Raptor utilized by the Air Force.

The F-22N Sea Raptor is due to replace the much loved Harrier entirely by 2020. - 25 are currently in service with another 50 planned.

[The Corparation]

Been a while so here goes my list, again.

The Primary Fighter of the Federal Air Force is the much over used
F-22 Raptor - 150 are in service with 190 planned for completion.

The Federal Navy utilizes three aircraft, two of which differ from the Federal Air Force.

They operate the older but much loved BAE Harrier [Mk I and Mk II] which has served them since it's entrance into service in 1970. - 200 are in service, all are completed.

Also operated is the F-36 Pharaoh's Sword, a multi-role VTOL stealth-fighter. [F-35 without the lulhueg flaws and bullshittery.] - 115 are in service with another 100 planned.

The final aeroplane operated by the Federal Navy is the little brother to the F-22 Raptor utilized by the Air Force.

The F-22N Sea Raptor is due to replace the much loved Harrier entirely by 2020. - 25 are currently in service with another 50 planned.

You're replacing a VTOL attack craft with an air superiority fighter? Why not just use the F-35 knock-off?

[Greater-Prussia]

Been a while so here goes my list, again.

The Primary Fighter of the Federal Air Force is the much over used
F-22 Raptor - 150 are in service with 190 planned for completion.

The Federal Navy utilizes three aircraft, two of which differ from the Federal Air Force.

They operate the older but much loved BAE Harrier [Mk I and Mk II] which has served them since it's entrance into service in 1970. - 200 are in service, all are completed.

Also operated is the F-36 Pharaoh's Sword, a multi-role VTOL stealth-fighter. [F-35 without the lulhueg flaws and bullshittery.] - 115 are in service with another 100 planned.

The final aeroplane operated by the Federal Navy is the little brother to the F-22 Raptor utilized by the Air Force.

The F-22N Sea Raptor is due to replace the much loved Harrier entirely by 2020. - 25 are currently in service with another 50 planned.

You're replacing a VTOL attack craft with an air superiority fighter? Why not just use the F-35 knock-off?

Probably because his F/N-22 is an F/A-22N.

[The Corparation]

You're replacing a VTOL attack craft with an air superiority fighter? Why not just use the F-35 knock-off?

Probably because his F/N-22 is an F/A-22N.

But hes replacing a VTOL craft with a non VTOL craft. Which doesn't make sense.

[New Korongo]

Unless you have runways

[The Corparation]

Unless you have runways

If you have runways then why'd you pick the harrier in the first place, you would go with something like the A-4.

[New Korongo]

Unless you have runways

If you have runways then why'd you pick the harrier in the first place, you would go with something like the A-4.

Better armament?

[Greater-Prussia]

Probably because his F/N-22 is an F/A-22N.

But hes replacing a VTOL craft with a non VTOL craft. Which doesn't make sense.

He's phasing out an older VTOL because he has a newer one is what it reads off of to me.

[Kruplyan]

The F-14D and F-15E.

[The Corparation]

If you have runways then why'd you pick the harrier in the first place, you would go with something like the A-4.

Better armament?

A-4 can carry nearly a ton more bombs and is way cheaper. It does have less hardpoints though then the version of the harrier he uses (8). Earlier Harriers had the same number of hardpoints as the A-4 (5). Unless you want a vtol it looks to me that an upgraded A-4 would beat a harrier.

[Vassenor]

Probably because his F/N-22 is an F/A-22N.

But hes replacing a VTOL craft with a non VTOL craft. Which doesn't make sense.

It's what the British Royal Navy is doing IRL.

[The Corparation]

But hes replacing a VTOL craft with a non VTOL craft. Which doesn't make sense.

It's what the British Royal Navy is doing IRL.

But that's because they no longer need the harrier as they're getting a new catapult carrier to replace their ski-jump ones.

[Vassenor]

It's what the British Royal Navy is doing IRL.

But that's because they no longer need the harrier as they're getting a new catapult carrier to replace their ski-jump ones.

Sort of. The original plan was to buy the F-35B, but recent budget cuts meant that's been switched to the -C model instead, as it's cheaper and can carry more.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Pa 13 Kometa

Introduced in 1941, the Pa 13 was the last design by Nestor Żurakowski before he left for the Shvetsov bureau. When the Kometa was designed it was envisioned as a specialized aircraft; its primary role was that of a high-speed, short range bomber interceptor. The Pa 13 was also designed to take advantage of the most advanced aerodynamics of the time and embodied structural techniques which were an advance on its contemporaries. It was to be a strictly local-defense interceptor, intended to counter the threat of high-altitude bomber raids, and thus relied on speed, climb performance, and armament at the expense of manoeuvrability. Rare for a CISR design, it made use of a liquid cooled engine.The Pa 13 was a sleek, but stubby craft with its over-sized V12 engine and chin-mounted radiator.

With it's effective two-stage turbo-supercharger the aircraft soon gained dominance in the daylight hours, forcing a switch to night time bombing. With an increase in use against fighters the Kometa's lack of agility started to reduce it's effectiveness. Improved versions, using high-lift devices were able to considerably enhance the handling qualities of the Pa 13. Since the fighter was being designed primarily for high-speed flight, a smaller wing area would be optimal for achieving high level speeds, but the downside of such a trade-off was that low-speed flight would suffer, as the smaller wing would require more airflow to generate enough lift to stay flying. To compensate for this, the Kometa included advanced high-lift devices on the wings, including automatically opening leading edge slats, and fairly large camber-changing flaps on the trailing edge. The slats increased the overall lift of the wing considerably when deployed, greatly improving the horizontal maneuverability of the aircraft.

Pa 13PD Kometa
Primary Function: Interceptor, Fighter
Contractor: Pavlov Design Bureau OKB
Power Plant: 1 358kW (1 820hp) Mikulin M-242M liquid-cooled inverted V12 engine
Length: 8.95 metres (29'7")
Height: 3.8 metres (13')
Wingspan: 10.20 metres (33'5")
Ceiling: 12 000 metres (39 400')
Speed: 710 km/h (440 mph)
Ferry Range: 1 000 km (620 mi)
Empty Weight: 2 840 kg (6 260lbs)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 3 480kg (7 670lbs)
Armament: 2x 13.5mm autorevolver machine guns and 2x 25mm cannon, 2x 250kg bombs in fighter bomber role
Crew: 1

[Arkinesia]

But that's because they no longer need the harrier as they're getting a new catapult carrier to replace their ski-jump ones.

Sort of. The original plan was to buy the F-35B, but recent budget cuts meant that's been switched to the -C model instead, as it's cheaper and can carry more.

Who cares, F-35 is still shit.

[Vassenor]

OK, ideas time.

F-14Ds: Replace, Upgrade or retcon?