NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #5

[Velkanika]

You've never actually done any tracking, have you? That's plenty of resolution to distinguish human from animal footprints, including whether they were wearing boots or not.

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Within 3 seconds on both images.

That's only just long enough for the FLIR camouflage equipped T-72 to slew his turret and elevate his gun towards the helicopter.

So don't sit still and don't fly in a straight line over a combat zone. You might miss it, but that's just the nature of reconnaissance if you want to stay alive.

[Imperializt Russia]

Also, even a camouflaged tank will be moving at relatively high speed, making it far easier to spot than in those two images.

[Kampala-]

That's only just long enough for the FLIR camouflage equipped T-72 to slew his turret and elevate his gun towards the helicopter.

So don't sit still and don't fly in a straight line over a combat zone. You might miss it, but that's just the nature of reconnaissance if you want to stay alive.

No, modern FCS has no real trouble handling moving targets.

Also, even a camouflaged tank will be moving at relatively high speed, making it far easier to spot than in those two images.

I don't think camouflage has any bearing on velocity.

[Imperializt Russia]

The implication of images like these is as though a tank will sit there going "imma shrub, imma shrub, imma shrub", because it's camouflaged.

[Velkanika]

So don't sit still and don't fly in a straight line over a combat zone. You might miss it, but that's just the nature of reconnaissance if you want to stay alive.

No, modern FCS has no real trouble handling moving targets.

Jinxing exists for a reason. Sudden and unexpected changes in altitude, airspeed, and course will throw off the aim of both humans and computers, which is why all military helicopter pilots practice it. If you fly in a straight line for 30 seconds over a high-intensity battlefield you're going to die, so they don't.

Also, even a camouflaged tank will be moving at relatively high speed, making it far easier to spot than in those two images.

I don't think camouflage has any bearing on velocity.

The human eye is drawn to motion, so if it moves while someone is looking at the area chances are it'll be noticed.

[The Kievan People]

Within 3 seconds on both images.

It's cheating if you don't point it out.

[Velkanika]

Within 3 seconds on both images.

It's cheating if you don't point it out.

That would spoil the fun for everyone who hasn't looked it it yet.

Alright, the front of the turret is colder than the rest of the tank. That shouldn't give anything away for anyone that still wants to look for it.

[Purpelia]

It's cheating if you don't point it out.

That would spoil the fun for everyone who hasn't looked it it yet.

Alright, the front of the turret is colder than the rest of the tank. That shouldn't give anything away for anyone that still wants to look for it.

Yea, I think I get it now. Once you crop out half of the turret the image you are looking for looks a lot more like a MT-LB. And those I can easily find.

[San-Silvacian]

Named after the scrapped and cancelled Joffre class carrier from WW2, it carries 30-40 fixed wing aircraft and a dozen or so helicopters. Has a rather light self-defense armament.



175~ meter ship w/ 3 64 cell VLS stations, Exocet, 3 OTP 76mm and 4OTO 40mm. Carries 2 helicopters for ASW duties. Named in honor of the Suffren Class heavy cruiser Dupleix, which was scuttled in Toulon.



General purpose 140 meter ship w/ 64 cell VLS, exocet, Aster 15/30, OTO 76mm and 40mm. Will be named after small/medium sized blue water combat craft from 1930-1950s. Used as forward scouting vessels.



French LCS for near shore combat support, deep river patrols. Also name is temporary, will be will be named after an older class of small patrol craft from 1930-1950s.

iirc Exocet can be a land attack missile right?

[Firmador]

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid.com/NSDraftroom/ ... opic=10143
1993

"I shall now include EMP rifle grenades for epic lulz!" - Sumer

I now believe in a God...

[Firmador]

@San-Silva

The MM40 Block 3 can

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

"The Block 3 missile accepts GPS guidance system waypoint commands, which allow it to attack naval targets from different angles and to strike land targets, giving it a marginal role as a land-attack missile. The Block 3 Exocet is lighter than the previous MM40 Block 2 Exocet.[8][9]"

[Triplebaconation]

I'm distracted by all the rabbit tracks.

[Krazakistan]

What is the best way (if there is one) to handle a language barrier inside a military if the troops speak either language A or language B? In my case, the languages are Polish and German respectively.

[San-Silvacian]

I'm distracted by all the rabbit tracks.

Huh? ;-;

[Inyourfaceistan]

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=10143
1993

"I shall now include EMP rifle grenades for epic lulz!" - Sumer

I now believe in a God...

Why would you put EMP in rifle grenade?

[Imperializt Russia]

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=10143
1993

"I shall now include EMP rifle grenades for epic lulz!" - Sumer

I now believe in a God...

He is not merciful.

[Triplebaconation]

I'm distracted by all the rabbit tracks.

Huh? ;-;

I've been trying to find the tank for two hours.

[The Akasha Colony]

What is the best way (if there is one) to handle a language barrier inside a military if the troops speak either language A or language B? In my case, the languages are Polish and German respectively.

If socially or politically possible, conduct basic in one of those two languages with all common commands standardized in one language. Even if they don't understand the rest, as long as they can understand at least a basic set of relevant commands, it becomes easier to manage. If at all possible, officers should probably speak both at least on a basic level, and if politically or socially acceptable, segregated units can help. The Austro-Hungarian army was able to make do with much greater language fragmentation, but it required many officers to speak a half-dozen languages and also made them extremely difficult to replace if lost, since that kind of linguistic experience doesn't come easily.

[Rich and Corporations]

Huh? ;-;

I've been trying to find the tank for two hours.

Waldo is the commander of the tank.

[Mitheldalond]

http://z4.invisionfree.invalid.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=10143
1993

"I shall now include EMP rifle grenades for epic lulz!" - Sumer

I now believe in a God...

Why would you put EMP in rifle grenade?

Why would you use rifle grenades in the first place? We have underslung grenade launchers now.

[The Corparation]

Huh? ;-;

I've been trying to find the tank for two hours.

The Tank is a lie. This was all an elaborate prank by Kiev to waste two hours of your time.

[Imperializt Russia]

Why would you put EMP in rifle grenade?

Why would you use rifle grenades in the first place? We have underslung grenade launchers now.

Rifle grenades have the capability for much greater warhead mass, range and accuracy.

[Imperializt Russia]

What is the best way (if there is one) to handle a language barrier inside a military if the troops speak either language A or language B? In my case, the languages are Polish and German respectively.

If socially or politically possible, conduct basic in one of those two languages with all common commands standardized in one language. Even if they don't understand the rest, as long as they can understand at least a basic set of relevant commands, it becomes easier to manage. If at all possible, officers should probably speak both at least on a basic level, and if politically or socially acceptable, segregated units can help. The Austro-Hungarian army was able to make do with much greater language fragmentation, but it required many officers to speak a half-dozen languages and also made them extremely difficult to replace if lost, since that kind of linguistic experience doesn't come easily.

The Soviets had a difficult time of this and apparently didn't really care.
You learnt Russian or you got beaten.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Why would you put EMP in rifle grenade?

Why would you use rifle grenades in the first place? We have underslung grenade launchers now.

Well as opposed to my preferred EMP delivery system which is a modified AGM-158 JASSM with a flux-compression generator warhead.
Conceptually used to f**k up enemy air defenses prior to a ground-attack sortie.

It would be bigger, and therefore capable of fitting more coils which cause the electro-magnetic burst in the first place, and not fired from a distance wherein you are just as likely to mess us your own MANPADS launch as the other guys...

I mean the *rumored* Russian EMP mortar is one thing, but a rifle grenade?

[Imperializt Russia]

A rifle grenade is a lot less weight and bulk to lug around than a disposable rocket launcher tube and munition.

If you're trying to hit a vehicle with a one-two punch in an AT unit with a small RFEMP weapon and then strike it with a killing shot, then carrying lots of RFEMP weapons for little weight is good.