CoPS RP Group Recruitment (FanT/AnyT)

[Thoricia]

I'd personally would like seeing an anti-pony group, but my little time here has shown me that mostly pony players are the only ones who can do it right. Saddening, but so many let OOC stuff get involved.

It's been a problem ever since the CoPS was born. No one ever wanted to just RP pony hatred, they had to channel their beliefs that we were all immature little girls into the mix, so we've never had a decent anti-CoPS group aginst us.

Ok, see here's the thing, the organization can't be just "we hate teh p0niez because we r evulzzzzz", that doesn't work from what I've seen. For this to stand a chance it needs to be a group that promotes humanities right as rulers of the earth not ponies are of bad so they need to die.

Also I've been interacting with pony players for some time and am a member of CoPS as well, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for all of the players here.

Except Lykosia, fuck that guy (/sarcasm)

[YellowApple]

It's been a problem ever since the CoPS was born. No one ever wanted to just RP pony hatred, they had to channel their beliefs that we were all immature little girls into the mix, so we've never had a decent anti-CoPS group aginst us.

Ok, see here's the thing, the organization can't be just "we hate teh p0niez because we r evulzzzzz", that doesn't work from what I've seen. For this to stand a chance it needs to be a group that promotes humanities right as rulers of the earth not ponies are of bad so they need to die.

Also I've been interacting with pony players for some time and am a member of CoPS as well, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for all of the players here.

Except Lykosia, fuck that guy (/sarcasm) :p

Right, but as soon as it's implied that ponies are the nemesis, it'll just attract those whose OOC dislike of ponies is thinly-veiled by "IC" "roleplay", which will result in things like "haha we just massacred a population of pony slaves after abusing them in concentration camps and you can't do anything about it nyah nyah".

While the thought is tempting - as it would introduce a common opponent and give the Pony Lands et. al. good reason to create another CoPS-like alliance and unify against it - it's historically been (as I said) a herculean task to keep it on track and free of immaturity, even when the best of intentions are present in the beginning. It's the same reason why the pro-gay-rights Stonewall Alliance is still up and running while anti-gay-rights alliances have risen and fallen repeatedly over the years, or why the anti-slaver Amistad Declaration signees are still alive and kicking while pro-slaver alliances are short-lived; it's much easier to maintain a cohesive group that RPs well when it operates "for teh justice" instead of "for teh evil", since it doesn't have to work as hard at justifying its own existence.

It would be better to introduce such a group on its own accord, rather than being a nominal opponent of the IC CoPS (or whatever has taken its place / will take its place). Balance things out a bit by opposing other non-humans. Search for solid in-character reasoning for why such a group would exist based on the canonical representations of the groups you're opposing (that last part being another common failing of anti-pony groups specifically; there have been multiple cases of such groups and/or the members thereof basing their existence upon their own superficial assumptions of ponies instead of referring to existing RP material and seeing what they actually are capable of, thus leading to things like "hah ponies are pathetic and weak and worthless" despite numerous RPs demonstrating the precise opposite).

[Thoricia]

Ok, see here's the thing, the organization can't be just "we hate teh p0niez because we r evulzzzzz", that doesn't work from what I've seen. For this to stand a chance it needs to be a group that promotes humanities right as rulers of the earth not ponies are of bad so they need to die.

Also I've been interacting with pony players for some time and am a member of CoPS as well, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for all of the players here.

Except Lykosia, fuck that guy (/sarcasm)

Right, but as soon as it's implied that ponies are the nemesis, it'll just attract those whose OOC dislike of ponies is thinly-veiled by "IC" "roleplay", which will result in things like "haha we just massacred a population of pony slaves after abusing them in concentration camps and you can't do anything about it nyah nyah".

While the thought is tempting - as it would introduce a common opponent and give the Pony Lands et. al. good reason to create another CoPS-like alliance and unify against it - it's historically been (as I said) a herculean task to keep it on track and free of immaturity, even when the best of intentions are present in the beginning. It's the same reason why the pro-gay-rights Stonewall Alliance is still up and running while anti-gay-rights alliances have risen and fallen repeatedly over the years, or why the anti-slaver Amistad Declaration signees are still alive and kicking while pro-slaver alliances are short-lived; it's much easier to maintain a cohesive group that RPs well when it operates "for teh justice" instead of "for teh evil", since it doesn't have to work as hard at justifying its own existence.

It would be better to introduce such a group on its own accord, rather than being a nominal opponent of the IC CoPS (or whatever has taken its place / will take its place). Balance things out a bit by opposing other non-humans. Search for solid in-character reasoning for why such a group would exist based on the canonical representations of the groups you're opposing (that last part being another common failing of anti-pony groups specifically; there have been multiple cases of such groups and/or the members thereof basing their existence upon their own superficial assumptions of ponies instead of referring to existing RP material and seeing what they actually are capable of, thus leading to things like "hah ponies are pathetic and weak and worthless" despite numerous RPs demonstrating the precise opposite).

Right, and I understand that, which is why I am more inclined to recruit/solicit interest from players here as well as an extensive vetting process done with multiple pony/furry nations reviewing the applicants.

[Holy Marsh]

If there was some Human Supremacy group out there there are some older puppets I could toss in. In any case, the real key as someone said earlier would be to make it concerned with human supremacy across the board, not just anti-pony, and the leader would need to maintain a tight grip on the difference between OOC and IC.

[Frenequesta]

I'm not technically a member, but I have some ideas to contribute to the discussion.

First off, why don't we turn the tables and have a pony supremacist group a la the old Time Alliance come to power in one of our nations, and have both some of our pony nations condemn this new regime and others endorse it, with outside nations forming reactionary groups against this group, some of which are really just an anti-pony front to begin with? Granted, it'll cause division in the Pony Lands, and virtually all of us are already too tolerant of humans, making any endorsement seem out-of-character, but it will at least make the diplomatic dynamics more interesting.

Alternatively, I am thinking that one way to separate the trolls from the genuine RPers is to require the anti-pony hatred based off not ponies themselves but on cultural aspects unique to them. (I have Harmonism in mind.) This should ideally force anti-pony groups/actors to actually do their research on ponies and not let raw prejudices color their actions.

(And if I need an application to be heard, here it is:)

Nation Name: The Social Republic and Scientific Collectives of Frenequesta
Why do you want to RP with CoPS?: Admittedly, it's because using ponies to RP "normal" diplomatic volleys (e.g. wars, treaties, etc.) is more fun and interesting than with ordinary humans (even if more scientifically advanced). Then again, I do enjoy the particular people that RP here, both very friendly and for the most part, playfully serious about their work.

Please link us to Some RP Samples you have: Some Samples, (mostly) pony-related.

Please link us to any factbook or NSwiki page about your nation: Le voilà

What are some RP ideas you have? How active do you think you would be in CoPS? I already run the Equestrian Language Institute and am hoping that my membership will help recruitment efforts, enough to have a serious meeting of Equestrian-speaking nations. Alternatively, I can see myself participating in some sort of magic-technology exchange convention where nations can show off how they exploit pony magic into advanced technologies. And a few good domestic land disputes, as long as it doesn't get too bloody.

[Shrillland]

You don't need to be a member to be heard, but I'll support your entry.

[YellowApple]

First off, why don't we turn the tables and have a pony supremacist group

Working on one as we speak, though it's doubtful that it'd come into power in YellowApplan jurisdiction.

[Alduinium]

Right, but as soon as it's implied that ponies are the nemesis, it'll just attract those whose OOC dislike of ponies is thinly-veiled by "IC" "roleplay", which will result in things like "haha we just massacred a population of pony slaves after abusing them in concentration camps and you can't do anything about it nyah nyah".

While the thought is tempting - as it would introduce a common opponent and give the Pony Lands et. al. good reason to create another CoPS-like alliance and unify against it - it's historically been (as I said) a herculean task to keep it on track and free of immaturity, even when the best of intentions are present in the beginning. It's the same reason why the pro-gay-rights Stonewall Alliance is still up and running while anti-gay-rights alliances have risen and fallen repeatedly over the years, or why the anti-slaver Amistad Declaration signees are still alive and kicking while pro-slaver alliances are short-lived; it's much easier to maintain a cohesive group that RPs well when it operates "for teh justice" instead of "for teh evil", since it doesn't have to work as hard at justifying its own existence.

It would be better to introduce such a group on its own accord, rather than being a nominal opponent of the IC CoPS (or whatever has taken its place / will take its place). Balance things out a bit by opposing other non-humans. Search for solid in-character reasoning for why such a group would exist based on the canonical representations of the groups you're opposing (that last part being another common failing of anti-pony groups specifically; there have been multiple cases of such groups and/or the members thereof basing their existence upon their own superficial assumptions of ponies instead of referring to existing RP material and seeing what they actually are capable of, thus leading to things like "hah ponies are pathetic and weak and worthless" despite numerous RPs demonstrating the precise opposite).

Right, and I understand that, which is why I am more inclined to recruit/solicit interest from players here as well as an extensive vetting process done with multiple pony/furry nations reviewing the applicants.

Hrm, I would be interested in this (using a puppet, of course), but I will not join unless there is strict control over who gets in and who doesn't, as well as making sure OOC hate is kept to a minimum.

[Thoricia]

I'm not technically a member, but I have some ideas to contribute to the discussion.

First off, why don't we turn the tables and have a pony supremacist group a la the old Time Alliance come to power in one of our nations, and have both some of our pony nations condemn this new regime and others endorse it, with outside nations forming reactionary groups against this group, some of which are really just an anti-pony front to begin with? Granted, it'll cause division in the Pony Lands, and virtually all of us are already too tolerant of humans, making any endorsement seem out-of-character, but it will at least make the diplomatic dynamics more interesting.

Alternatively, I am thinking that one way to separate the trolls from the genuine RPers is to require the anti-pony hatred based off not ponies themselves but on cultural aspects unique to them. (I have Harmonism in mind.) This should ideally force anti-pony groups/actors to actually do their research on ponies and not let raw prejudices color their actions.

(And if I need an application to be heard, here it is:)

Nation Name: The Social Republic and Scientific Collectives of Frenequesta
Why do you want to RP with CoPS?: Admittedly, it's because using ponies to RP "normal" diplomatic volleys (e.g. wars, treaties, etc.) is more fun and interesting than with ordinary humans (even if more scientifically advanced). Then again, I do enjoy the particular people that RP here, both very friendly and for the most part, playfully serious about their work.

Please link us to Some RP Samples you have: Some Samples, (mostly) pony-related.

Please link us to any factbook or NSwiki page about your nation: Le voilà

What are some RP ideas you have? How active do you think you would be in CoPS? I already run the Equestrian Language Institute and am hoping that my membership will help recruitment efforts, enough to have a serious meeting of Equestrian-speaking nations. Alternatively, I can see myself participating in some sort of magic-technology exchange convention where nations can show off how they exploit pony magic into advanced technologies. And a few good domestic land disputes, as long as it doesn't get too bloody.

At, I support your admission as well, your RP samples are exquisite and your insight is informative and helpful, I'll make sure I stab Kour on the IRC to fully review.

[Crystal Spires]

I am taking a health hiatus, may not be on until Friday, much longer than I expected.

I will try and keep up with you all <3

[Shrillland]

I am taking a health hiatus, may not be on until Friday, much longer than I expected.

I will try and keep up with you all <3

It's OK Spires, you just worry about getting better.

[Holy Marsh]

Pony Supremacist group might be interesting to run. Would allow me to tweak Akila a bit.

[Sinovet]

You know, Yellow Apple got me thinking. If they work by aerial nomadic routes, perhaps I might create a similar nation of peoples that operate on an aquatic basis.

[Zeparagos]

You know, Yellow Apple got me thinking. If they work by aerial nomadic routes, perhaps I might create a similar nation of peoples that operate on an aquatic basis.

Something, like this nation perhaps.

(PS: It's me, SInovet)

[The Ctan]

I am taking a health hiatus, may not be on until Friday, much longer than I expected.

I will try and keep up with you all <3

This may cheer you up: Revenant Worlds Returns 21st November and character update/recap session 14th.

I aim to run about once or twice a month after that.

[YellowApple]

You know, Yellow Apple got me thinking. If they work by aerial nomadic routes, perhaps I might create a similar nation of peoples that operate on an aquatic basis.

That would be interesting indeed (though it's worth clarifying that not all YellowApplans are nomadic nowadays, given the stationary nature of Drop Point and the now-consistent orbital pattern of Manzanopolis Prime, on top of the various surface colonies on various celestial bodies).

When I was first envisioning YellowApple as a nation, I had originally planned on elaborate truck-cities that would roam around deserts and other inhospitable places during the night, then setup camp and recharge on solar energy during the day. I don't remember why I ended up going with airship-cities instead...

I am taking a health hiatus, may not be on until Friday, much longer than I expected.

I will try and keep up with you all <3

:hug:

Get better, dangit! :)

[Lolloh]

Hm... well, I certainly think this sounds pretty good. It'd allow some pretty interesting RPing. I'd volunteer to have a human-supremacist movement, since humans are the worst-treated ethnicity in my country.

I'd propose some ideas, but they've all been said, more or less, so I'll just go along with the ride and join if this RP become reality.

Of course, if you guys would be willing to accept me...

Edit: I also have some pro-pony factions, if you want. I've got a tiny (150k) breakaway republic that's fanatically pro-(earth)pony, and another puppet that I could also make along the same lines. I could probably introduce some religion akin to protestantism (no pope/central authority, etc.) or lutherism that would mandate some pretty strict stuff...

so, yeah, my point being that, if you need some radicals, I'd be happy to provide some, and it's about time I deployed my military to at least a few small skirmishes.

[Lykosia]

So guys, Rohane Alista is currently opening an RP about a religious fundamentalist rebellion against the RA government, so you may want to try to take a look and apply

[Tentaklia]

There's a group that has been mentioned in passing in earlier role-plays called The Messengers of Tentaklos. They're a fringe sect who believe that their leader, Samuel Sullivan, is the new prophet of Tentaklos since Sah Rimnir has become unworthy. They've also got some... interesting re-interpretations of the words of Tentaklos. While Tentaklos through Sah Rimnir has declared that all people are equal, Samuel Sullivan has stated that only humans count as people.

So yeah, there is a human supremacist group in Tentaklia. The government is trying to stamp them out, but those guys are sneaky.

[Thoricia]

So, human supremascist group, y/n?

[Princess Luna]

New Harmony OOC

Hi, I’m now able to commit the time and resources to run the previously discussed Elements of Harmony arc and new Mane 6, as previously discussed back in 2012 or so. Those of you who’re on the IRC have probably heard me discuss this before, it is essentially a character RP for a group of characters who will be essentially taking over as the ‘Mane 6’ in bearing the Elements of Harmony, at Princess Luna’s instigation, to wield these artefacts in dealing with several current menaces.

Plot
Some years ago (approximately 13 by some timelines?) the Elements of Harmony were placed back within the Tree of Harmony, located in the Everfree Forest in Equestria. Now, with the emergence of several new threats and challenges, Princess Luna seeks to have them once again, and has several problems that she believes can only be cured by the use of the Elements of Harmony.

Two of these revolve around or are related to our old friend Crystal Spires, the first involves the cruelly unnatural petrification of thousands of Spireans decades ago, who have been frozen in place in a way that tortures them, while several options have been explored to undo this, none can do so with a speed that compares to the Elements of Harmony.

Another persistent issue is the demise of Maven Auryn of Crystal Spires, whose health has been declining considerably, as he is possessed by the entity Zaiden, which feeds from his innocence, causing him to die (and corrupting his mind and spirit in doing so) from a myriad of diseases, to stem this effect, Luna has bound her own soul to Maven Auryn’s, and due to this, she herself is dying, though far more slowly than Maven (her own resistance to such things is greater), she needs to have someone deal with the situation in a way that will finally end it, or ultimately perish herself, and hopes that the power of the Elements of Harmony can be used to address the very root of the problem itself.

Meanwhile, in the North Pony Lands, in the nation of Hippocratia, comes the devastating rise of the evil lord Grogar and the Black Castle of Tamberlon. Five hundred years ago, Grogar fought Princess Celestia, and was cast into the depth of the domain of shadows, where he has languished since, bound beyond the world, and, acting upon the medieval prophecies of Celestia, the Hippocratians have prepared for his return; but it has not happened, and the Dark Lord’s fortress has remained banished, worse still the nation has been gripped with strife, at first in explicable ways, but leading more toward dangerously irrational ways, and there have been hundreds of mysterious disappearances in the region, south of the Amber Valley, where the Black Castle once stood. Sensing a terrible disturbance in the night, Luna has sent her boldest agents to investigate, and their reports are disturbing, and she fears that he has grown in power since his banishment, and that only the Elements of Harmony will now be able to overcome him.

The characters will need to make dangerous and secretive journeys into the heart of the terrible Everfree Forest, to search for the Tree of Harmony (Luna could arrange for this to happen faster, but she hopes the dangerous quest will result in friendship forming among the group in order to allow them to actually succeed at the end of their journey) and to retrieve them, then deal with each of the problems outlined above.

Involved NPC nations

Hippocratia – Princess Luna/The Ctan (I’ve previously used it for some RP but not proper RP of this nature before)
Tamberlon – Princess Luna/The Ctan (Grogar’s Realm)
Shining Equestria – Crystal Spires (as a standin for the Everfree Forest bits)


Map Amendment
From some discussion with Kouralia, he seems happy with the soon-to-be-devastated realm of Hippocratia being located here, I’ve not discussed it with other neighbours, but I’m hoping neither Poni nor Freet have objections.

Organization

From previous discussions, Crystal Spires and I are looking to co-GM this, with both of us posting the “NPCs” and various antagonists, naturally, given that it involves the Elements of Harmony, we are aiming for six characters, though theoretically we can double up on players.

As the characters will initially be approached by Princess Luna, and are to be entrusted with one of the most sacred aspects of the Harmonist faith, they are required to be harmonists. While, in-character, species as entirely irrelevant to Luna as gender and eye colour are, it’d be much more in keeping with the original show for most characters to be ponies, or races that appear in MLP. If we get more than six characters, then hopefully someone will be willing to play spike-esque supporting characters.

Ideally, given the show’s provenance, at least half of the characters should be female, likewise, and naturally, all should be original characters.

Rather than posting a character sheet, can I ask initially who’s interested?

[Alduinium]

I would be interested.

[Frenequesta]

Rather than posting a character sheet, can I ask initially who’s interested?

Well, once I get formally accepted, I'd be more than interested.

...by the way, what's the status on that?

[Princess Luna]

As all the co-ops are either busy or lazy, I'm going to go out on a hoof and say you're accepted. They can post objections if they feel strongly about it.

That said, you're accepted for this RP, no matter what.

[Legokiller]

I'm interested in the new harmony rp.