Excellent. I look forward to the bills presentation in the Senate, and hope for its subsequent passage.
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by Polvia » Sun May 05, 2013 1:18 pm
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by Soviet Canuckistan » Sun May 05, 2013 1:31 pm
by Unicario » Sun May 05, 2013 1:35 pm
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:All the senators who oppose the firearms act right now, you do realize the bill can be amended.
by Tzarsgrad » Sun May 05, 2013 1:37 pm
by Shrillland » Sun May 05, 2013 1:39 pm
Tzarsgrad wrote:I vote against the new measure.
by Irredento » Sun May 05, 2013 1:51 pm
by Mishmahig » Sun May 05, 2013 1:52 pm
Irredento wrote:This attempt by the TR to take away the people's right to bear arms is disgusting and has absolutely no chance of being passed. It is opposed by both the far-left and the far-right as well as the libertarians and many of the centrists.
Should it be passed, I have just one thing to say to the government: come and take it!
by Yankee Empire » Sun May 05, 2013 1:55 pm
Mishmahig wrote:Irredento wrote:This attempt by the TR to take away the people's right to bear arms is disgusting and has absolutely no chance of being passed. It is opposed by both the far-left and the far-right as well as the libertarians and many of the centrists.
Should it be passed, I have just one thing to say to the government: come and take it!
That would be rebellion, Senator.
by Diopolis » Sun May 05, 2013 1:55 pm
Irredento wrote:This attempt by the TR to take away the people's right to bear arms is disgusting and has absolutely no chance of being passed. It is opposed by both the far-left and the far-right as well as the libertarians and many of the centrists.
Should it be passed, I have just one thing to say to the government: come and take it!
by Yankee Empire » Sun May 05, 2013 1:56 pm
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:All the senators who oppose the firearms act right now, you do realize the bill can be amended.
by Yankee Empire » Sun May 05, 2013 1:58 pm
by Mishmahig » Sun May 05, 2013 2:00 pm
Yankee Empire wrote:Mishmahig wrote:
The government would then put down said rebellion, expelling the Senators who joined, advocated, or called for the rebellion.
So in other words those of us who oppose it would be barred and then all the anti-gun folks can circlejerk in this senate all by themselves? Oh im sure that would be interesting...
Half/more than half the government would be opposed to it, so who would put it down?
by The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 2:02 pm
Mishmahig wrote:Yankee Empire wrote:So in other words those of us who oppose it would be barred and then all the anti-gun folks can circlejerk in this senate all by themselves? Oh im sure that would be interesting...
Half/more than half the government would be opposed to it, so who would put it down?
A more reasonable thing would be to fight this democratically, Senator, rather than making foolish and inflammatory comments about fighting this in the streets, and advocating armed rebellion should it pass.
I also object to your chairman's labeling of all gun control advocates as "pigdogs".
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by Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 2:02 pm
Mishmahig wrote:Yankee Empire wrote:So in other words those of us who oppose it would be barred and then all the anti-gun folks can circlejerk in this senate all by themselves? Oh im sure that would be interesting...
Half/more than half the government would be opposed to it, so who would put it down?
A more reasonable thing would be to fight this democratically, Senator, rather than making foolish and inflammatory comments about fighting this in the streets, and advocating armed rebellion should it pass.
I also object to your chairman's labeling of all gun control advocates as "pigdogs".
by Ovisterra » Sun May 05, 2013 2:04 pm
Hathradic States wrote:Mishmahig wrote:
A more reasonable thing would be to fight this democratically, Senator, rather than making foolish and inflammatory comments about fighting this in the streets, and advocating armed rebellion should it pass.
I also object to your chairman's labeling of all gun control advocates as "pigdogs".
And we consistently object to your party's use of the word "fascists" to describe us an other hard-right parties.
by Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 2:05 pm
Ovisterra wrote:Hathradic States wrote:And we consistently object to your party's use of the word "fascists" to describe us an other hard-right parties.
Our party consistently objects to such labels too. We said as much during a discussion in our HQ thread. The TRs do not stoop to insults, and any member who does is acting against the party norm.
by Agritum » Sun May 05, 2013 2:06 pm
Ovisterra wrote:Hathradic States wrote:And we consistently object to your party's use of the word "fascists" to describe us an other hard-right parties.
Our party consistently objects to such labels too. We said as much during a discussion in our HQ thread. The TRs do not stoop to insults, and any member who does is acting against the party norm.
by Ragnarum » Sun May 05, 2013 2:07 pm
by Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 2:09 pm
Agritum wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
Our party consistently objects to such labels too. We said as much during a discussion in our HQ thread. The TRs do not stoop to insults, and any member who does is acting against the party norm.
On behalf of e party, I would also apologize for the name of our bill pack. We were dtill deali with the emotional aftershocks of Divair's resignation.
by Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 2:10 pm
Agritum wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
Our party consistently objects to such labels too. We said as much during a discussion in our HQ thread. The TRs do not stoop to insults, and any member who does is acting against the party norm.
On behalf of e party, I would also apologize for the name of our bill pack. We were dtill deali with the emotional aftershocks of Divair's resignation.
by Ovisterra » Sun May 05, 2013 2:10 pm
Hathradic States wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
Our party consistently objects to such labels too. We said as much during a discussion in our HQ thread. The TRs do not stoop to insults, and any member who does is acting against the party norm.
Clearly your leadership is acting against the norm here, then.
by Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 2:12 pm
Ovisterra wrote:Hathradic States wrote:Clearly your leadership is acting against the norm here, then.
We don't have leadership, at the moment. We're currently moving to elect a new chairperson. The party, you must remember, is not a dictatorship or a hivemind. It is made up of individual people who sometimes do things the party as a whole would usually reject.
I call your attention to this.
by Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 2:13 pm
Arglorand wrote:Agritum wrote:On behalf of e party, I would also apologize for the name of our bill pack. We were dtill deali with the emotional aftershocks of Divair's resignation.
On behalf of myself, I apologize for having termed the bill pack thus.
The party has nothing to do with it, t'was my doing. I also would like to note that I am not the party's leader. I have never aspired to be one.
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