We should really have a speaker for this senate elected in order to set things right.
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by Imperiatom » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:03 am
by Old Tyrannia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:49 am
Bleckonia wrote:I will vote for the Monarchist bill IF the red clauses are struck out:Bill for the Establishment of a National Head of State
When, in the course of national events, it becomes necessary to establish an executive officer to act in the stead of the people as the representative of their interests in foreign realms, to act as their protector and to enact the policies of their duly elected representatives, this body has seen fit to establish the title of His or Her Majesty the King or Queen, and invest in this person the sovereignty of our state, as the living embodiment of the nation and first servant of its people.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to provide for the calling forth of the armed forces and will be entrusted with all the powers of the commander in chief of the armed forces.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to veto any act of the Senate not achieving a two-thirds majority, which shall then be reviewed by the Senate.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to act in behalf of the people in foreign realms and to receive and treat with foreign envoys.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to appoint envoys to foreign realms and organizations with the approval of the senate.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to enforce actions of the senate with appropriate force.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to abdicate at such a time that he finds himself unable to carry out his duties.
The Sovereign shall be empowered to select a designated heir, who shall be allowed to use the title of Crown Prince or Princess, and shall be formally adopted by the reigning sovereign so that the next monarch is in theory the son or daughter of the preceding monarch.
The Sovereign shall be styled as "His/Her Majesty" and addressed as "Your Majesty", and henceforth as "Sire/Highness", and his designated heir should be styled "His/Her Highness", and addressed as "Your Highness", and henceforth as "Sir/Madame".
Upon the death of the Sovereign, His or Her Majesty's successor must be elected by a plurality of the fully convened Senate.
By convention, the Senate shall elect as monarch the previous monarch's designated heir and adoptive son/daughter, however each Party may if it wishes nominate an alternative candidate and the Senate may choose to elect an alternative candidate and thus establish a new royal house and dynasty if it believes the designated heir to the throne is unsuitable.
Following the presentation of the candidates, the Senate shall recess for a proper period to consider the candidates at the end of which, each senator will be given the opportunity to cast his or her vote in favour of any of the candidates.
The Senate reserves the right to proclaim a ruling monarch unfit to rule and therefore force his or her immediate and involuntary abdication and begin a new election for the next monarch. Such a motion requires a majority of two thirds or more in the Senate.
by Gordano and Lysandus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:53 am
by Fulflood » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:27 am
Straight male British apatheist pacifist environmentalist social liberal
by Agritum » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:29 am
Fulflood wrote:Great Nepal wrote:Yes, it ended yesterday and despite is flaws, it passed, setting this nation back decades.
That's true fellow Senator, because we would be in so much of a better, less backward place with no form of collecting revenue and therefore no money with which to enforce or make policy.
by Imperiatom » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:57 am
Fulflood wrote:Great Nepal wrote:Yes, it ended yesterday and despite is flaws, it passed, setting this nation back decades.
That's true fellow Senator, because we would be in so much of a better, less backward place with no form of collecting revenue and therefore no money with which to enforce or make policy.
by Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:39 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/
by Great Nepal » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:39 pm
Bodily Sovereignty Act
Urgency: Urgent| Drafted by: Great Nepal
This senate recognises self ownership and sovereignty of the individual as one of fundamental and inalienable rights held equally by all non-convicted men, women and children. Upholding principles held by philosophers William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson, this senate enacts bodily sovereignty act (henceforth referred to as the act). For purposes of this act and future proposals following definitions have been utilized,
Person shall be defined as "a human being regarded as an individual".
Indivudal shall be defined as "a single human being as distinct from a group".
Human being shall be defined as "a man, woman, third gender or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance".
Child shall be defined as "a young human being from age of zero to legal age of majority which shall be defined by latter legislation".
Man shall be defined as "adult human with biological gender as male".
Woman shall be defined for this act as "adult human with biological gender as female".
By the powers vested in it, by the people and constitution, this senate hereby grants every non-convicted indivudal with sound mind, certain inalienable rights, unless their action are deemed hazardous to non-consenting indivudal or they are deemed to not be of sound mind by professional examining body. These rights shall fall under umbrella term of "bodily sovereignty rights". These rights are as follows:-
- Self defence: If an indivudal is threatened with injury to their life or limb, or loss of bodily materials by actions of third party which may or may not be an indivudal, they shall be able to engage in self defence to neutralise the said threat by using all necessary force.
- Reproductive rights: An indivudal will have final authority regarding their reproductive organs, sexual actions and reproduction provided, all indivudal involved in said act have provided informed consent to said act.
- End of life: An indivudal shall have final authority regarding their end of life decisions and shall be able to end their own lives without fear of legal consequences. This senate shall make no laws that may criminalise suicide of any kind unless it causes direct harm to indivudal who has not provided informed consent.
- Consumption: Indivudal shall have final authority on what they input into their bodies unless it is required as material evidence in a court of law. It must be made clear that this does not apply to recreational drugs, which shall be handled by future legislation in this senate.
- Medical treatment: Indivudal shall be able to refuse medical treatment should they see fit unless it is required as material evidence in court of law. Refusal to accept medical treatment however shall be a valid reason to quarantine an indivudal, if it is professional opinion that disease they carry is highly contagious and hazardous to public.
by Cosara » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:44 pm
Great Nepal wrote:Since Bodily Sovereignty Act reached enough support in coffee shop, I would like to submit this to be put in queue for debate in the floor.Bodily Sovereignty Act
Urgency: Urgent| Drafted by: Great Nepal
This senate recognises self ownership and sovereignty of the individual as one of fundamental and inalienable rights held equally by all non-convicted men, women and children. Upholding principles held by philosophers William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson, this senate enacts bodily sovereignty act (henceforth referred to as the act). For purposes of this act and future proposals following definitions have been utilized,
Person shall be defined as "a human being regarded as an individual".
Indivudal shall be defined as "a single human being as distinct from a group".
Human being shall be defined as "a man, woman, third gender or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance".
Child shall be defined as "a young human being from age of zero to legal age of majority which shall be defined by latter legislation".
Man shall be defined as "adult human with biological gender as male".
Woman shall be defined for this act as "adult human with biological gender as female".
By the powers vested in it, by the people and constitution, this senate hereby grants every non-convicted indivudal with sound mind, certain inalienable rights, unless their action are deemed hazardous to non-consenting indivudal or they are deemed to not be of sound mind by professional examining body. These rights shall fall under umbrella term of "bodily sovereignty rights". These rights are as follows:-
- Self defence: If an indivudal is threatened with injury to their life or limb, or loss of bodily materials by actions of third party which may or may not be an indivudal, they shall be able to engage in self defence to neutralise the said threat by using all necessary force.
- Reproductive rights: An indivudal will have final authority regarding their reproductive organs, sexual actions and reproduction provided, all indivudal involved in said act have provided informed consent to said act.
- End of life: An indivudal shall have final authority regarding their end of life decisions and shall be able to end their own lives without fear of legal consequences. This senate shall make no laws that may criminalise suicide of any kind unless it causes direct harm to indivudal who has not provided informed consent.
- Consumption: Indivudal shall have final authority on what they input into their bodies unless it is required as material evidence in a court of law. It must be made clear that this does not apply to recreational drugs, which shall be handled by future legislation in this senate.
- Medical treatment: Indivudal shall be able to refuse medical treatment should they see fit unless it is required as material evidence in court of law. Refusal to accept medical treatment however shall be a valid reason to quarantine an indivudal, if it is professional opinion that disease they carry is highly contagious and hazardous to public.
by Fulflood » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:48 pm
Cosara wrote:Great Nepal wrote:Since Bodily Sovereignty Act reached enough support in coffee shop, I would like to submit this to be put in queue for debate in the floor.Bodily Sovereignty Act
Urgency: Urgent| Drafted by: Great Nepal
This senate recognises self ownership and sovereignty of the individual as one of fundamental and inalienable rights held equally by all non-convicted men, women and children. Upholding principles held by philosophers William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson, this senate enacts bodily sovereignty act (henceforth referred to as the act). For purposes of this act and future proposals following definitions have been utilized,
Person shall be defined as "a human being regarded as an individual".
Indivudal shall be defined as "a single human being as distinct from a group".
Human being shall be defined as "a man, woman, third gender or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance".
Child shall be defined as "a young human being from age of zero to legal age of majority which shall be defined by latter legislation".
Man shall be defined as "adult human with biological gender as male".
Woman shall be defined for this act as "adult human with biological gender as female".
By the powers vested in it, by the people and constitution, this senate hereby grants every non-convicted indivudal with sound mind, certain inalienable rights, unless their action are deemed hazardous to non-consenting indivudal or they are deemed to not be of sound mind by professional examining body. These rights shall fall under umbrella term of "bodily sovereignty rights". These rights are as follows:-
- Self defence: If an indivudal is threatened with injury to their life or limb, or loss of bodily materials by actions of third party which may or may not be an indivudal, they shall be able to engage in self defence to neutralise the said threat by using all necessary force.
- Reproductive rights: An indivudal will have final authority regarding their reproductive organs, sexual actions and reproduction provided, all indivudal involved in said act have provided informed consent to said act.
- End of life: An indivudal shall have final authority regarding their end of life decisions and shall be able to end their own lives without fear of legal consequences. This senate shall make no laws that may criminalise suicide of any kind unless it causes direct harm to indivudal who has not provided informed consent.
- Consumption: Indivudal shall have final authority on what they input into their bodies unless it is required as material evidence in a court of law. It must be made clear that this does not apply to recreational drugs, which shall be handled by future legislation in this senate.
- Medical treatment: Indivudal shall be able to refuse medical treatment should they see fit unless it is required as material evidence in court of law. Refusal to accept medical treatment however shall be a valid reason to quarantine an indivudal, if it is professional opinion that disease they carry is highly contagious and hazardous to public.
I oppose this if the :Reproductive Rights" part legalizes Abortion.
Straight male British apatheist pacifist environmentalist social liberal
by Great Nepal » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:51 pm
by Fulflood » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:54 pm
Great Nepal wrote:Fulflood wrote:
I think we need a happy compromise on abortion, like 20-25 weeks.
EDIT: If that's what the section is saying, which I'm not sure it is or should be.
Intention of that part is to ensure everyone has control of their reproductive organs. However, I believe we should not discuss proposal that isn't on floor but on queue.
Straight male British apatheist pacifist environmentalist social liberal
by Urumgard » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:59 pm
Great Nepal wrote:Since Bodily Sovereignty Act reached enough support in coffee shop, I would like to submit this to be put in queue for debate in the floor.Bodily Sovereignty Act
Urgency: Urgent| Drafted by: Great Nepal
This senate recognises self ownership and sovereignty of the individual as one of fundamental and inalienable rights held equally by all non-convicted men, women and children. Upholding principles held by philosophers William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson, this senate enacts bodily sovereignty act (henceforth referred to as the act). For purposes of this act and future proposals following definitions have been utilized,
Person shall be defined as "a human being regarded as an individual".
Indivudal shall be defined as "a single human being as distinct from a group".
Human being shall be defined as "a man, woman, third gender or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance".
Child shall be defined as "a young human being from age of zero to legal age of majority which shall be defined by latter legislation".
Man shall be defined as "adult human with biological gender as male".
Woman shall be defined for this act as "adult human with biological gender as female".
By the powers vested in it, by the people and constitution, this senate hereby grants every non-convicted indivudal with sound mind, certain inalienable rights, unless their action are deemed hazardous to non-consenting indivudal or they are deemed to not be of sound mind by professional examining body. These rights shall fall under umbrella term of "bodily sovereignty rights". These rights are as follows:-
- Self defence: If an indivudal is threatened with injury to their life or limb, or loss of bodily materials by actions of third party which may or may not be an indivudal, they shall be able to engage in self defence to neutralise the said threat by using all necessary force.
- Reproductive rights: An indivudal will have final authority regarding their reproductive organs, sexual actions and reproduction provided, all indivudal involved in said act have provided informed consent to said act.
- End of life: An indivudal shall have final authority regarding their end of life decisions and shall be able to end their own lives without fear of legal consequences. This senate shall make no laws that may criminalise suicide of any kind unless it causes direct harm to indivudal who has not provided informed consent.
- Consumption: Indivudal shall have final authority on what they input into their bodies unless it is required as material evidence in a court of law. It must be made clear that this does not apply to recreational drugs, which shall be handled by future legislation in this senate.
- Medical treatment: Indivudal shall be able to refuse medical treatment should they see fit unless it is required as material evidence in court of law. Refusal to accept medical treatment however shall be a valid reason to quarantine an indivudal, if it is professional opinion that disease they carry is highly contagious and hazardous to public.
by Wolfmanne » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:01 pm
Great Nepal wrote:Since Bodily Sovereignty Act reached enough support in coffee shop, I would like to submit this to be put in queue for debate in the floor.Bodily Sovereignty Act
Urgency: Urgent| Drafted by: Great Nepal
This senate recognises self ownership and sovereignty of the individual as one of fundamental and inalienable rights held equally by all non-convicted men, women and children. Upholding principles held by philosophers William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson, this senate enacts bodily sovereignty act (henceforth referred to as the act). For purposes of this act and future proposals following definitions have been utilized,
Person shall be defined as "a human being regarded as an individual".
Indivudal shall be defined as "a single human being as distinct from a group".
Human being shall be defined as "a man, woman, third gender or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance".
Child shall be defined as "a young human being from age of zero to legal age of majority which shall be defined by latter legislation".
Man shall be defined as "adult human with biological gender as male".
Woman shall be defined for this act as "adult human with biological gender as female".
By the powers vested in it, by the people and constitution, this senate hereby grants every non-convicted indivudal with sound mind, certain inalienable rights, unless their action are deemed hazardous to non-consenting indivudal or they are deemed to not be of sound mind by professional examining body. These rights shall fall under umbrella term of "bodily sovereignty rights". These rights are as follows:-
- Self defence: If an indivudal is threatened with injury to their life or limb, or loss of bodily materials by actions of third party which may or may not be an indivudal, they shall be able to engage in self defence to neutralise the said threat by using all necessary force.
- Reproductive rights: An indivudal will have final authority regarding their reproductive organs, sexual actions and reproduction provided, all indivudal involved in said act have provided informed consent to said act.
- End of life: An indivudal shall have final authority regarding their end of life decisions and shall be able to end their own lives without fear of legal consequences. This senate shall make no laws that may criminalise suicide of any kind unless it causes direct harm to indivudal who has not provided informed consent.
- Consumption: Indivudal shall have final authority on what they input into their bodies unless it is required as material evidence in a court of law. It must be made clear that this does not apply to recreational drugs, which shall be handled by future legislation in this senate.
- Medical treatment: Indivudal shall be able to refuse medical treatment should they see fit unless it is required as material evidence in court of law. Refusal to accept medical treatment however shall be a valid reason to quarantine an indivudal, if it is professional opinion that disease they carry is highly contagious and hazardous to public.
by Finium » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:15 pm
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:So, has the voting begun?
by Old Tyrannia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:16 pm
by Trotskylvania » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:28 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:I request that the Senate refrains from debating a bill that is currently in queue. The Senate's full attention should be focused on the issue currently being debated.
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by Regnum Dominae » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:29 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:I request that the Senate refrains from debating a bill that is currently in queue. The Senate's full attention should be focused on the issue currently being debated.
We haven't heard any statements on the matter of monarchy or republic for sometime now. Are we ready to close debate and move to a vote?
by Old Tyrannia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:30 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:I request that the Senate refrains from debating a bill that is currently in queue. The Senate's full attention should be focused on the issue currently being debated.
We haven't heard any statements on the matter of monarchy or republic for sometime now. Are we ready to close debate and move to a vote?
by Gordano and Lysandus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:33 pm
by Wolfmanne » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:38 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Having been fifthed, I bring an alternative executive bill, the Republican Executive Act, to the queueTrotskylvania wrote:
Resolved: Since there is no tradition of monarchy here in our nation, it is pointless to establish one. Rather, we would consider it much more fruitful to establish the NSG State as a pluralist, democratic republic, and to that end we proposes establishing an executive that shall take into account the necessity of coalition building.
Be it enacted by the Senate of NSG, a constitutional bill to establish the executive offices of state:
I. The executive power of the NSG state shall be vested in a President and a Council of Ministers
- A. The President shall be the Head of State, elected by the Senate in a two-round system, in which the top two candidates from the first round shall be voted one.
- B. The President shall serve a term of two months, renewable once.
- C. The President may be removed by the Senate for official misconduct or disability by a vote of 2/3rds of the Senate.
- D. Upon the death of the President, the Senate shall elect a new president to a new 2 month term.
- E. The President shall have the following powers:
- - 1. Remand/veto a bill to the Senate if it's unconstitutional and call for revisions (may only do this once), with a full explanation.
- - 2. Declaring a state of war, if in full agreement with the Senate.
- - 3. Making and receiving state visits, on behalf of the Prime Minister.
- - 4. Ratification of international treaties, upon approval of the Senate.
- - 5. He must formally recognise the Prime Minister and his Cabinet, as elected by the Senate.
- - 6. Act as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and exercises his role by order of the Senate.
II. The Council of Ministers shall consist of a Prime Minister, and Ministers of the various executive departments.
- A. The Prime Minister shall be appointed by the President upon election by the Senate, and shall hold office with the confidence of the Senate.
- B. The Prime Minister shall appoint all other Ministers with the confidence of parliament, and shall have the power to dismiss them.
- C. The Prime Minister shall be head of government
III. Any person serving as a Senator shall be eligible to hold executive office.
- A. Ministers shall old office for a term not exceeding one month. One month after the previous election, the Senate shall hold elections for the members of the Council of Ministers, but neither sitting Ministers nor previous Ministers shall be barred from election.
- B. The President and executive Ministers shall maintain their privileges as Senators while holding office.
IV. The Council of Ministers shall enforce the laws ratified by the Senate.
- A. Ministers shall hold executive powers according to their portfolio as established by law.
V. If at any time the Council of Ministers loses the confidence of the Senate, they must resign immediately, holding office only until new executive officers can be elected.
Resolved: Since there is no tradition of monarchy here in our nation, it is pointless to establish one. Rather, we would consider it much more fruitful to establish the NSG State as a pluralist, democratic republic, and to that end we proposes establishing an executive that shall take into account the necessity of coalition building.
Be it enacted by the Senate of NSG, a constitutional bill to establish the executive offices of state:
I. The executive power of the NSG state shall be vested in a President and a Prime Minister
- A. The President shall be the Head of State, elected by the Senate in a two-round system, in which the top two candidates from the first round shall compete in the second round for Presidency.
- B. The President shall serve a term of two months, renewable once.
- C. The President may be removed by the Senate for official misconduct or disability by a vote of 2/3rds of the Senate.
- D. Upon the death of the President, the Senate shall elect a new president to a new 2 month term.
- E. The President shall have the following powers:
- - 1. Remand/veto a bill to the Senate if it's unconstitutional and call for revisions (may only do this once), with a full explanation.
- - 2. Declaring a state of war, if in full agreement with the Senate.
- - 3. Making and receiving state visits, on behalf of the Prime Minister.
- - 4. Ratification of international treaties, upon approval of the Senate.
- - 5. He must formally recognise the Prime Minister and his Cabinet, as elected by the Senate.
- - 6. Act as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and exercises his role by order of the Senate.
- F. The President is to appoint a Vice President, who is to take over the role of President in periods in which the President is unavailable.
- - 1. Upon the election of the President, the Senate has the right to veto the President's choice of Vice President.
- - 2. The Vice President may only assume his role if the President is unavailable or is inactive.
- - 3. The Vice President is to ascend to the role of President if the President is inactive for a long period of time.
II. The Prime Minister
- A. The Prime Minister shall be appointed by the President upon election by the Senate, and shall hold office with the confidence of the Senate.
- B. The Prime Minister shall appoint Ministers to his Cabinet, and shall have the power to dismiss them.
- C. The Prime Minister shall be Head of Government.
III. Any person serving as a Senator shall be eligible to hold executive office.
- A. A Prime Minister shall hold office for a term not exceeding one month. One month after the previous election, the Senate shall hold elections for Premiership.
- B. Executive officeholders shall maintain their privileges as Senators while holding office.
IV. The Cabinet shall enforce the laws ratified by the Senate.
- A. Ministers shall hold executive powers according to their portfolio as established by law.
V. If at any time the Prime Minister loses the confidence of the Senate, the Prime Minister and his Cabinet must resign immediately, holding office only until new executive officers can be elected.
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