American Politics: Supreme Court rejects 14th Amendment

[Corrian]

Apparently Trump has been having a small donor issue. Biden's getting more than 3X as much from smaller donors as Trump.

I wonder if a chunk of Trump supporters are even going "Yeah, we like you, but we're not paying your legal fees"

[Torisakia]

I'm banking on RFK Jr. not making it to election day for reasons I said prior. I just wanted to have more than one candidate in my pocket. Also because, curiously enough, I can't find much information on third party or independents running in this election. I'm sure it's just a bug with Google and the deep state isn't censoring information.


Yes. For many reasons that I don't want to go into. But I'm doing better. I'm now angry at things that matter (the government, the system society calls "work" that's really just slavery, etc) rather than being angry at everything for no reason.

RFK only his american royal behind him and anti-vax jackasses. West left the green party so there's your other choice.

I didn't really know what RFK's anti-vax stance even entailed. I knew he had spoken out against the COVID vaccine, but wasn't sure what his views on other vaccinations are. I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like. Rather than getting it from social media and extremely left/right wing news outlets like some people apparently insist on doing.

Apparently Trump has been having a small donor issue. Biden's getting more than 3X as much from smaller donors as Trump.

I wonder if a chunk of Trump supporters are even going "Yeah, we like you, but we're not paying your legal fees"

There was a committeeman from the Mississippi RNC that drafted a resolution to bar the RNC from paying Trump's legal fees last month, but I don't know if it ever got enough backers or not. I imagine not many of his supporters would be happy if they knew their donations were going towards helping him settle legal cases and not towards his campaign, although Trump or his supporters might spin it to where they see his legal fees as part of his campaign (similar to how Trump and his supporters view the legal cases against him as being "politically charged"). Whatever the case, I don't think it would be enough to sway voters away. But it would give them something to think about.

[Washington Resistance Army]

RFK only his american royal behind him and anti-vax jackasses. West left the green party so there's your other choice.

I didn't really know what RFK's anti-vax stance even entailed. I knew he had spoken out against the COVID vaccine, but wasn't sure what his views on other vaccinations are. I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like. Rather than getting it from social media and extremely left/right wing news outlets like some people apparently insist on doing.

He's been an anti-vaxxer for a very long time, he also believes they cause autism and all other sorts of things.

[Torisakia]

I didn't really know what RFK's anti-vax stance even entailed. I knew he had spoken out against the COVID vaccine, but wasn't sure what his views on other vaccinations are. I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like. Rather than getting it from social media and extremely left/right wing news outlets like some people apparently insist on doing.

He's been an anti-vaxxer for a very long time, he also believes they cause autism and all other sorts of things.

I'll be sure to do a bit more research on him and his positions. I don't really care about him being against the COVID vaccine (since, for all intents and purposes, COVID doesn't exist anymore) or thinking vaccines cause autism. But if he's against the DTaP or Varicella vaccines I might have to reconsider.

Actually for that matter I'm now deciding between Cornel West and Afroman. Or really just any candidate that supports the full legalization of marijuana (and maybe LSD too).

[Narland]

If Biden wins Whitmer will have to deal with Kamala Harris. Should Joe lose there might not be an election in 2028... or ever.

Amigo: I hope you are not one of those who thinks if President Trump wins in 2024, he will declare himself dictator of the USA. I have explained in details many times, he cant do so and stay in power. I have explained in details many times, if he could have done so, which he cant do so, we would all be living under dictator Trump since 2016 or at least since Jan 6.

Fox News Town Hall Interview (Sean Hannity and Donald Trump) December 6, 2023 Excerpts
Hannity (13:21):

I play it on purpose because I see what the media is doing now. I put a montage together. They want to call you a dictator. You use the words “I am your retribution.” And now, before that, you said you’ve been wronged and you used other words as well, but I want to be very, very clear on this. To be clear, do you in any way have any plans, whatsoever, if re-elected president, to abuse power, to break the law, to use the government to go after people?

Trump (13:53):

You mean like they’re using right now? In the history of our country, what’s happened to us, again, has never happened before. Over nonsense, over nothing. Made up charges. I often say: Al Capone, he was one of the greatest of all time, if you like criminals. He was a mob boss, the likes of which… Scarface, they call him and he got indicted once. I got indicted four times. I wonder what my father and mother would say looking down.

...

(17:36)
I see John Kerry all over the place talking about we have to get rid of our coal plants, and yet China is building one coal plant a week, massive coal plants, and they’re doing it just automatically. And John Kerry wants us to stop doing anything. We can’t. We have a country, we have to fire up our factories. Wind is not going to fire up our factories and it’s the most expensive energy. Even solar. I like solar from a concept standpoint, but it’s massively expensive and we can’t allow China to build a factory a week and we do nothing. They build a coal plant and they’re obvious about it. And then Biden goes to see them about global warming. The only global warming we should be thinking about and worrying about, because it could happen tomorrow, is nuclear global warming. Not global warming.

Hannity (18:33):

We almost have to go to a break. I want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this and attacking you. Under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody.

Trump (18:51):

Except for day one.

Hannity (18:53):

Except for?

Trump (18:54):

He’s going crazy. Except for day one.

Hannity (18:55):

Meaning?

Trump (18:56):

I want to close the border and I want to drill.

Hannity (18:59):

That’s not retribution.

Trump (19:05):

I’m going to be… He keeps… We love this guy. He says you’re not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no. Other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator. Okay?

Hannity (19:18):

That sounds to me like you’re going back to the policies when you were president.

Trump (19:21):

That’s exactly…

Hannity -- [Interupts Trump] (19:22):

Take a break, we’re just getting started. We’re in beautiful Davenport, Iowa... [Hannity windbags for a paragraph or two before actually going to break]

What he would do as dictator for the day -- "Close the Border and Drill Baby Drill."

What my mom would do as Queen for the Day (when that was a thing)? Go to the hairdresser for a makeover and a manicure, and have a professional crew to clean the house from top to bottom while she took a holiday to the Rockies for two weeks to hike, camp, and ride horses. Not guillotine her rebellious children who refused to clean after themselves. Amazing.

It is amazing how dangerously disingenuous and morally stupid the State collusion media is. For example, bloodbath (which every news outlet has used metaphorically in economic or election terms) in this case, regarding the economic setbacks American autoworkers will experience (and Americans in general) when China floods the US with cheap ev's if Biden is re-elected. News outlets too morally stupid to let people's words stand in context, and who feel compelled to act on the need to take out of context are too morally stupid to be entrusted with anyone's life and safety let alone report on it.

I do not think the media lies are going to work on the casual voters this time around. And of course Trump saying that there are fine people on the sides of the issue of removing statues/letting statues stand -- "and I am not talking about the Neo-nazis" besides the Russian Collusion hoax is i think one of the first Big Lies they hope the American people are too stupid to check out for themselves, as Trump has unequivocally condemned racism and white supremacy. But they keep pushing the lies as if it is go big or go home. IMO this era of news reporting is no different than the Democrat newspapers in the 1800s libeling and slandering Lincoln with lies so they could keep their slaves. This time around it looks like Democrats want to keep their abusive dictatorial administrative state from being dismantled.

[Corrian]

He's been an anti-vaxxer for a very long time, he also believes they cause autism and all other sorts of things.

I'll be sure to do a bit more research on him and his positions. I don't really care about him being against the COVID vaccine (since, for all intents and purposes, COVID doesn't exist anymore) or thinking vaccines cause autism. But if he's against the DTaP or Varicella vaccines I might have to reconsider.

Actually for that matter I'm now deciding between Cornel West and Afroman. Or really just any candidate that supports the full legalization of marijuana (and maybe LSD too).

He's kind of just been crazy in general, I'd definitely do more research on RFK. His VP choices have been anywhere from freaking Aaron Rodgers to Mike Rowe (who didn't even realize he was being interviewed for a VP spot at the time).

[Stellar Colonies]

Sacramento has approved a plan to give low-income Black and Native American families $725 a month, no strings attached (Business Insider)
- Sacramento County approved a plan to give low-income families $725 a month.
- The money is set to go to qualifying Black and Native American families.
- The basic income plan is part of a six-step strategy to reduce child poverty in the county.

Sacramento County is joining a growing list of places around the United States offering no-strings-attached payments to its lowest-income residents.

The Sacramento Board of Supervisors approved the basic-income pilot program last week. It's set to offer $725 a month to low-income Black and Native American families. The county is funding the program through a partnership with United Way.

Sacramento County has partnered with United Way for other basic-income programs in the past. About 100 families received $300 monthly from the county in its first program, which began in June 2021 and lasted through May 2023.

United Way is still tracking the results of that program, but an initial report found that three out of four participants said they were more confident they could reach their financial goals after joining the program.

Michelle Callejas, the director of child, family, and adult services for the county, spoke at the county board of supervisors meeting on Tuesday. She said the guaranteed-income program was just one piece of a six-step plan to eliminate child poverty.

Callejas said that data collected by the county showed that Black children were four times more likely to be removed from their parents by the state than white children in the county. Native Americans, she said, were two times as likely to be removed.

"Our ultimate goal is to promote self-sufficiency, family stability, and then reduce involvement with the juvenile justice system," Callejas said.

Many other counties, cities, and states around the country are also experimenting with basic-income projects to address rising poverty and housing insecurity. Participants in these programs largely say they spend most of the money they receive on basic needs such as food and paying rent.

In Baltimore, the Baltimore Young Families Success Fund gives young parents $1,000 a month. The director of policy of the CASH Campaign of Maryland, Tonaeya Moore, previously told Business Insider that surveys suggested participants mostly spent their money on the same general necessities, such as housing and food.

In Austin, officials gave $1,000 a month to low-income families from May 2022 to August 2023 to help boost housing rates. Researchers found that, on average, program participants said they spent more than half of the cash they received on housing.

Sacramento County safety officials surveyed community members to help form its strategy for the program, and the main areas where people expressed need were basics such as food, diapers, transportation, housing, affordable childcare, and accessibility services, Callejas said.

The basic-income pilot is set to start sending out payments in July 2024 and distribute the payments for 12 months.

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

Crazy decision and illegal migrants should have no legal rights, but of course I would not treat them in a bad way or harm them in any way, I would hold them for deportation and deport them to their native nation of origin or any nation: Federal Judge: Illegal Immigrants Can Carry Guns.

In a ruling that had both proponents and opponents of the Second Amendment do a curious double take, a federal judge has ruled that an illegal immigrant was wrongly banned from possessing firearms.

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman ruled on March 8 that the defendant, Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, who is residing in the United States illegally, had his Second Amendment right’s violated when prosecutors originally charged him with 18 U.S.C § 922, which bars illegal immigrants from carrying guns or ammunition.

“The noncitizen possession statute, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), violates the Second Amendment as applied to Carbajal-Flores,” Judge Coleman wrote in her ruling. “Thus, the court grants Carbajal-Flores’ motion to dismiss.”

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/secon ... d/1157731/

[Saiwana]

Sacramento is just going to waste billions of dollars on this project of giving certain people "free money" just so they don't have to work or drive inflation. Rather than using the money for more tangible things like well paved roads or fiber optic infrastructure.

If there are just 10 million beneficiaries that get 8700 for a year, it is $87 billion spent. Curse those city officials and their voters! This will only end in disaster.

[Senkaku]

I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like.

What good will that do? What do you think the outcome of this will ultimately be— what is “neutrality”?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Crazy decision and illegal migrants should have no legal rights

Literally not even the most hardline originalists believe this lol, many parts of the bill of rights have extended to immigrants, both legal and illegal, for a very long time. It's why they still get trials and such things. As long as they've committed no violent crimes and have no criminal or terrorist connections, I see no reason they shouldn't be able to buy guns here.

[The Black Forrest]

Sacramento is just going to waste billions of dollars on this project of giving certain people "free money" just so they don't have to work or drive inflation. Rather than using the money for more tangible things like well paved roads or fiber optic infrastructure.

The roads are still getting paved and fiber connections are getting common. I switched over recently and it was cheaper then my old copper connections.

[Urine Town]

Crazy decision and illegal migrants should have no legal rights

Literally not even the most hardline originalists believe this lol, many parts of the bill of rights have extended to immigrants, both legal and illegal, for a very long time. It's why they still get trials and such things. As long as they've committed no violent crimes and have no criminal or terrorist connections, I see no reason they shouldn't be able to buy guns here.

Ultra-Rare Second Amendment W

[The Black Forrest]

I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like.

What good will that do? What do you think the outcome of this will ultimately be— what is “neutrality”?

Just reporting the news as is….no spin.

Surprisingly…when it comes to simply reporting…Al Jezera and Christian Science Monitor does a decent job.

[Torisakia]

I'm attempting to limit where I get my information about candidates from to informative, neutral (or as close to neutral as possible) websites like Ballotpedia, FiveThirtyEight, and the like.

What good will that do? What do you think the outcome of this will ultimately be— what is “neutrality”?

Should I drink the Fox News/CNN kool-aid instead? Fuck me for wanting to be informed I guess.

[The Black Forrest]

I'll be sure to do a bit more research on him and his positions. I don't really care about him being against the COVID vaccine (since, for all intents and purposes, COVID doesn't exist anymore) or thinking vaccines cause autism. But if he's against the DTaP or Varicella vaccines I might have to reconsider.

Actually for that matter I'm now deciding between Cornel West and Afroman. Or really just any candidate that supports the full legalization of marijuana (and maybe LSD too).

He's kind of just been crazy in general, I'd definitely do more research on RFK. His VP choices have been anywhere from freaking Aaron Rodgers to Mike Rowe (who didn't even realize he was being interviewed for a VP spot at the time).

Check his “friends”. Seems he associated with the rapers of the time. Weinstein, Cosby, the Fox news guy…..

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

Crazy decision and illegal migrants should have no legal rights

Literally not even the most hardline originalists believe this lol, many parts of the bill of rights have extended to immigrants, both legal and illegal, for a very long time. It's why they still get trials and such things. As long as they've committed no violent crimes and have no criminal or terrorist connections, I see no reason they shouldn't be able to buy guns here.

Why should an illegal migrant not be able to buy a gun here in the USA? Because they are illegal migrants, not legal migrants, not legal foreign national residents, not legal citizens. This is my point, a legal migrant or person whatever term you call them, is a legal person in the USA and any nation. an Illegal migrant or person or whatever term you call them, is an illegal person in the USA or any nation.

Here I am forced to sound like the broken record I am: In my case and my families case we all immigrated legally to the USA the right way. We applied in Cuba, met all the legal requirements the USA has and all nations have. We passed the physical exams the USA has and all nations have. We waited our turn in Cuba for x numbers of years, under the eternal hell hole, communist socialist, dictatorship, government and revolution of Cuba, and immigrated legally to the USA, the right way and I am very proud of it and we are all very proud of it, the legal way and the right way.

Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated. It is this easy to understand and it really is this easy to understand. Even President Obama, during his last days in office, closed the borders of the USA to Cubans and blocked Cubans from entering the USA, I posted the video links of Cubans being interviewed on it from Mexico. Even Mexico deports Cubans and other illegal migrant persons, when they want too and look the other way when they want too, while complaining of illegal migrant Mexicans being deported from the USA.

Biden and Mayorkas are practicing open borders immigration policies, with illegal migrant persons.

I thought you have me on ignore, so since you quoted me, lets keep it this way and agree to strongly disagree with each other, with mutual respect. This is what we are all doing on NS and discord.

[Torisakia]

He's kind of just been crazy in general, I'd definitely do more research on RFK. His VP choices have been anywhere from freaking Aaron Rodgers to Mike Rowe (who didn't even realize he was being interviewed for a VP spot at the time).

Check his “friends”. Seems he associated with the rapers of the time. Weinstein, Cosby, the Fox news guy…..

I'm pretty certain at least 75% of politicians in this country are associated with rapists in some way, shape, or form.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

It might be an idea to just ignore GMS rather than insult him. The more attention you give him, the more he's going to post. Plus, if he is disabled then it is probably not great form to be insulting him.

[The Black Forrest]

Check his “friends”. Seems he associated with the rapers of the time. Weinstein, Cosby, the Fox news guy…..

I'm pretty certain at least 75% of politicians in this country are associated with rapists in some way, shape, or form.

How many of them had them over to their homes?

[Saiwana]

COVID does still exist, I got sick from it most likely this year, and had some bad symptoms. The only difference is that it's now non-lethal enough for tons of people to decide against vaccinating for it. It's almost become minor enough to ignore but not quite there yet. You get full body rash and other problems like partial loss of taste temporarily if it's not worse, like if you're too old.

[Senkaku]

What good will that do? What do you think the outcome of this will ultimately be— what is “neutrality”?

Should I drink the Fox News/CNN kool-aid instead? Fuck me for wanting to be informed I guess.

I think if your goal is to be informed, you’d be better served by keeping up with what various outlets of all stripes are saying and trying to relate their stances to their compositions and interests, rather than limiting yourself to a very narrow slice of highly-online Yankee centrist sources. Truth is something to be arrived at dialectically; you’re not going to be better informed by restricting yourself only to the disingenuous antipolitics ideology of pundits like Nate Silver, you’ll just be passively absorbing their framing of every issue. Presenting oneself and one’s content as “neutral” is itself an ideological act.

[Shrillland]

Onward, NSG, the Great Trek to a new thread awaits...though without the slavery, obviously.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Literally not even the most hardline originalists believe this lol, many parts of the bill of rights have extended to immigrants, both legal and illegal, for a very long time. It's why they still get trials and such things. As long as they've committed no violent crimes and have no criminal or terrorist connections, I see no reason they shouldn't be able to buy guns here.

Why should an illegal migrant not be able to buy a gun here in the USA? Because they are illegal migrants, not legal migrants, not legal foreign national residents, not legal citizens.

The 2A doesn't say citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, it's a right of the people. That is an important distinction, some amendments, such as the 26th and 27th, expressly state they only apply to citizens, whereas others such as the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, etc, apply to people at large within American borders.

I thought you have me on ignore, so since you quoted me, lets keep it this way.

Sometimes you say something so egregiously stupid it needs to be responded to, just so other people who might happen to be reading through the thread can see it for the nonsense that it is.

[The Black Forrest]

It might be an idea to just ignore GMS rather than insult him. The more attention you give him, the more he's going to post. Plus, if he is disabled then it is probably not great form to be insulting him.

I tried working with him. Worked with a boy scout how had autism. Got him his first rank. Also, have autistics on my street. One non-communative and her brother is very. They would eventually learn things….

I think much of the posting is schtick. Not going to debate it. Simply an opinion….