The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
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by Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 10:46 am
The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
by Treznor » Thu May 20, 2010 10:49 am
Dyakovo wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
by Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 10:58 am
Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.
by The Alma Mater » Thu May 20, 2010 10:59 am
Dyakovo wrote:Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
by Strani » Thu May 20, 2010 11:00 am
by The Alma Mater » Thu May 20, 2010 11:04 am
Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.
So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
by Farnhamia » Thu May 20, 2010 11:05 am
Strani wrote:I think that all religions are very similar, I think we all believe in the same God, but he takes different forms. Therefore, I don't understand religious wars. If both sides believe God is on their side, then 1 will be disappointed.
by Khyrta » Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 am
Balantania wrote:For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...
And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.
For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.
by Treznor » Thu May 20, 2010 11:10 am
Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.
So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
by Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 am
Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.
Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.
They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.
So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.
by The Alma Mater » Thu May 20, 2010 11:14 am
Treznor wrote:At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.
by Jeymz » Thu May 20, 2010 11:17 am
Khyrta wrote:Balantania wrote:For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...
And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.
For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.
Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.
by Ganicia » Thu May 20, 2010 11:18 am
by Lunas Verde » Thu May 20, 2010 11:22 am
Khyrta wrote: second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
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Eating fetuses is MURDER & CANNIBALISM. This is one reason why abortion should be banned. People will probably eat fetuses when abortion is made legal.
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by Gift-of-god » Thu May 20, 2010 11:22 am
Khyrta wrote:Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.
by Treznor » Thu May 20, 2010 11:23 am
Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.
You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.
by Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 am
Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.
You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.
I've never met Charles Manson. All I have to go by is what I've read about him and seen on television. Based on what I've read and seen, Charles Manson is a psychopathic serial murderer, convicted in court and languishing in prison without the possibility of parole.
I've never met the Christian god. All I have to by is what I've read about him and heard others say. Based on what I've read and heard, the Christian god is a psychopathic serial murderer, sitting up on some invisible and unapproachable throne dictating death and torment for all who refuse to believe in the hearsay and contradictory literature about him.
Is that pedantic enough for you?
by Grabadadon » Thu May 20, 2010 11:32 am
Balantania wrote:say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin.
Balantania wrote: God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe.
Balantania wrote: Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then?
Balantania wrote:Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ ...
Balantania wrote:Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.
Balantania wrote:Im not a perfect christian ...
by Treznor » Thu May 20, 2010 11:34 am
Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Treznor wrote:Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?
At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.
You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.
I've never met Charles Manson. All I have to go by is what I've read about him and seen on television. Based on what I've read and seen, Charles Manson is a psychopathic serial murderer, convicted in court and languishing in prison without the possibility of parole.
I've never met the Christian god. All I have to by is what I've read about him and heard others say. Based on what I've read and heard, the Christian god is a psychopathic serial murderer, sitting up on some invisible and unapproachable throne dictating death and torment for all who refuse to believe in the hearsay and contradictory literature about him.
Is that pedantic enough for you?
The information about Manson is verifiable. The information about the christian god is not. Therefore your comparison fails.
by Tokos » Thu May 20, 2010 12:01 pm
by Jeymz » Thu May 20, 2010 12:02 pm
Tokos wrote:Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then is he impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?
-Epicurus
by Tokos » Thu May 20, 2010 12:10 pm
Jeymz wrote:Love that quote. If only I had a penny for everytime i've used it against Christians
by Khyrta » Thu May 20, 2010 1:51 pm
Jeymz wrote:Khyrta wrote:Balantania wrote:For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...
And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.
For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.
Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.
Evolution is as good as confirmed by the world's scientists. the evidence for it is more than substancial.
Secondly, the big bang did not give birth to life- It gave birth to matter. to time, to space- to exsistence. Life occured in a very complicated process of extreme pressure over thosands of years and electrical charges- bringing life in the form of single celled organisms, later evolving into more complex forms. I only know the basics as it is extremely complicated. If you want proof for this, it came TODAY- american scientists created an entirely new, organic life form from scratch.
by Jeymz » Thu May 20, 2010 2:05 pm
Khyrta wrote:Jeymz wrote:Khyrta wrote:Balantania wrote:For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...
And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.
For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.
Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.
Evolution is as good as confirmed by the world's scientists. the evidence for it is more than substancial.
Secondly, the big bang did not give birth to life- It gave birth to matter. to time, to space- to exsistence. Life occured in a very complicated process of extreme pressure over thosands of years and electrical charges- bringing life in the form of single celled organisms, later evolving into more complex forms. I only know the basics as it is extremely complicated. If you want proof for this, it came TODAY- american scientists created an entirely new, organic life form from scratch.
I wasn't trying to go into great detail about it, cuz i myself don't know much about it. But i do kno wthat matter isn't living. second, I never said evolution wasn't true, all i said was that it's a theory. third, i didn't know that scientists came up with an entirely new life form. Question: Are you studying physics in school??? If so, cool.The space is a awesome thing, and my grammar rules are terrible.
by DaWoad » Thu May 20, 2010 2:16 pm
Khyrta wrote:, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living.Balantania wrote:For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...
And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.
For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.
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