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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:29 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster wrote:...no, you can't. This 'it's a choice' thing be bullshit of the highest order.


being a homosexual is just wanting to have sex with people of the same sex, right?


Being sexually attracted to them and falling in love with them - yes.

I dont know about you, but I cannot force myself to feel attracted to random persons. If you know the secret to such control you would make millions.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:30 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
being a homosexual is just wanting to have sex with people of the same sex, right?


Being sexually attracted to them and falling in love with them - yes.

I dont know about you, but I cannot force myself to feel attracted to random persons. If you know the secret to such control you would make millions.


Well, when it comes to being gay, it's just something you want to do, i guess. You don't 'fall in love' with a person of the same sex like that, i mean, there are some dudes out there i love but i don't have sex with them.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:30 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:......no.


If you don't want to have sex with people of the same sex, then you're not a homosexual, right?


Wrong. In the same way that you can be heterosexual while not wanting to have sex with people of the opposite sex.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:31 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster wrote:...no, you can't. This 'it's a choice' thing be bullshit of the highest order.


being a homosexual is just wanting to have sex with people of the same sex, right?

Homosexuality is a sexual, romantic, and emotional attraction to members of the same sex. So no it's not that.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:31 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
If you don't want to have sex with people of the same sex, then you're not a homosexual, right?


Wrong. In the same way that you can be heterosexual while not wanting to have sex with people of the opposite sex.

Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:32 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Being sexually attracted to them and falling in love with them - yes.

I dont know about you, but I cannot force myself to feel attracted to random persons. If you know the secret to such control you would make millions.


Well, when it comes to being gay, it's just something you want to do, i guess. You don't 'fall in love' with a person of the same sex like that, i mean, there are some dudes out there i love but i don't have sex with them.


If you think it's a choice: make it. Make yourself gay. Cause yourself to feel sexual attraction to someone of the same sex? Can't do it? Guess it's not a fucking choice then, is it?

Alternatively: tell me when you chose to be heterosexual. Because you absolutely, 100% did not start out that way. Children start out asexual, and everything else comes later. Tell me when you made that decision, specifically. If you can't, it's not a fucking decision.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:32 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Wrong. In the same way that you can be heterosexual while not wanting to have sex with people of the opposite sex.

Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.


Incorrect. I am asexual.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
being a homosexual is just wanting to have sex with people of the same sex, right?

Homosexuality is a sexual, romantic, and emotional attraction to members of the same sex. So no it's not that.[/quote

Romance = sex, right? If there's no sex, there's no 'romance' and in any case, you can be completely heterosexual and have emotional attachments to members of your sex.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:33 am

Salandriagado wrote:Incorrect. I am asexual.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:33 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Being sexually attracted to them and falling in love with them - yes.

I dont know about you, but I cannot force myself to feel attracted to random persons. If you know the secret to such control you would make millions.


Well, when it comes to being gay, it's just something you want to do, i guess. You don't 'fall in love' with a person of the same sex like that, i mean, there are some dudes out there i love but i don't have sex with them.

Well duh. Your straight of course you wouldn't want to do that with a dude. I work this same way in reverse, I'm gay and I wouldn't want to ever be with a woman.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:34 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.


Incorrect. I am asexual.


I think assexuality is probably something that all human beings should want to achieve in their lifetime, from a moral point of view.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:34 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:

Homosexuality is a sexual, romantic, and emotional attraction to members of the same sex. So no it's not that.


Romance = sex, right? If there's no sex, there's no 'romance' and in any case, you can be completely heterosexual and have emotional attachments to members of your sex.[/quote]

No, romance and sex absolutely aren't the same thing. I'm rather disturbed that you can't tell the difference.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:35 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:......no.


If you don't want to have sex with people of the same sex, then you're not a homosexual, right?

Homosexuality is an innate attraction to people of the same gender, heterosexuality is an innate attraction to people of the opposite gender.
While we do not currently know all the factors that effect ones sexuality we do know that it is certainly not a choice in the same way what clothes you wear is a choice.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:35 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Wrong. In the same way that you can be heterosexual while not wanting to have sex with people of the opposite sex.

Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.


That is not how biology works.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:35 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:Homosexuality is a sexual, romantic, and emotional attraction to members of the same sex. So no it's not that.


Romance = sex, right? If there's no sex, there's no 'romance' and in any case, you can be completely heterosexual and have emotional attachments to members of your sex.


No, romance and sex absolutely aren't the same thing. I'm rather disturbed that you can't tell the difference.[/quote]

No, i'm not sure what 'romance' is. All my relationships with women in that way had more to do with emotional attachment and sex than 'romance'.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:36 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Incorrect. I am asexual.


I think assexuality is probably something that all human beings should want to achieve in their lifetime, from a moral point of view.

What the actual fuck

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Postby Gages Icelandic Army » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:36 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Being sexually attracted to them and falling in love with them - yes.

I dont know about you, but I cannot force myself to feel attracted to random persons. If you know the secret to such control you would make millions.


Well,ONE: when it comes to being gay, it's just something you want to do[/b], i guess. TWO: You don't 'fall in love' with a person of the same sex like that, i mean, THREE: there are some dudes out there i love but i don't have sex with them.


ONE: I believe the phrase is... introspective illusion. Homosexuals tell you they can't choose, you say you could in their shoes, you trust yourself more. I don't think that's a wise way to go about this.
TWO: Can't prove it. And any 2 homosexuals who have promised to spend the REST OF THEIR LIVES TOGETHER would tell you different.
THREE: There are gay dudes that love each other that don't have sex. There are girls that straight dudes love that don''t have sex. What's your point?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:37 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:I think assexuality is probably something that all human beings should want to achieve in their lifetime, from a moral point of view.

That's moral weakness right there.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:37 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:

Homosexuality is a sexual, romantic, and emotional attraction to members of the same sex. So no it's not that.


Romance = sex, right? If there's no sex, there's no 'romance' and in any case, you can be completely heterosexual and have emotional attachments to members of your sex.[/quote]
No romance =/= sex. There can be romance without sex and vice versa. Yes, yes you can. But homosexuality is the presence of a sexual and romantic and emotional attraction to members of the same sex.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:37 am

Genivaria wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I think assexuality is probably something that all human beings should want to achieve in their lifetime, from a moral point of view.

What the actual fuck


I have a very high amount of respect for the asexual, they have reached a level of morality and detachment that most humans will never attain. Without the strains or distractions of 'romance' and sex. They are of a higher order, in my opinion.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:38 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:What the actual fuck


I have a very high amount of respect for the asexual, they have reached a level of morality and detachment that most humans will never attain. Without the strains or distractions of 'romance' and sex. They are of a higher order, in my opinion.


Two points:

1) Asexual =/= Aromantic.

2) This is utter and complete bollocks. I'm emotionally attached to any number of people. I just don't have any desire to stick my penis in them.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Gages Icelandic Army » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:39 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Wrong. In the same way that you can be heterosexual while not wanting to have sex with people of the opposite sex.

Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.

The desire to have sex is brought out by a stimulus. There are men who's body is sexually aroused by other men. This reaction doesn't require conscious thinking or even a quick realization of what is happening. Their body just responds that way. You can't think your way into being sexually interested. You can only expose your mind to think that will stimulate its desire for sex.

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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:39 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Romance = sex, right? If there's no sex, there's no 'romance' and in any case, you can be completely heterosexual and have emotional attachments to members of your sex.


No, romance and sex absolutely aren't the same thing. I'm rather disturbed that you can't tell the difference.


No, i'm not sure what 'romance' is. All my relationships with women in that way had more to do with emotional attachment and sex than 'romance'.[/quote]


Really? So you've never, say, felt attracted to a woman to didn't feel attracted back? Or you've never been with anyone where you think "Say, the sex thing is great, but I actually like this person as a person too, and want to do other things beside sex, while also not having sex?"
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:39 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:What the actual fuck


I have a very high amount of respect for the asexual, they have reached a level of morality and detachment that most humans will never attain. Without the strains or distractions of 'romance' and sex. They are of a higher order, in my opinion.

Your standard of 'higher' is arbitrary and makes no fucking sense.

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Postby Great Kauthar » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:39 am

Killdash wrote:the op

You don't develop sexual hormones until you hit puberty and as much as I like the idea of a heterogenous society, no, this isn't possible.
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