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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
376
37%
Donald J. Trump (Republican)
277
27%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
159
16%
Jill Stein (Green)
104
10%
Undecided
40
4%
Other
57
6%
 
Total votes : 1013

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Mister Data
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Postby Mister Data » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:54 am

Marylandonia wrote:Under Reince Thumb ~ (apologies to The Rolling Stones)

Under my thumb
The Don who once had me down
Under my thumb
The Don who once pushed me around

It's down to me
The difference in the shit he says
Down to me, the change has come,
Trump's under my thumb

Ain't it the truth yeah?

Under my thumb
His tiny hands have just had their day
Under my thumb
A turd who has just changed his ways

It's down to Reince, yes it is
The way Trump does just what he's told
Down to Reince, the change has come
Trumps under my thumb
Ah, ah, say it polite

Under my thumb
A campaign hat Donned little squirrel
Under my thumb
Trump's the sweetest, hmmm, shit in the world

It's down to me
The way he talks when he's prompted to
Down to me, the change has come,
Trump's under my thumb
Ah, take it easy knave
Yeah

It's down to me, oh yeah
The way Trump talks when he's prompted to
Down to me, the change has come,
Trump's under my thumb
Yeah, it feels polite

Under my thumb
His lies are just kept 'bout himself
Under my thumb, well I
I can still deal with someone else

It's down to me, oh that's what I said
The way Trump talks when he's prompted to
Down to me, the change has come,
Trump's under my thumb
Say, it's polite

Say that's all
Say that's all

Take it easy knave
Take it easy knave
Feels polite
Take it, take it easy knave.

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I rather like it. That reflects recent developments with Mr. Trump.
Clearly he has knuckled under to the GOP establishment by endorsing Ryan, McCain and Ayotte.
Seems that shouldn't go over too well with his anti-establishment crowd. Such a pity.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:55 am

So, any new crazy shit that Trump's don in the last few hours?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:56 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Or if the Libertarians had finally made a good decision and nominated Vermin Supreme.


OMG, that would be hilarious if it ever happened.

If Johnson doesn't work out, maybe they should have a silly candidate next time around.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:57 am

USS Trumptanic wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Libertarians leave such things to charity, but when charity has to come from libertarians... The truth of the matter is that libertarian candidates tend to be popular on the internet, but that online popularity doesn't actually translate into real political power.

That sounds like a major flaw, doesn't it?

It's probably better than the alternative: actually becoming a big enough movement to vote a libertarian president in the White House, only to discover that the whole ideology is woefully inadequate. After that realization a military coup is probably one of the better alternatives.


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Postby USS Trumptanic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:58 am

Camicon wrote:So, any new crazy shit that Trump's don in the last few hours?


Check for overnight tweet activity. If none, then maybe he's caved in to the pressure. *loud noise* Another bulkhead just went anyway.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:04 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/donald_trump_is_unfit_to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html
They managed to compile quite a long list here. All of the things Trunp has done to disqualify him all in one place.


Which only has the opposite effect for his groupies.
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Postby USS Trumptanic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:04 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
USS Trumptanic wrote:That sounds like a major flaw, doesn't it?

It's probably better than the alternative: actually becoming a big enough movement to vote a libertarian president in the White House, only to discover that the whole ideology is woefully inadequate. After that realization a military coup is probably one of the better alternatives.


Better? You don't say? Among what other alternatives?

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:09 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
USS Trumptanic wrote:That sounds like a major flaw, doesn't it?

It's probably better than the alternative: actually becoming a big enough movement to vote a libertarian president in the White House, only to discover that the whole ideology is woefully inadequate. After that realization a military coup is probably one of the better alternatives.


This isn't Turkey, we don't need a military coup to save our core ideals...come to think of it, no nation besides Turkey can really make that claim.

Anyway, even with a Libertarian President, there's still Congress to contend with, so they couldn't get that much done.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:10 am

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Postby USS Trumptanic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:12 am

Gauthier wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/donald_trump_is_unfit_to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html
They managed to compile quite a long list here. All of the things Trunp has done to disqualify him all in one place.


Which only has the opposite effect for his groupies.


Right now in the poll:
Hillary 29
Trump 2
Johnson 5
Stein 0

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:13 am

USS Trumptanic wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:It's probably better than the alternative: actually becoming a big enough movement to vote a libertarian president in the White House, only to discover that the whole ideology is woefully inadequate. After that realization a military coup is probably one of the better alternatives.

Better? You don't say? Among what other alternatives?

The Second Civil War would be worse, right?


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Postby USS Trumptanic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:14 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
USS Trumptanic wrote:Better? You don't say? Among what other alternatives?

The Second Civil War would be worse, right?

Your not getting on the lifeboat, are you?

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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:16 am

I can imagine Donald's concession going like this:

*The scene: Trump Towers. Trump walks into a somber room. Applause is heard throughout*

"Thank you, thank you! Wow, just listen to the energy in this room! Wow. I am just so thankful for all your support. Very happy, believe me. Well, we lost the electoral college, a system that gives votes to only 538 people and strips Americans of their basic right to vote. Very, very sad. I called Crooked Hillary and told her, among other things, that I concede the presidency to her. I also echoed my anger at her victory and her corruption. These people, these idiots who gave that c*nt a blank check to destroy America. Unbelievable. I'm going back to Trump Towers tomorrow to prepare to run against Crooked C*nt Hillary in 2020!"

*Applause*

"Yeah! Believe me, I announce my bid for the White House tomorrow, and you've gotta say, we're going to win big. Bigger than we ever have. I call upon Reince Priebus to move the Republican Primaries to this January, so we can lock this thing up quickly and attack Crooked Hillary and schlong her better than ever before. Believe me."

*Applause*

"These losers, I mean just look at the morons in charge of our party. Paul, I endorsed you Paul, and I thought we could win and then I would just ignore you. But no, we lost and I'm blaming you, John Kasich, John McCain, and that pile of dough Reince Priebus. And anyone who thinks I'm being too harsh, you guys are completely clueless. It's all your fault Crooked Hillary won and I am recruiting primary opponents for John Kasich and Paul Ryan. They're going to win, and win big!"

*Confused expressions, some booing*

"Get him out of here!"

*An aide walks onstage and whispers something in Trump's ear*

"I'm not giving up this stage, I haven't finished yet. I told you I need to finish. Where was I? Oh, we're going to win bigger than ever before. And you just watch, we're going to see Muslims launching terror attacks every week. The economy will tank. Crooked Hillary will take billions from the treasury. Next thing you know, women and black people are rising up. We can't afford to lose another election people. No border wall means more votes for that b*tch."

*More confused expressions*

"So in conclusion, thank you for your votes and I'll release a statement shortly. Try some steaks while you stay, just don't track mud on the carpet. Where's my wet nurse?"

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:17 am

USS Trumptanic wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Which only has the opposite effect for his groupies.


Right now in the poll:
Hillary 29
Trump 2
Johnson 5
Stein 0


I'd take that as a general election result. :lol:
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:18 am

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump told his supporters to rise up in armed rebellion at this point. ;)
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:19 am

Shrillland wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump told his supporters to rise up in armed rebellion at this point. ;)


I'm actually concerned that that might happen when he loses. Trump's ego can't handle defeat.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:23 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump told his supporters to rise up in armed rebellion at this point. ;)


I'm actually concerned that that might happen when he loses. Trump's ego can't handle defeat.


I just want his insurrection trial presided over by Gonzalo Cureil. :twisted:
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:25 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump told his supporters to rise up in armed rebellion at this point. ;)


I'm actually concerned that that might happen when he loses. Trump's ego can't handle defeat.

He'll spend the night on Twitter calling it a fix every time a state goes blue, and when it's clear he's lost he'll release a statement calling the whole election a sham, claiming Hillary rigged it. And when his supporters riot he'll probably defend them.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:26 am

USS Trumptanic wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Second Civil War would be worse, right?

Your not getting on the lifeboat, are you?

No need to, I'm not an American.


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Postby Corrian » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:29 am

Ugh, the fact what you guys are saying might be true is what's scary. With Trump, who the fuck knows.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:31 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:I'm actually concerned that that might happen when he loses. Trump's ego can't handle defeat.

He'll spend the night on Twitter calling it a fix every time a state goes blue, and when it's clear he's lost he'll release a statement calling the whole election a sham, claiming Hillary rigged it. And when his supporters riot he'll probably defend them.

Trump can't possibly admit defeat, because that would mean he's a loser. And Trump hates losers. And Trump is anything but a loser, so it is impossible for him to lose. Trump is a winner. Trump is a bi-winner. There shall be victory!


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Postby Christian Conservatism » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:32 am

Make America great again!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:35 am

Corrian wrote:Ugh, the fact what you guys are saying might be true is what's scary. With Trump, who the fuck knows.

He's already saying now that the election's been rigged and that there's going to be voter fraud because of those voter ID laws that were struck down. I'd say it's a good as guaranteed that when he loses, he'll start talking about how people, tremendous, intelligent people, have been telling him that they've seen so much fraud, terrible fraud. Believe me.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:35 am

Christian Conservatism wrote:Make America great again!

1. Already great
2. A slogan won't fix anything
3. When, in your opinion, was America great?
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Postby Yasuragi » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:39 am

I don't think an armed revolt is in the cards, as inflammatory as this election may be.

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